🦇🦠🧪✡️ COVID-19 Hangout Thread 🔬🛸💊🦎 Episode IV: A New Hope

[GaloisTheory]

I need to see total deaths from all causes for 2020 when this is all said and done. Those numbers are terribly hard to find this year but adjusted for population growth we should have expected right around 2.9 million deaths with no covid. (2.84m in 2019)

If America has less than 3.0 million all cause deaths in 2020 there is definitely some Fukkery going on, but from what I was able to pro rate at the beginning of September (posted in this thread) America is looking to be in the range of 3.05-3.1 mill for the year.

Edit: cdc link

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/C...nnq-a75p1xKE-I

Excluding January, and up to Nov 28 ( partial data for the past 2 weeks) - 2.61m deaths in 10 months, or prorated to about 3.132m in 2020, probably a bit higher.

This checks out.

Deaths for January are out separately: ~264,000
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/p...nal-tables.htm

You can add that in for January and then subtract the 58791 deaths for the week ending on 2/1 so that you aren't double counting that last week.

264,000 + 2,616,858 - 58791 = 2,822,067 deaths from January to Nov. 28.

Add in December deaths and we will easily clear 3.1 mil deaths.

[The Prime Nip]

How is this thread 276 pages?

[LizzieTish]

Found a video of Farley1324/MEDITATE:


"There is no pandemic, and there has been no excess death in 2020. All other causes of death, including heart disease, have fallen in EXACT proportion to so-called Covid deaths, with influenza being 'miraculously' statistically eliminated: [link to pjmedia.com (secure)]

Anyone who dies that can possibly be called 'Covid', including totally fraudulently, are. This thing might literally not exist AT ALL other than totally normal circulating seasonal colds and flus.

The PCR tests are abject fraud, and everyone knows it:

The PCR "TEST" Pandemic


They are testing for nothing – pure kabuki theater, and money laundering.

Masks are a PURELY RELIGIOUS GARMENT of dehumanizing submission and terror, and for the weak-minded, a pagan talisman that they believe erects a magic force field around them.

All it is is the government media complex propagandizing the normal deaths of the elderly and infirm as a totally non-existent, pre-planned fictitious Coronavirus event.

And Folks, sodomite men, HIV+ or otherwise, have been dying of seasonal flus and respiratory viruses all along. It’s nothing new.

This explains how a 'vaccine' can miraculously be found in a matter of months completely outside of ALL historic precedent...because THERE IS NO ACTUAL VACCINE FOR ANY REAL VIRAL THREAT. It’s all kabuki theater.

The vaccine is a ruse, a means to an end: totalitarianism, and swift massive population reduction via sterilization and/or viral 'supercharging' as happened in Northern Italy in the cities of Bergamo and Brescia: Coronavirus uptake enhancement seeded into the 2019 influenza vaccine. Attempted Coronavirus vaccines have a long history of killing people.

Mandatory vaccine registration will be used to exert total economic control, eliminate cash, and control all movement. This COULD be done with a 'vaccine' consisting of nothing but saline solution. But why would Bill Gates, Soros, the NewWorldOrder and the Antichurch pass up the opportunity to ALSO kill or sterilize at exactly the same time? Why not achieve both of their goals at once?

At this point, there are three categories of players in this crime against humanity:

1. Those who know that it is a hoax. Bill Gates, Anthony Fauci, Andrew Cuomo, Richard Levine, etc. Mass murderers, up there with Hitler, Stalin and Mao.

2. Those who stupidly thought that there was a viral pandemic and actively cooperated with Group 1 in the destruction of their own economies and nations, but are now too prideful and terrified to admit what they have done, since they too are guilty of capital crimes against humanity. Thus, unable to stop, they will keep pushing and pushing, and this will NEVER END without war or supernatural intervention.

3. Those who have adopted Covidism as their religion, and are now violent extremists with homicidal and suicidal zeal, exactly like jailhouse converts to the musloid political religion. Lenin called these people 'useful idiots.' Those who survive this and are deprogrammed will carry guilt for the rest of their lives akin to the collective guilt that hangs over the German race to this day for the crimes against humanity carried out by the Nazi political religion. Many will ultimately cooperate in murder of those who do not join and submit to their religion of Covidism."

See this: https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=240767

NO significant change in social security benefits payouts. If there was a sudden spike in excess deaths, there'd be fewer old people collecting.

NO significant uptick in death benefits paid out.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CIRu4QFHsLm/

[Paul Kreul]

I need to see total deaths from all causes for 2020 when this is all said and done. Those numbers are terribly hard to find this year but adjusted for population growth we should have expected right around 2.9 million deaths with no covid. (2.84m in 2019)

If America has less than 3.0 million all cause deaths in 2020 there is definitely some Fukkery going on, but from what I was able to pro rate at the beginning of September (posted in this thread) America is looking to be in the range of 3.05-3.1 mill for the year.

Edit: cdc link

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/C...nnq-a75p1xKE-I

Excluding January, and up to Nov 28 ( partial data for the past 2 weeks) - 2.61m deaths in 10 months, or prorated to about 3.132m in 2020, probably a bit higher.

From mid-March to mid-September, U.S. total deaths have reached 1.7 million, of which 200,000, or 12% of total deaths, are COVID-19-related. Instead of looking directly at COVID-19 deaths, Briand focused on total deaths per age group and per cause of death in the U.S. and used this information to shed light on the effects of COVID-19.

After retrieving data on the CDC website, Briand compiled a graph representing percentages of total deaths per age category from early February to early September, which includes the period from before COVID-19 was detected in the U.S. to after infection rates soared.


Surprisingly, the deaths of older people stayed the same before and after COVID-19. Since COVID-19 mainly affects the elderly, experts expected an increase in the percentage of deaths in older age groups. However, this increase is not seen from the CDC data. In fact, the percentages of deaths among all age groups remain relatively the same.

“The reason we have a higher number of reported COVID-19 deaths among older individuals than younger individuals is simply because every day in the U.S. older individuals die in higher numbers than younger individuals,” Briand said.

Briand also noted that 50,000 to 70,000 deaths are seen both before and after COVID-19, indicating that this number of deaths was normal long before COVID-19 emerged. Therefore, according to Briand, not only has COVID-19 had no effect on the percentage of deaths of older people, but it has also not increased the total number of deaths.

These data analyses suggest that in contrast to most people’s assumptions, the number of deaths by COVID-19 is not alarming. In fact, it has relatively no effect on deaths in the United States.

This comes as a shock to many people. How is it that the data lie so far from our perception?

To answer that question, Briand shifted her focus to the deaths per causes ranging from 2014 to 2020. There is a sudden increase in deaths in 2020 due to COVID-19. This is no surprise because COVID-19 emerged in the U.S. in early 2020, and thus COVID-19-related deaths increased drastically afterward.

Analysis of deaths per cause in 2018 revealed that the pattern of seasonal increase in the total number of deaths is a result of the rise in deaths by all causes, with the top three being heart disease, respiratory diseases, influenza and pneumonia.

“This is true every year. Every year in the U.S. when we observe the seasonal ups and downs, we have an increase of deaths due to all causes,” Briand pointed out.

When Briand looked at the 2020 data during that seasonal period, COVID-19-related deaths exceeded deaths from heart diseases. This was highly unusual since heart disease has always prevailed as the leading cause of deaths. However, when taking a closer look at the death numbers, she noted something strange. As Briand compared the number of deaths per cause during that period in 2020 to 2018, she noticed that instead of the expected drastic increase across all causes, there was a significant decrease in deaths due to heart disease. Even more surprising, as seen in the graph below, this sudden decline in deaths is observed for all other causes.


This trend is completely contrary to the pattern observed in all previous years. Interestingly, as depicted in the table below, the total decrease in deaths by other causes almost exactly equals the increase in deaths by COVID-19. This suggests, according to Briand, that the COVID-19 death toll is misleading. Briand believes that deaths due to heart diseases, respiratory diseases, influenza and pneumonia may instead be recategorized as being due to COVID-19.

The CDC classified all deaths that are related to COVID-19 simply as COVID-19 deaths. Even patients dying from other underlying diseases but are infected with COVID-19 count as COVID-19 deaths. This is likely the main explanation as to why COVID-19 deaths drastically increased while deaths by all other diseases experienced a significant decrease.

“All of this points to no evidence that COVID-19 created any excess deaths. Total death numbers are not above normal death numbers. We found no evidence to the contrary,” Briand concluded.

[Frank Drebin]

From mid-March to mid-September, U.S. total deaths have reached 1.7 million, of which 200,000, or 12% of total deaths, are COVID-19-related. Instead of looking directly at COVID-19 deaths, Briand focused on total deaths per age group and per cause of death in the U.S. and used this information to shed light on the effects of COVID-19.

After retrieving data on the CDC website, Briand compiled a graph representing percentages of total deaths per age category from early February to early September, which includes the period from before COVID-19 was detected in the U.S. to after infection rates soared.


Surprisingly, the deaths of older people stayed the same before and after COVID-19. Since COVID-19 mainly affects the elderly, experts expected an increase in the percentage of deaths in older age groups. However, this increase is not seen from the CDC data. In fact, the percentages of deaths among all age groups remain relatively the same.

“The reason we have a higher number of reported COVID-19 deaths among older individuals than younger individuals is simply because every day in the U.S. older individuals die in higher numbers than younger individuals,” Briand said.

Briand also noted that 50,000 to 70,000 deaths are seen both before and after COVID-19, indicating that this number of deaths was normal long before COVID-19 emerged. Therefore, according to Briand, not only has COVID-19 had no effect on the percentage of deaths of older people, but it has also not increased the total number of deaths.

These data analyses suggest that in contrast to most people’s assumptions, the number of deaths by COVID-19 is not alarming. In fact, it has relatively no effect on deaths in the United States.

This comes as a shock to many people. How is it that the data lie so far from our perception?

To answer that question, Briand shifted her focus to the deaths per causes ranging from 2014 to 2020. There is a sudden increase in deaths in 2020 due to COVID-19. This is no surprise because COVID-19 emerged in the U.S. in early 2020, and thus COVID-19-related deaths increased drastically afterward.

Analysis of deaths per cause in 2018 revealed that the pattern of seasonal increase in the total number of deaths is a result of the rise in deaths by all causes, with the top three being heart disease, respiratory diseases, influenza and pneumonia.

“This is true every year. Every year in the U.S. when we observe the seasonal ups and downs, we have an increase of deaths due to all causes,” Briand pointed out.

When Briand looked at the 2020 data during that seasonal period, COVID-19-related deaths exceeded deaths from heart diseases. This was highly unusual since heart disease has always prevailed as the leading cause of deaths. However, when taking a closer look at the death numbers, she noted something strange. As Briand compared the number of deaths per cause during that period in 2020 to 2018, she noticed that instead of the expected drastic increase across all causes, there was a significant decrease in deaths due to heart disease. Even more surprising, as seen in the graph below, this sudden decline in deaths is observed for all other causes.


This trend is completely contrary to the pattern observed in all previous years. Interestingly, as depicted in the table below, the total decrease in deaths by other causes almost exactly equals the increase in deaths by COVID-19. This suggests, according to Briand, that the COVID-19 death toll is misleading. Briand believes that deaths due to heart diseases, respiratory diseases, influenza and pneumonia may instead be recategorized as being due to COVID-19.

The CDC classified all deaths that are related to COVID-19 simply as COVID-19 deaths. Even patients dying from other underlying diseases but are infected with COVID-19 count as COVID-19 deaths. This is likely the main explanation as to why COVID-19 deaths drastically increased while deaths by all other diseases experienced a significant decrease.

“All of this points to no evidence that COVID-19 created any excess deaths. Total death numbers are not above normal death numbers. We found no evidence to the contrary,” Briand concluded.

I read the linked article. It's convoluted and difficult to understand, like a lot of information surrounding covid 19.

I will not be convinced either way until I can compare all cause deaths from 2019 to 2020.

[ymer]

I read the linked article. It's convoluted and difficult to understand, like a lot of information surrounding covid 19.

I will not be convinced either way until I can compare all cause deaths from 2019 to 2020.

*I want evidence to change my mind

-heres clear evidence

*Id rather ignore this evidence

I bet my life savings that you voted for biden. Fkn idiots

[zotrx]

*I want evidence to change my mind

-heres clear evidence

*Id rather ignore this evidence

I bet my life savings that you voted for biden. Fkn idiots

The evidence is skewed - it does not take into account that we have several mandates in place that have affected the way we socialize, yet we still have the same number of deaths.

[PimpMasterC]

Change of dominant strain during dual SARS-CoV-2 infection
>>Our findings suggest that the patient was infected by two genetically distinct SARS-CoV-2 strains at the same time. One of the possible explanations is that the second infection occurred in the hospital
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....29.20238402v1

A new study says that chemical compounds from green tea, two varieties of muscadine grapes, cacao powder, and dark chocolate were able to bind to a particular enzyme, or protease, in the virus and stop it reproducing
https://archive.vn/9Xzic
https://archive.vn/g7Izq

[Farley1324]

The vaccine is a ruse, a means to an end: totalitarianism, and swift massive population reduction via sterilization and/or viral 'supercharging' as happened in Northern Italy in the cities of Bergamo and Brescia: Coronavirus uptake enhancement seeded into the 2019 influenza vaccine. Attempted Coronavirus vaccines have a long history of killing people.

hahahaahahaha

[Frank Drebin]

*I want evidence to change my mind

-heres clear evidence

*Id rather ignore this evidence

I bet my life savings that you voted for biden. Fkn idiots

There is nothing that is clear about that "evidence", and it's actually contradicted by the actual death from all cause numbers that I posted.

No one cares about your $30k life savings, but I am certain that you didn't read or understand either post in this discussion, but blindly picked the side that supports your narrative, because if you did read both you wouldn't be acting so stupid right now. "HEARS, not, here's"

Stay mad, low iq red.

[Frank Drebin]

The evidence is skewed - it does not take into account that we have several mandates in place that have affected the way we socialize, yet we still have the same number of deaths.

The hard evidence (all cause deaths to date for 2020) will show excess deaths of 200k +. We are already at 2.86m deaths ( the same amount of deaths that occurred for all of 2019) with 5 weeks remaining in 2020.


You can believe the numbers are overstated, you can believe the reactions are not in proportion to the threat, but if you believe this virus isn't real and it isn't killing some people before their time, you're an idiot, plain and simple.

Just think about how many people worldwide would have to be in on this con, and for what benefit to them?

[HMFIC_BROWSIN]

Uh oh.... World population is UP +50 people for every 1 covid death in 2020 so far.

Hopefully the rona can figure out a way to bypass the masks before it's too late and we overpopulate ourselves into oblivion.

[Farley1324]

Uh oh.... World population is UP +50 people for every 1 covid death in 2020 so far.

Hopefully the rona can figure out a way to bypass the masks before it's too late and we overpopulate ourselves into oblivion.

Look at you, pretending to be unaware of the soft kill and sterilization going into the vaccines

[HMFIC_BROWSIN]

Look at you, pretending to be unaware of the soft kill and sterilization going into the vaccines

Lmao!

[HMFIC_BROWSIN]

I've noticed the absolute rejection that this vaccine generates is the one thing that unites the paniccels and the flu bros....

Paniccels are afraid it might be dangerous, and flu bros would rather just get the damn flu lmao.

[RocknRollMuscle]

hang in there.

we're almost near the end. Don't be the idiot that catches covid or does somehting stupid right at the end!

Start focusing on all the cool stuff ur gonna do next year. Nothing, nothing, nothing gives you more benefits in life than focusing on yourself. Chase Excellence.

create plan > action > results > belief (confidence). Rinse repeat.

#tonyrobbins

[LizzieTish]

I've noticed the absolute rejection that this vaccine generates is the one thing that unites the paniccels and the flu bros....

Paniccels are afraid it might be dangerous, and flu bros would rather just get the damn flu lmao.

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/pr...-dies-suddenly
Priest who participated in trial for unethical Moderna vaccine dies suddenly
The vaccine uses the ‘aborted fetal cell line HEK-293' in the ‘fundamental design of mRNA technology, their Spike protein and in the research, development, production and testing.’


UK Govt Advisory Committee Warns Pregnant Women Not to Have New Coronavirus Vaccine
https://www.breitbart.com/europe/202...unknown-risks/

LA County Mayor Says Not Wearing A Mask Is "Act Of Domestic Terrorism"
https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/la...stic-terrorism

"If you are officially labeled a terrorist, remember, that label is permanent. You will have two choices left to you. Become the terrorist you are forced to become, or just plain die a horrific death having done nothing worse than merely not wearing a face mask in public. Remember, guys, being labeled a terrorist is the singular most top tier life destroying label since Bush Jr. started the War on Terror. As an official terrorist our Military has every Right to obliterate you however they see fit since you are now officially an Enemy Combatant."

"Vaccination cards will be issued to everyone getting Covid-19 vaccine, health officials say"
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/12/02/h..._medium=social

[MEDITATE]

donkeycells : its just a flu


me: but 200k infections yesterday , 3k dead

[Farley1324]

Speaking of numbers

According to the numbers presented it would if it were more contagious as the poster you quoted asserted



"2500 people a day"- has happened a total of 3 times, 1 of which was when NY dumped a bunch of non covid positive home deaths into the graph

How many times is that going to happen this year?

[metroins]

I am starting to see people I know have family members die of covid; three this week.

Two grandparents aged 75ish and a father early 60ish.

I feel bad for them.

[MEDITATE]

I am starting to see people I know have family members die of covid; three this week.

Two grandparents aged 75ish and a father early 60ish.

I feel bad for them.

3 of my direct relatives are b!tching daily on the after effects of c19 ..... mainy fatigue nd they keep forgetting things

[5x10]

We had 2 more deaths in my county
A couple of folks in their 80s

[Frank Drebin]

We had 2 more deaths in my county
A couple of folks in their 80s

Almost all of the deaths in my province are from folks in extended care facilities, age 70+ to 100+.

[jamesfrancis1]

From mid-March to mid-September, U.S. total deaths have reached 1.7 million, of which 200,000, or 12% of total deaths, are COVID-19-related. Instead of looking directly at COVID-19 deaths, Briand focused on total deaths per age group and per cause of death in the U.S. and used this information to shed light on the effects of COVID-19.

After retrieving data on the CDC website, Briand compiled a graph representing percentages of total deaths per age category from early February to early September, which includes the period from before COVID-19 was detected in the U.S. to after infection rates soared.


Surprisingly, the deaths of older people stayed the same before and after COVID-19. Since COVID-19 mainly affects the elderly, experts expected an increase in the percentage of deaths in older age groups. However, this increase is not seen from the CDC data. In fact, the percentages of deaths among all age groups remain relatively the same.

“The reason we have a higher number of reported COVID-19 deaths among older individuals than younger individuals is simply because every day in the U.S. older individuals die in higher numbers than younger individuals,” Briand said.

Briand also noted that 50,000 to 70,000 deaths are seen both before and after COVID-19, indicating that this number of deaths was normal long before COVID-19 emerged. Therefore, according to Briand, not only has COVID-19 had no effect on the percentage of deaths of older people, but it has also not increased the total number of deaths.

These data analyses suggest that in contrast to most people’s assumptions, the number of deaths by COVID-19 is not alarming. In fact, it has relatively no effect on deaths in the United States.

This comes as a shock to many people. How is it that the data lie so far from our perception?

To answer that question, Briand shifted her focus to the deaths per causes ranging from 2014 to 2020. There is a sudden increase in deaths in 2020 due to COVID-19. This is no surprise because COVID-19 emerged in the U.S. in early 2020, and thus COVID-19-related deaths increased drastically afterward.

Analysis of deaths per cause in 2018 revealed that the pattern of seasonal increase in the total number of deaths is a result of the rise in deaths by all causes, with the top three being heart disease, respiratory diseases, influenza and pneumonia.

“This is true every year. Every year in the U.S. when we observe the seasonal ups and downs, we have an increase of deaths due to all causes,” Briand pointed out.

When Briand looked at the 2020 data during that seasonal period, COVID-19-related deaths exceeded deaths from heart diseases. This was highly unusual since heart disease has always prevailed as the leading cause of deaths. However, when taking a closer look at the death numbers, she noted something strange. As Briand compared the number of deaths per cause during that period in 2020 to 2018, she noticed that instead of the expected drastic increase across all causes, there was a significant decrease in deaths due to heart disease. Even more surprising, as seen in the graph below, this sudden decline in deaths is observed for all other causes.


This trend is completely contrary to the pattern observed in all previous years. Interestingly, as depicted in the table below, the total decrease in deaths by other causes almost exactly equals the increase in deaths by COVID-19. This suggests, according to Briand, that the COVID-19 death toll is misleading. Briand believes that deaths due to heart diseases, respiratory diseases, influenza and pneumonia may instead be recategorized as being due to COVID-19.

The CDC classified all deaths that are related to COVID-19 simply as COVID-19 deaths. Even patients dying from other underlying diseases but are infected with COVID-19 count as COVID-19 deaths. This is likely the main explanation as to why COVID-19 deaths drastically increased while deaths by all other diseases experienced a significant decrease.

“All of this points to no evidence that COVID-19 created any excess deaths. Total death numbers are not above normal death numbers. We found no evidence to the contrary,” Briand concluded.

Excess deaths this year are over 345k, almost all due to Coronavirus. Lol at this place still being a bunch of moronic flutards.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...h-toll-us.html

[HMFIC_BROWSIN]

Excess deaths this year are over 345k, almost all due to Coronavirus. Lol at this place still being a bunch of moronic flutards.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...h-toll-us.html

The net gain to world population is +50 for every 1 covid death in 2020...

Still think this flu is statistically significant?

[Farley1324]

Pretty sure every non retard understands that the current leading cause of death in the country is "statistically significant"


BUT there is no flu that holds that distinction, maybe you're in the wrong thread mate?

[jamesfrancis1]

The net gain to world population is +50 for every 1 covid death in 2020...

Still think this flu is statistically significant?

That's a new goalpost I hadn't seen before. If a nuclear bomb were to go off that killed 350k, that would not be statistically significant because more people were born that year than died from the bomb?

[HMFIC_BROWSIN]

That's a new goalpost I hadn't seen before. If a nuclear bomb were to go off that killed 350k, that would not be statistically significant because more people were born that year than died from the bomb?

No, I'm showing how people only care about covid because it's in their peripherals.

Isn't the +50 more concerning than the -1?

Humans are the GOAT virus.

[128]

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...g-out-n1250012

[Heaney]

Excess deaths this year are over 345k, almost all due to Coronavirus. Lol at this place still being a bunch of moronic flutards.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...h-toll-us.html

I'll do my best Farley impression since he must have forgot to point out that this clearly states 'estimates'. Also per the CDC's own website there isn't an excess of 345K deaths but carry on.