🦇🦠🧪✡️ COVID-19 Hangout Thread 🔬🛸💊🦎 Episode IV: A New Hope

[Frank Drebin]

Define "open up"

It's not a binary thing

Prime Minister Stefan Lofven previously said Sweden is pursuing a “common sense” approach that will keep the country operating, while also protecting its most vulnerable.

“I feel confident in the overall strategy,” Lofven said last week. “One reason that we have chosen this strategy, and where we have supported the agencies, is that all measures have to be sustainable over time.”

READ MORE: What is herd immunity and what does it mean for COVID-19?

The country has banned gatherings of more than 50 people, closed high schools, colleges and universities, and has urged isolation for citizens over the age of 70 or for those with underlying medical conditions who may be vulnerable to COVID-19.

That means elementary schools, most restaurants and most businesses have remained open. The decision to do so has drawn criticism.

https://globalnews.ca/news/6901068/c...eden-approach/

[Dan_S]

What superior results has Sweden experienced? Their economy is doing what everybody elses is whilst simultaneously having several times higher death rates than their contemporaries. And so long as they keep doing this, there is a good chance their neighbors will open travel up between countries that aren't-Sweden which also won't do anything better for their economy

Their economy is fuked because they rely more on exports than we do here in the US. Everyone else's decisions have repercussions.

[Trapstar4.4]

The economy is going to be fcked for a long time but that's for many reasons

For one you will never have an up economy with a pandemic on the loose so everybody can forget about it . We will have to wait until a viable vaccine is in play. Try to hold on to your job is the name of the game

[waytoodeep03]

So you're suggesting we take a measured approach...like Sweden is....and deal with the inevitable deaths.

Stop trying to play both sides. We need to open up and manage this, exactly like sweden is.

You can "open UP" as much as you want to do

Until the people feel safe enough to go out the economy will never truly "open up"

Also people are quite comfy making more on unemployment than they are working a 9-5 job getting stressed the fuk out


For one here in texas a single person is making over 4k per month on unemployment alone.

That is 25 bux an hour to sit at home and watch tv. Waaayyyyy above min wage

[ymer]

You can "open UP" as much as you want to do

Until the people feel safe enough to go out the economy will never truly "open up"

Also people are quite comfy making more on unemployment than they are working a 9-5 job getting stressed the fuk out


For one here in texas a single person is making over 4k per month on unemployment alone.

That is 25 bux an hour to sit at home and watch tv. Waaayyyyy above min wage

We can't tell because we're still fkn locked down.

Idiot.

[Frank Drebin]

You can "open UP" as much as you want to do

Until the people feel safe enough to go out the economy will never truly "open up"

Also people are quite comfy making more on unemployment than they are working a 9-5 job getting stressed the fuk out


For one here in texas a single person is making over 4k per month on unemployment alone.

That is 25 bux an hour to sit at home and watch tv. Waaayyyyy above min wage

Have you been outside? People feel just fine going out. Boomers waiting in line to buy a single plant at home depot. I don't buy the people are too afraid for the economy to open up argument.

But yeah, why work when you can make 4k a month doing nothing. I cannot argue with that. Sounds like a good deal.

[Farley1324]

We can't tell because we're still fkn locked down.

Idiot.

Speak for yourself

[waytoodeep03]

We can't tell because we're still fkn locked down.

Idiot.

i live in texas. nothing is locked down

My mom lives in florida nothing is locked down


I tell you one thing. Stores are still empty. Malls are still empty. Like I said just because they say to open doesnt mean people will go participate in this open economy


idiot

[Frank Drebin]

i live in texas. nothing is locked down

My mom lives in florida nothing is locked down


I tell you one thing. Stores are still empty. Malls are still empty. Like I said just because they say to open doesnt mean people will go participate in this open economy


idiot

home improvement stores are absolutely crawling with people. What stores are you talking about?

[Trapstar4.4]

home improvement stores are absolutely crawling with people. What stores are you talking about?

Both have a point. People are def hitting home depot

I drive by the mall periodically and that sht is still fcked to hell. People are probably calculating risks.

Home depot is damn worth it since we spend more time at home. The mall..not so much

[Trapstar4.4]

Lets be honest these churches are about to spread this covid sht like peanut butter in a preschool lunchroom

Good luck errbody. If you catch it from church then take that sht like a G. No blaming, crying, wishing and sht

[Devils]

Large multi-national analysis (n=96,032) finds decreased in-hospital survival rates and increased ventricular arrhythmias when using hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine with or without macrolide treatment for COVID-19

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...180-6/fulltext

We were unable to confirm a benefit of hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine, when used alone or with a macrolide, on in-hospital outcomes for COVID-19. Each of these drug regimens was associated with decreased in-hospital survival and an increased frequency of ventricular arrhythmias when used for treatment of COVID-19.

In summary, this multinational, observational, real-world study of patients with COVID-19 requiring hospitalisation found that the use of a regimen containing hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine (with or without a macrolide) was associated with no evidence of benefit, but instead was associated with an increase in the risk of ventricular arrhythmias and a greater hazard for in-hospital death with COVID-19. These findings suggest that these drug regimens should not be used outside of clinical trials and urgent confirmation from randomised clinical trials is needed.

TL;DR; Hydroxychloroquine was associated with a 34% increase in death and a 137% increase in serious heart arrhythmias.

So it's been safe to use for malaria and other conditions for the last few decades, but suddenly it's bad now?

[5x10]

Lets be honest these churches are about to spread this covid sht like peanut butter in a preschool lunchroom

Good luck errbody. If you catch it from church then take that sht like a G. No blaming, crying, wishing and sht

Agreed

So it's been safe to use for malaria and other conditions for the last few decades, but suddenly it's bad now?

the study was for hospitalized patients, already in the thick of the virus
Hcq isn’t going to help after the virus has already built an empire in the body


Hcq has shown to stop the growth of the virus (in a lab)
Better as a preventative/ early treatment , best results so far although clinical are still underway

[Farley1324]

So it's been safe to use for malaria and other conditions for the last few decades, but suddenly it's bad now?

The full study with a sample size of almost 100,000 is right there for you to read and research.

It has an ass load of references listed as well.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...180-6/fulltext

And it's not like it's been emergen-c where you just pop it and off you go, it can have sides and using drugs for totally different diseases (malaria isn't even a virus) can, well, be different

[Devils]

Agreed
the study was for hospitalized patients, already in the thick of the virus
Hcq isn’t going to help after the virus has already built an empire in the body

Hcq has shown to stop the growth of the virus (in a lab)
Better as a preventative/ early treatment , best results so far although clinical are still underway

There was a similar study of ventilators not even helping much in those cases


https://www.ajtmh.org/content/journa.../ajtmh.20-0283
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-...id-19-patients
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...19/2950167001/

[Reliance012]

Opening churches is indefensible. Putting people’s lives at risk for superstition is the last thing we need to do. It’s one thing to make an argument for businesses and the economy, but something else entirely for mass religious gatherings.

Should weld every single church door shut China-style until a vaccine is made. 100% Srs.

[Frank Drebin]

NHL playoffs approved f*ckers

[5x10]

Opening churches is indefensible. Putting people’s lives at risk for superstition is the last thing we need to do. It’s one thing to make an argument for businesses and the economy, but something else entirely for mass religious gatherings.

Should weld every single church door shut China-style until a vaccine is made. 100% Srs.

as much as I agree with you, that just won’t work in America
Only thing we can do is educate the people and let them take their own risks

[Farley1324]

as much as I agree with you, that just won’t work in America
Only thing we can do is educate the people and let them take their own risks

Unfortunately that particular crowd is probably the least open to accepting science.

[jackamo2887]

Can any Nevada brahs aware me when Vegas will reopen? I bet they will have some deals on the strip

[Devils]

Opening churches is indefensible. Putting people’s lives at risk for superstition is the last thing we need to do. It’s one thing to make an argument for businesses and the economy, but something else entirely for mass religious gatherings.

Should weld every single church door shut China-style until a vaccine is made. 100% Srs.

how about we weld your door shut and you never have to worry about the world again.

[VTheKing]

Opening churches is indefensible. Putting people’s lives at risk for superstition is the last thing we need to do. It’s one thing to make an argument for businesses and the economy, but something else entirely for mass religious gatherings.

Should weld every single church door shut China-style until a vaccine is made. 100% Srs.

Churches and other religious gatherings around the world have been linked to superspreader events, it really is dumbfounding to tell them to go full YOLO. Might as well pack stadiums and get the cruise ships out.

[Fang2]

I'm worried since my family is in Peru. That country locked down everything early, and yet still has over 111k+ cases at a population of close to 32 million.





There really is no stopping the spread of this virus

[MEDITATE]

Opening churches is indefensible. Putting people’s lives at risk for superstition is the last thing we need to do. It’s one thing to make an argument for businesses and the economy, but something else entirely for mass religious gatherings.

Should weld every single church door shut China-style until a vaccine is made. 100% Srs.

do you think trump or anyoen else cares??? he is a money man, he wants the economy wheel to start turning again.......what he and others dont understand ,this wont happen, it might work for a week or two untill the numbers start shooting up again... we just have to sit and wait

[LukeLissen]

Opening churches is indefensible. Putting people’s lives at risk for superstition is the last thing we need to do. It’s one thing to make an argument for businesses and the economy, but something else entirely for mass religious gatherings.

Should weld every single church door shut China-style until a vaccine is made. 100% Srs.

Churches and other religious gatherings around the world have been linked to superspreader events, it really is dumbfounding to tell them to go full YOLO. Might as well pack stadiums and get the cruise ships out.

Freedom is scary! I don't know what these bastards are thinking that they should be free like that with such a scary icky virus running loose. It's better to live safely and securely in rope and chains like the commies than to have scary ass freedom where people catch viruses. Freedom is simply overrated. Fire up the FEMA camps for those who will not accept the New Normal™.

I'm worried since my family is in Peru. That country locked down everything early, and yet still has over 111k+ cases at a population of close to 32 million.


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There really is no stopping the spread of this virus

There's no stopping the spread by forced shutdowns of business. It will go around and we will catch it and either get over it or die. Life will go on regardless. In the meantime let's try to minimize the long-term damage being done by government in the midst of it.

Limited business shutdowns never had the possibility of stopping spread, only slowing it so that hospitals did not get overwhelmed with a massive and rapid spike of cases all at once. Now that we are well past that grossly over-forecasted doom scenario, arbitrary government-forced business shutdowns have no legitimate or rational purpose. All lawful businesses are essential to a country's well-being, and elitists with cushy jobs and who live in high castles should not be telling the rest of us that our jobs are not essential because they most certainly are. Maybe we should force them out of their jobs and turn them into beggars and see how they like it.

[MEDITATE]

Freedom is scary! I don't know what these bastards are thinking that they should be free like that with such a scary icky virus running loose. It's better to live safely and securely in rope and chains like the commies than to have scary ass freedom where people catch viruses. Freedom is simply overrated. Fire up the FEMA camps for those who will not accept the New Normal™.








There's no stopping the spread by forced shutdowns of business. It will go around and we will catch it and either get over it or die. Life will go on regardless. In the meantime let's try to minimize the long-term damage being done by government in the midst of it.

Limited business shutdowns never had the possibility of stopping spread, only slowing it so that hospitals did not get overwhelmed with a massive and rapid spike of cases all at once. Now that we are well past that grossly over-forecasted doom scenario, arbitrary government-forced business shutdowns have no legitimate or rational purpose. All lawful businesses are essential to a country's well-being, and elitists with cushy jobs and who live in high castles should not be telling the rest of us that our jobs are not essential because they most certainly are. Maybe we should force them out of their jobs and turn them into beggars and see how they like it.

lol @ donkeys like you , lmao..... freedom...communist...catch it or die.... hehehe.... then goto a hospital and contract the virus

you see guys... its unlearned idiots like him ^^^ why we doing worst than 3rd world countries

[ANumber1]

My models project Bozz gets permed on Monday. I've consulted with several leading broscientists and they're thinking the same thing.

[Farley1324]

Churches and other religious gatherings around the world have been linked to superspreader events, it really is dumbfounding to tell them to go full YOLO. Might as well pack stadiums and get the cruise ships out.

Singing right next to others for an extended period seems like a damn near perfect scenario for spreading this.

Difference between churches and stadiums, of course, is we do afford special privileges and protections for religion. But then some people consider sportsball to be their religion, so...lol

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[LukeLissen]

Georgia opened up April 27th, earlier than most and amid a plethora of criticism.

Now a few days short of one month later, hospitalizations are way down in Georgia since then.
https://www.11alive.com/article/news...2-accbeb2aab44