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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    Infections not going down, deaths not going down.

    Despite NY deaths and new cases being half of what they were.

    I'm just going to assume it's a little more than just the flu?
    Isnt it odd that suddenly people are ONLY dying from covid now?
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    Originally Posted by dhawkeye1980 View Post
    Isnt it odd that suddenly people are ONLY dying from covid now?
    no, people are still dying from stupidity and from following the cult leader's directions to kill the virus by injecting disinfectant bleach or alcohol into our bodies.
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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    Wow, tons of new cases today, 35k and counting.
    And now it's spreading to Trump Country:

    https://thehill.com/homenews/state-w...-trump-country
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    Originally Posted by dhawkeye1980 View Post
    April 20, 2020
    USC-LA County Study: Early Results of Antibody Testing Suggest Number of COVID-19 Infections
    Far Exceeds Number of Confirmed Cases in
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    Los Angeles (April 20, 2020) - USC and the Los Angeles County Department of Public Health (Public Health) today released preliminary results from a collaborative scientific study that suggests infections from the new coronavirus are far more widespread - and the fatality rate much lower – in L.A. County than previously thought.

    The results are from the first round of an ongoing study by USC researchers and Public Health officials. They will be conducting antibody testing over time on a series of representative samples of adults to determine the scope and spread of the pandemic across the county.

    Based on results of the first round of testing, the research team estimates that approximately 4.1% of the county's adult population has antibody to the virus. Adjusting this estimate for statistical margin of error implies about 2.8% to 5.6% of the county's adult population has antibody to the virus- which translates to approximately 221,000 to 442,000 adults in the county who have had the infection. That estimate is 28 to 55 times higher than the 7,994 confirmed cases of COVID-19 reported to the county by the time of the study in early April. The number of COVID-related deaths in the county has now surpassed 600.

    "We haven't known the true extent of COVID-19 infections in our community because we have only tested people with symptoms, and the availability of tests has been limited," said lead investigator Neeraj Sood, a USC professor of public policy at USC Price School for Public Policy and senior fellow at USC Schaeffer Center for Health Policy and Economics. "The estimates also suggest that we might have to recalibrate disease prediction models and rethink public health strategies."

    The results have important implications for public health efforts to control the local epidemic.

    "These results indicate that many persons may have been unknowingly infected and at risk of transmitting the virus to others," said Dr. Barbara Ferrer, director of the L.A. County Department of Public Health. "These findings underscore the importance of expanded polymerase chain reaction (PCR) testing to diagnose those with infection so they can be isolated and quarantined, while also maintaining the broad social distancing interventions."

    The antibody test is helpful for identifying past infection, but a PCR test is required to diagnose current infection.

    "Though the results indicate a lower risk of death among those with infection than was previously thought, the number of COVID-related deaths each day continues to mount, highlighting the need for continued vigorous prevention and control efforts," said Dr. Paul Simon, chief science officer at L.A. County Department of Public Health and co-lead on the study.

    The study's results have not yet been peer reviewed by other scientists. The researchers plan to test new groups of participants every few weeks in coming months to gauge the pandemic's trajectory in the region.

    About the study

    With help from medical students from the Keck School of Medicine of USC, USC researchers and Public Health officials conducted drive-through antibody testing April 10th and 11th at six sites.
    Participants were recruited via a proprietary database that is representative of the county population. The database is maintained by LRW Group, a market research firm.

    The researchers used a rapid antibody test for the study. The FDA allows such tests for public health surveillance to gain greater clarity on actual infection rates. The test's accuracy was further assessed at a lab at Stanford University, using blood samples that were positive and negative for COVID-19.

    In addition to Sood and Simon, other authors and institutions contributing to the study include Peggy Ebner of the Keck School; Daniel Eichner of the Sports Medicine Research & Testing Laboratory; Jeffrey Reynolds of LRW Group; Eran Bendavid and Jay Bhattacharya of Stanford University School of Medicine.

    The study was supported with funding from USC Schwarzenegger Institute, USC Lusk Center, USC President's Office, Jedel Foundation, LRW Group, Soap Box Sample, and several individual donors.

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    Oh hey look at that, science...
    Citing these antibody studies before the details of the methods and antibody tests are published is naive to put it mildly. The Santa Clara study has been completely debunked, but people latched onto the headline and spread it like wildfire because it fit their narrative.

    These quick result antibody tests need to very thoroughly vetted. If off by even a small percent the prevalence will be massively inflated.

    The only study that I am aware of that used an FDA approved quick-result test is the one in NY. It’s still pending publication, but if the numbers hold, the mortality/infection = roughly 0.75%. That’s assuming every single person currently infected lives, so that number will probably end up closer to 1%, just like we’ve been saying.
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    Originally Posted by |ceman View Post
    no, people are still dying from stupidity and from following the cult leader's directions to kill the virus by injecting disinfectant bleach or alcohol into our bodies.
    You do know only democrats have done that right?
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    Originally Posted by |ceman View Post
    no, people are still dying from stupidity and from following the cult leader's directions to kill the virus by injecting disinfectant bleach or alcohol into our bodies.
    fake. That's what Pelosi said, not Trump.
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    not everyone who died from covid19 was tested for it
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    How come leftist only mention the cases, and the deaths, but not the recoveries?
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    How come leftist only mention the cases, and the deaths, but not the recoveries?
    did you see this site? https://www.bing.com/covid/local/uni...tes?vert=graph
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    Lol, bull****. And when it's 200K, what number are you going to think it is, 800?
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    First cousin's roommate died in Toronto due to suicide/accidental overdose (opiates). Covid-19 was found in his system and his death was labeled due to covid-19... 28 year old healthy male, found dead in car.

    Very sad moment for but his family is being misinformed.
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    Originally Posted by andyray View Post
    out of those 39014 deaths i seriously wonder how many would have died anyway
    all of them.
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    Citing these antibody studies before the details of the methods and antibody tests are published is naive to put it mildly. The Santa Clara study has been completely debunked, but people latched onto the headline and spread it like wildfire because it fit their narrative.

    These quick result antibody tests need to very thoroughly vetted. If off by even a small percent the prevalence will be massively inflated.

    The only study that I am aware of that used an FDA approved quick-result test is the one in NY. It’s still pending publication, but if the numbers hold, the mortality/infection = roughly 0.75%. That’s assuming every single person currently infected lives, so that number will probably end up closer to 1%, just like we’ve been saying.
    No one seemed to have a problem with doing the same with models for covid, nor future projections. Face it, the data out there is bad all around. Everyone is lying to further their own agenda.
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    all of them.
    eventually.
    Most likely. But.......feels over facts.
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    Pencil her in:

    Top Russian doctor falls out of 5th floor window during conference call to bosses complaining about lack of PPE for medics




    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...PE-medics.html
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    Pencil her in:

    Top Russian doctor falls out of 5th floor window during conference call to bosses complaining about lack of PPE for medics




    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...PE-medics.html

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    Most likely. But.......feels over facts.
    The mantra of the moron. On both "sides".
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    This thread is simply info regarding the amount of Americans becoming infected and/or dying from Corana.

    I'll update it weekly to see how things are progressing.

    Worldometer is my source. Also, I believe Worldometer might revise there numbers as more info becomes available.

    Apr. 1st: 204,966
    Total Infected- 216,622
    Daily New Cases- 26,655
    Total Dead- 6394

    April 7th:
    Total Infected- 371,824
    Daily New Cases- 31,611
    Total Deaths- 15,526

    Apr. 10th-
    Total Infected- 460,252
    Daily New Cases- 34,089
    Total Dead- 22,038

    Apr. 18:
    Total Infected- 636,301
    Daily New Cases- 29,057
    Total Deaths- 39,014

    UPDATE:
    Apr. 21:
    Total Infected- 695,770
    Daily New Cases- 25,985
    Total Deaths- 45,318

    UPDATE:
    Apr. 23:
    Total Infected- 748,724
    Daily New Cases- 31,900
    Total Deaths- 50,234

    UPDATE:
    Apr. 25:
    Total Infected- 788,233
    Daily New Cases- 35,419
    Total Deaths- 54,256

    UPDATE:
    Apr. 27:
    Total Infected- 814,571
    Daily New Cases- 23,196
    Total Deaths- 56,797

    UPDATE:
    Apr. 29
    Total Infected- 855,128
    Daily New Cases- 28,429
    Total Deaths- 61,656

    UPDATE:
    Apr. 30
    Total Infected- 878,843
    Daily New Cases- 30,820
    Total Deaths- 63,856

    End of April numbers.

    Avg daily infections- ~22K
    Avg daily deaths- 1956

    If Mays infection rates progress at the same percentage as Apr.(It won't) this would roughly be the numbers at the end of May.

    TOTAL INFECTED- 3,600,00
    TOTAL DEAD- 638,560

    MAY 1st.
    Total infected-903,174
    Daily New Cases- 36,007
    Total Deaths- 65,753

    UPDATE
    MAY 4th.
    Total Infected- 954,887
    Daily New Cases- 24,713
    Total Deaths- 69,921

    UPDATE
    MAY 7th
    Total Infected- 998,445
    Daily New Cases- 29,531
    Total Deaths- 76,928
    Is "infected" Total - Death - Recovered? The Recovered number in the US is vastly understated. I think it's only or mostly just capturing hospital discharges and missing people who were told to recuperate at home after testing positive.
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    Is "infected" Total - Death - Recovered? The Recovered number in the US is vastly understated. I think it's only or mostly just capturing hospital discharges and missing people who were told to recuperate at home after testing positive.
    I didnt add the total recovered because that moves very slowly and the total infected only includes just that. Early on I misread the total number of cases with total number of infected which I believe Ive corrected.

    Yeah, just to make it clear, I believe worlometer measures it by having the recovery offset the total amount infected, so its not a linear progression from daily infected to total infected. We could have 1K newly infected daily and the currently infected wouldn't necessary increase 30K by the end of the month.
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