🦇🦠🧪✡️ COVID-19 Hangout Thread 🔬🛸💊🦎 Episode IV: A New Hope

[JUGGERNAUT1333]

One thing I am interested in seeing down the road is what exactly is causing some people to get absolutely rekt by this virus, and some people to not even know they have it. It's a pretty huge gap between dying and being unaware you're even sick.

Outside the obvious things like age, obesity and existing conditions.....

[TheIronAsylum]

so its all over boyoys?

[R3L3NTL3SS]

Prepare for food shortages around the world.

Doubt it.

[MEDITATE]

One thing I am interested in seeing down the road is what exactly is causing some people to get absolutely rekt by this virus, and some people to not even know they have it. It's a pretty huge gap between dying and being unaware you're even sick.

Outside the obvious things like age, obesity and existing conditions.....

genetics ,different strains,particular catalysts

[JUGGERNAUT1333]

genetics ,different strains,particular catalysts

Hopefully we get useful information at some point. I remember earlier ITT blood type was discussed as a factor. Type O being most resistant.

[MEDITATE]

Hopefully we get useful information at some point. I remember earlier ITT blood type was discussed as a factor. Type O being most resistant.

i dont think anymore information will make a difference anyomore..... interms of virus families... it has the traits of a flu.....and the aggressiveness of sars..... the only usefull info will be a breaking news that a 100% vaccine has been discovered..... other than that, everyone needs to be vigilant with self hygene ,sanitisation,make sure not to touch stuff in common areas then rubbing eyes,picking nose or flicking food inbetween their teeth.


i only feel bad for the children that will go to school, hopefully the government reasseses this dicision

[BetaAsPhuck]

This journalist used to work for the BBC, but left after she saw the corruption.

Her channel is spearheading UK citizens talking about their skepticism of the MSM and COVID 19...




Please check out this channel's videos for optimism...

https://www.youtube.com/c/AnnaBrees/videos

Edit:

This woman looks great for 38.

Dat dere Organic food, and spending time in nature...

[PimpMasterC]

not sure if the weather will have a different effect of infections and mutation.... in india , they are biting the dust cause the virus hit the slums and people there live like animals ... no sanitation ,no knowledge and no medical treatment

I´m talking about the more aggressive strain found exclusively in India a few weeks back. The virus can survive longer under certian conditions, like colder temperatures. Both on surfaces and in the air.

Doubt it.

A lot of the farm land in china is being flooded, biggest locusts swarms we have seen in a long time, global supply chains still disrupted, meat plants shutdown, rodent activity increase..... China will start buying up more food, increasing prices probably.

[fishnbrah]

Getting COVID never crosses my mind.

[R3L3NTL3SS]

A lot of the farm land in china

We make enough food here in the U.S. to keep the U.S. population going indefinitely. That's a known fact. We don't need China or ANY other country to have food here in the U.S. Sure, we import **** like honey, etc, but we have plenty enough meat, vegetables, and rice, etc grown and farmed right here on U.S. soil for our own population.

China will start buying up more food, increasing prices probably.

...we would stop deporting food long before we let mass shortages happen in the U.S.... This has already been mentioned by authorities.

[Reliance012]

One thing I am interested in seeing down the road is what exactly is causing some people to get absolutely rekt by this virus, and some people to not even know they have it. It's a pretty huge gap between dying and being unaware you're even sick.

Outside the obvious things like age, obesity and existing conditions.....

That isn’t unique to this virus. Influenza has an even higher asymptomatic ratio. Much of it has to do with initial inoculum volume. Inhaling a 5um vs a 100um aerosol particle will tremendously impact disease severity. Host genetics is also going play a factor. Pathogen strain probably not so much right now.

[katya422]

One thing I am interested in seeing down the road is what exactly is causing some people to get absolutely rekt by this virus, and some people to not even know they have it. It's a pretty huge gap between dying and being unaware you're even sick.

Outside the obvious things like age, obesity and existing conditions.....

There have been a lot of different ideas-

Type O blood: believed to be less likely to get the virus however the so-called long haulers are mostly type O

ACE 2 receptors: prepubescent children have fewer than adults, women have less than men, higher testosterone men have more than lower testosterone men

glucose regulation: diabetics do worse and I believe I've read of it triggering diabetes or at least problems with blood sugar levels

pre-existing lung issues: from COPD to mild asthma do worse; oddly tobacco smokers were doing better

immune system illnesses: body can't fight it as well

strong immune system: odd, maybe...that cytokine storm thing

high blood pressure/heart disease: personally wonder if this is maybe because of how this virus seems to attack the circulatory system/blood and if you have a lot of plaque built up you get more clotting due to narrowing

low vitamin D: think this one has been consistent

And all the rest...genetics, initial viral load, possibly where the virus initially takes hold (nose, eyes, lungs, digestive tract). Post #6908; anecdote that a guy who has good access to information and specializes in statistics doesn't see any steady pattern.

Doubt it.

There will be more hunger, even if it isn't felt much in the US. I expect that China will do what they can to feed their people and that is bound to drive up prices.

https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3986625

[R3L3NTL3SS]

There will be more hunger, even if it isn't felt much in the US. I expect that China will do what they can to feed their people and that is bound to drive up prices.

https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3986625

I don't really care what happens with the rest of the world. Not our issue.
And least of all, I REALLY couldn't give a fk less about China. They can continue eating bats, dogs, cats, roaches, and every other animal under the sun.

[Heaney]

I think this a lot.

I take my temperature about 5x a day. Its easy with the temporal thermometer, I leave it on the kitchen counter and take it as I walk by. Seeing the 98.whatever really feels good.

We only leave our home about once a month for baby doctor visits and every time the 3-4 days after I'm super fatigued, sore throat, headache and I get a cough. I realize it's anxiety, because I get the same symptoms when I'm extremely stressed at work and have to take time off. I had to sleep today for 18 of the past 24 hours due to work stress. The past two weeks I've been working nonstop.

My family and business can't afford for me to be ill, so we really take precautions, meaning not leaving the house. My wife just quit her job (not returning from maternity leave) because we don't want to trust a live in nanny to bring it home to us.

I just keep reminding myself it's almost impossible for me to get it.




Jesus that sucks.

My mom is on the lung transplant list, if she gets it she's dead. Yet she still goes grocery shopping and everything even though I have everything she needs delivered. She lives in a very rural area, so I feel at least somewhat safe for her. I'm honestly just waiting for the call telling me she got it and feeling helpless for her. I spent so much time getting her through cancer and then on this transplant list, I can't help her if she gets the virus. There's no like covid19 specialist.

Covid19 is a bad way to die.

You take your temperature 5x a day even though you go outside once a month? Strong hypochondriac and immunosuppression. Glad your mom is going about living life the way she wants and not living like a fear hermit.

[5x10]

Spoke to the coworker again today
Family friend in her late 70s or early 80s
Got it mid March, hospitalized
Recovered
Got it again a few week ago
Died in hospital

[Destor]

^^ Fukn brutal, getting it twice


There are a lot of questions around the effectiveness of a vaccine as well in terms of how much protection it could provide and how long the protection would last. I think vaccines for viruses like these basically function by providing herd immunity to stem the spread, so they would need to manufacture and deploy it quickly enough to provide that herd immunity across a big portion of the population. Slowly vaccinating chunks at a time probably won’t do much when the virus is still spreading and mutating among people who aren’t yet vaccinated.

Health authorities in Canada are already prepping us to not rely on the vaccine as a silver bullet because it very likely won’t be. A vaccine will be used in concert with other measures, like mask wearing and social distancing, to stamp down new cases.

Long story short, we’ll be dealing with this thing to some degree for a long time

[VTheKing]

Speaking of vaccines, apparently the Russian-approved rush job didn't even undergo human clinical trials. wtf

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...9-vaccine.html

Although specific reasons for his resignation were not given, in an interview with journal Nauka i Zhizn (Science and Life) shortly before he quit, Chuchalin warned: 'In the case of a drug or vaccine, we, as ethical reviewers, would like to understand, first of all, how safe it is for humans.

'Safety always comes first. How to evaluate it? The vaccines that are being created today have never been used in humans, and we cannot predict how a person will tolerate it.

[...]

Another leading scientist Vladimir Chekhonin, vice president of the Russian Academy of Sciences, claimed Russia was flouting the Nuremberg Code on human experimentation and the country's own laws in human clinical research involved in Covid-19 vaccine testing.

He expressed concern about the use of serving military personnel as recipients of the vaccine.

'We cannot conduct experiments on humans,' said the respected immunologist.

'This is a gross violation of the international Nuremberg Code. We are just making fools of ourselves with this early vaccine that can bring us a lot of trouble.'

So it seems like Putin will make guinea pigs out of his denizens...

[awwchit2]

People surprised that you can get covid more thsn once..mind blown

Like I’ve said, just lol at people thinking a vaccine is the solution to this pandemic.

However I have heard good things about convalescent serum.

But we can’t even contain Influenza with a vaccine

Enjoy the ride boyos

Two more weeks

[Skirrel]

Like I’ve said, just lol at people thinking a vaccine is the solution to this pandemic.

However I have heard good things about convalescent serum.

But we can’t even contain Influenza with a vaccine

Enjoy the ride boyos

Two more weeks

#2moreweeks #staysafe #socialjizztancing #nursetiktokcringe

maybe in the fall, they'll start doing martial law or whatever. whoever leaves their house during quarantine gets rubber bullets

[MEDITATE]

Im observing a new pattern with the infections vs mortalities..... new cases have been dropping "sorta" but mortalities have been rising......cant figure out why.....is it because the elderly started going out to mingle and the young been staying in??? I guess im missing a variable here...just cant put my finger on it..

Any ideas anyone ??

[PimpMasterC]

Im observing a new pattern with the infections vs mortalities..... new cases have been dropping "sorta" but mortalities have been rising......cant figure out why.....is it because the elderly started going out to mingle and the young been staying in??? I guess im missing a variable here...just cant put my finger on it..

Any ideas anyone ??

Maybe because the virus don´t kill you in one day. Usually take a few weeks. Also seeing more reinfections

"I had covid in april. Had all the symptoms except GI issues. It's been 4 months and I crash and get bed bound from any physical activity. A gentle walk can make me bed bound with fatigue, brain fog and muscle soreness for several days."

https://www.reddit.com/r/COVID19posi..._any_physical/

[LizzieTish]

#2moreweeks #staysafe #socialjizztancing #nursetiktokcringe

maybe in the fall, they'll start doing martial law or whatever. whoever leaves their house during quarantine gets rubber bullets

https://jbhandleyblog.com/home/2020/...ownlunacythree

I don't depend on others to protect myself or my family.

People die of viruses everyday. Do they go around blaming other people for it? It's been happening for thousands of years and will continue for thousands more.


And OBVIOUSLY the masks aren't working...

[R3L3NTL3SS]

https://jbhandleyblog.com/home/2020/...ownlunacythree

But this article goes against the entire Doomer and fearcel agenda!!

[MEDITATE]

https://jbhandleyblog.com/home/2020/...ownlunacythree

Strong refrence for donkeycells to believe in

[R3L3NTL3SS]

Strong refrence for donkeycells to believe in

You and CrackmasterC are the only donkeycells ITT.

[GaloisTheory]

Im observing a new pattern with the infections vs mortalities..... new cases have been dropping "sorta" but mortalities have been rising......cant figure out why.....is it because the elderly started going out to mingle and the young been staying in??? I guess im missing a variable here...just cant put my finger on it..

Any ideas anyone ??

Deaths lag infections by a decent amount of time. It's not until usually around a month after that you start seeing deaths go up. Anyway, old people sheltering in would introduce an additional delay. If they are staying in, you would need a large number of infections in the low risk group to get successful transmission chains going from low risk -> moderate risk -> high risk. That accumulation period would push high risk infections toward the peak and downtrend, and so their deaths wouldn't be represented until some time after the peak, even accounting for the standard delay.

[Dirtybiscuit]

Apparently, after all of the stringent safety measures he took, Farley died from choking on a cookie.

[charity4thepoor]

Apparently, after all of the stringent safety measures he took, Farley died from choking on a cookie.

He is probably travelling again!!!

[MEDITATE]

You and CrackmasterC are the only donkeycells ITT.

lol, getting emotional again i see

Deaths lag infections by a decent amount of time. It's not until usually around a month after that you start seeing deaths go up. Anyway, old people sheltering in would introduce an additional delay. If they are staying in, you would need a large number of infections in the low risk group to get successful transmission chains going from low risk -> moderate risk -> high risk. That accumulation period would push high risk infections toward the peak and downtrend, and so their deaths wouldn't be represented until some time after the peak, even accounting for the standard delay.

yeah , i was just reading an article regarding death lag wrote by neuman , pretty much sums up what you said above ...here it is if anyone wants to read it

https://www.businessinsider.com/coro...lattens-2020-4

[triception]

Im observing a new pattern with the infections vs mortalities..... new cases have been dropping "sorta" but mortalities have been rising......cant figure out why.....is it because the elderly started going out to mingle and the young been staying in??? I guess im missing a variable here...just cant put my finger on it..

Any ideas anyone ??

Like a couple other posters mentioned there's a huge time lag between catching the virus and death. Even more so now that testing is widespread since we catch infections earlier on in the overall progression.

So in the early months of the outbreak we were finding infections a couple weeks after the person had actually contracted the disease so there was a lag of about 2-3 weeks from positive test to death. Now everyone is paranoid about symptoms so they may test positive several days after catching covid, and if they die they still have several weeks of worsening illness before passing away.

You've got to look at cases and deaths together. The increase in deaths makes sense to me even though cases are going down because we were at peak cases a few weeks ago. If overall cases are truly decreasing then I'd bet that deaths will peak right about now or next week and then start to trend downward. It's all obfuscated by the way testing is carried out here though, some places are decreasing total tests while their positivity rate is still increasing, and apparently many testing centers are way behind, returning test results 2 weeks after the test was carried out. If access to tests is restricted I could see that artificially decreasing the death count potentially but then you can go check overall mortality stats from all causes in the area and compare that to previous years.

Just for further perspective, that Chinese whistleblower Dr. that was punished early on took like two months to die after he caught it. We're still learning a lot and it's taking a long time for new knowledge to be picked up on by the media and general public. Everyone is still trapped in the "two weeks" mindset when really that was faulty info from early on when we were still playing catch up trying to figure out wtf was happening.