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    I've always looked at it from the perspective of if you are on a team that requires you to pass the ball 40+ times to win you're going to throw picks. Further, the only reason some of his INT's were soul crushing is because they were in a position to win a game because of him. And people blaming that 2007 playoff game on him has always galled me. He threw a great pass on 3rd down and Crayton stopped his route. It should have been a touchdown. I don't think many guys would have great success on essentially 4th and goal from the 23 against that front to win the game.

    All that said, it will be interesting to see how Dak does going forward. Agreed with MYO, not a better option so he's going to have to make due with fat checks and thereby less talent surrounding him thanks to the Jones'.
    This is well put...and I agree one play doesn't make the game. I was just making a point to the notorious 2010JW.

    The perfect example of that is Peyton and the Broncos vs Dallas in '13...Romo throws pick at the end...but also gave you 5tds prior
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    Originally Posted by ChknFrydMFer View Post
    This is well put...and I agree one play doesn't make the game. I was just making a point to the notorious 2010JW.

    The perfect example of that is Peyton and the Broncos vs Dallas in '13...Romo throws pick at the end...but also gave you 5tds prior
    For sure. And I agree, he did have the entire game to throw more than one TD before that. And yea that game... pain. I don't know if any of you guys listen to the Ticket but a few of them dog him hard for his broadcasting, golf, etc and it pisses me off gud. I feel like he doesn't get the respect he deserves for a few different reasons and they forget how fkn amazing he was. Was always near the top in 4th qtr comebacks and all that.
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    All of romo team failures weren’t on him. Someone mentioned that brutal crayton drop which is true. Should your starting qb be holding for a fga, no but he was put in that spot and we know the rest . That 4&1 yolo pass to dez was one of the best passes you’ll see and he caught it but oh well, I often wonder why the fuc we just didn’t run on 4&1. Point is like him or not teams like Indy, wft, nyj, etc would take him in a second. And yeah he’s the best qb in our division, not really even close . If your mad at people getting paid be mad at bums like jaylon smith who is completely useless
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    Lots of good points in the last several posts. But I don't really feel like quoting all of them. But I'll say this; I wasn't a believer in Dak initially, even after his great rookie season. When I expressed those feelings here in the forums, I took a lot of slack for it. I said that I needed to see more, and based on what I have seen so far, I'm not convinced he will be the Cowboys QB of the future. My opinion on that has changed a bit now. I think he is starting to show he has the potential to be a great QB. At this point, I do say he deserves to get paid. I know it would be a gamble, but there aren't any better options out there.

    Now, all this being said......................... Romo > Dak, IMO.
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    Originally Posted by 2010JW View Post

    Romo was actually fukcing good. he just never had the team Dak has. Those record numbers were due to the opposing defenses playing PREVENT DEFENSE lol do you even context? I know you don't watch the games due to your response. srs Also any team up by three or more scores are gonna chill. we've even seen it time and time again. Imagine saying I have an IQ of a peanut but you think Dak is Elite.. lol this is gold. If he was so Elite he would've done more to get us into the playoffs those years he didn't. If he was really elite he would throw to the players hands not behind him. Dallas fans lost af
    lol I've watched every Cowboys game for as long as I can remember... been a day 1 since I came out the womb homie. You don't think Dak is a top 5-7 QB? Dude puts up legit numbers.... name me a perfect QB that doesn't make the occasional boneheaded plays? (outside of Brady, Rodgers, Mahomes)... but yeah lets go ahead and draft some young unproven QB so he can win us that Super Bowl.... there's no way a Rookie will make boneheaded plays like Dak does right? Bet he'll hit the WRs in the sweet spot every single time. Just LOL. Record numbers are still Record numbers my guy... you're just a Dak hater and your comments prove that.
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    Originally Posted by cdjeffery View Post
    lol I've watched every Cowboys game for as long as I can remember... been a day 1 since I came out the womb homie. You don't think Dak is a top 5-7 QB? Dude puts up legit numbers.... name me a perfect QB that doesn't make the occasional boneheaded plays? (outside of Brady, Rodgers, Mahomes)... but yeah lets go ahead and draft some young unproven QB so he can win us that Super Bowl.... there's no way a Rookie will make boneheaded plays like Dak does right? Bet he'll hit the WRs in the sweet spot every single time. Just LOL. Record numbers are still Record numbers my guy... you're just a Dak hater and your comments prove that.
    hurr durr stats

    how did those stats help us win games? if Dak was so great, he'd have those stats from the beginning of the game not playing catch up due to his mistakes that have happened, yearly, every game almost. You're just a box score watcher my guy and your comments prove it. If not you'd see how many times Dak has held us back in multiple crucial games in the past, as well as how he'd have those last few hundred yards and TDs in garbage time which lead to said stats. I'm just a realist that isn't wooed by simple stats but true impact and ability to move the chains.

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    Originally Posted by 2010JW View Post
    hurr durr stats

    how did those stats help us win games? if Dak was so great, he'd have those stats from the beginning of the game not playing catch up due to his mistakes that have happened, yearly, every game almost. You're just a box score watcher my guy and your comments prove it. If not you'd see how many times Dak has held us back in multiple crucial games in the past, as well as how he'd have those last few hundred yards and TDs in garbage time which lead to said stats. I'm just a realist that isn't wooed by simple stats but true impact and ability to move the chains.

    "Dak is elite"
    "i've watched every game"
    lmao
    Dak led the most efficient offense in neutral game scripts in 2019. That's - 8/+8 either way.

    +113 point differential and went 8-8, the last team to get close to accomplishing that was the 2009 chargers who had a +117 and went 9-7.

    The Browns just went 11-5 with a -13.

    Stop being an idiot and regurgitating Facebook and Cowherd.

    It's embarrassing. If you're going to be a condescending dick, at least be correct.


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    A lot of divide here on Dak.

    I think we can all agree on two things:

    1.) Dak's ceiling is extremely high. When he's good, he's really effing good.
    2.) He's also wildly inconsistent.
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    Originally Posted by headinahole View Post
    Dak led the most efficient offense in neutral game scripts in 2019. That's - 8/+8 either way.

    +113 point differential and went 8-8, the last team to get close to accomplishing that was the 2009 chargers who had a +117 and went 9-7.

    The Browns just went 11-5 with a -13.

    Stop being an idiot and regurgitating Facebook and Cowherd.

    It's embarrassing. If you're going to be a condescending dick, at least be correct.


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    LMAO

    That's why stats are retarded as fuk as well as anyone who follows them. They don't tell the whole story. So we forgetting how stagnant the offense was, and how he failed to move the chains when we needed it.

    That's the problem nowadays. Every dude now follows stats and it's taking the beauty of the game away

    If i'm an idiot what are you?

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    Originally Posted by 2010JW View Post
    hurr durr stats

    how did those stats help us win games? if Dak was so great, he'd have those stats from the beginning of the game not playing catch up due to his mistakes that have happened, yearly, every game almost. You're just a box score watcher my guy and your comments prove it. If not you'd see how many times Dak has held us back in multiple crucial games in the past, as well as how he'd have those last few hundred yards and TDs in garbage time which lead to said stats. I'm just a realist that isn't wooed by simple stats but true impact and ability to move the chains.

    "Dak is elite"
    "i've watched every game"
    lmao
    This is ignorance at its finest lmao name a better QB than Dak that is available rn.... "crickets".... Definitely not a box score watcher 'my guy'. Dak can be inconsistent at times and still be considered Elite. Have there been games where Dak has held us back? Sure. But Dak has also been the leader in 4th Quarter comebacks out of all Qbs since 2016...but I'm sure you think he just sucks and isn't clutch. Judging off your comments, you might be the biggest Dak hater I've ever seen. Did he steal your girl or something?
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    Originally Posted by cdjeffery View Post
    This is ignorance at its finest lmao name a better QB than Dak that is available rn.... "crickets".... Definitely not a box score watcher 'my guy'. Dak can be inconsistent at times and still be considered Elite. Have there been games where Dak has held us back? Sure. But Dak has also been the leader in 4th Quarter comebacks out of all Qbs since 2016...but I'm sure you think he just sucks and isn't clutch. Judging off your comments, you might be the biggest Dak hater I've ever seen. Did he steal your girl or something?
    "Let's overpay an average QB because we have nothing better" lmao
    It's not like we are contenders either, and are a qb away. We got so many holes

    Imagine in this day and age where elite and quality lost its definition

    I don't really think I am a Dak hater. I just put out facts out there and y'all Cowboy fans gets pissed af lol

    If dak would be coming through i'd be happy. But he ain't gonna do it

    Do you guys just ignore the context of the game and what your eyes tell you, along with following what the medias and stats say? I think so. srs
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    Originally Posted by 2010JW View Post
    "Let's overpay an average QB because we have nothing better" lmao
    It's not like we are contenders either, and are a qb away. We got so many holes

    Imagine in this day and age where elite and quality lost its definition

    I don't really think I am a Dak hater. I just put out facts out there and y'all Cowboy fans gets pissed af lol

    If dak would be coming through i'd be happy. But he ain't gonna do it

    Do you guys just ignore the context of the game and what your eyes tell you, along with following what the medias and stats say? I think so. srs
    what qbs do you put ahead of dak? srs. of the 32 starters or draft picks if you feel spicy
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    Originally Posted by JUGGERNAUT1333 View Post
    A lot of divide here on Dak.

    I think we can all agree on two things:

    1.) Dak's ceiling is extremely high. When he's good, he's really effing good.
    2.) He's also wildly inconsistent.
    I'd give him one more full season. New coach, no covid restrictions.. etc

    I wonder how much this injury will slow him down, and stop him from running.
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    Originally Posted by JUGGERNAUT1333 View Post
    Romo made his share of bone head plays, but they were always amplified by Dallas always being on prime time games. All QBs have chit games and take horrible losses. Romo carried that organization during his tenure there. The front office did a horrible job building a team around him until it was too late.
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    Originally Posted by Dirk__Diggler View Post
    I'd give him one more full season. New coach, no covid restrictions.. etc

    I wonder how much this injury will slow him down, and stop him from running.
    This is the boat I'm in as well. This was a hard year to judge anything due to minimal offseason/practice and injures combined with the new staff.

    I don't think the injury will physically slow him down much. He's young and strong and should recover......mentally is a different story however.
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    Guys throw to the word elite out way too easy
    There’s 1, maybe 2 elite guys in the league
    Dak ain’t one of them
    If you want to be real.

    There's only 1 elite qb in the league, all the others have sample sizes you can highlight of bad play.


    Dak is firmly in the top 5.... Top 8 at worse. going forward and to think otherwise is distancing one's self from reality.



    Case in point, Wilson finished the year right next to Andy Dalton in EPA/CPOE composite, they're not even in the same stratosphere of QB but if you want to lean on that 8 game sample.....
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    Guys throw to the word elite out way too easy
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    Dak ain’t one of them
    This is true...Mahomes/Rodgers/Brady/Wilson

    Brady and Wilson on the fence...
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    Originally Posted by headinahole View Post
    If you want to be real.

    There's only 1 elite qb in the league, all the others have sample sizes you can highlight of bad play.


    ...
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    This is true...Mahomes/Rodgers/Brady/Wilson

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    Erin chit the bed against Tampa . Loved to see it
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    Anyone who gives up a 1st for Wentz needs their franchise auctioned off.
    Hello Colts...Trent Richardson trade pt2


    Srs I would like to see Wentz rebound though
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