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    People surprised that you can get covid more thsn once..mind blown
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    Originally Posted by Blasting View Post
    Got it twice?
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    thats what he said , I forgot the dates
    Wanna say it was April and just recently
    Originally Posted by MEDITATE View Post
    People surprised that you can get covid more thsn once..mind blown
    Well to be fair there has been no straight forward declaration about this. I have seen several cases in the news and some just from random people like what was posted here.

    When you try to research it (at least the last time I checked) there is always something about how maybe it is possible to get it twice, but they don't think it is happening or it is super rare, and that maybe people are having a flare up of existing virus that was still in their body.

    The one I recall here in Dallas I think the woman had it in February and then again in June?

    If this is true (you can be reinfected/no lasting immunity) then I can see that being kept under wraps to avoid panicking people. I just saw a somewhat similar post on the other board today:

    Originally Posted By Ber92fm:
    A while back I posted my boss's brother got a bad case of COVID-19, texted his goodbyes, and went on a vent. He started feeling better and got discharged from the hospital after receiving antibodies in one of the big studies being touted.

    Flash forward, he is back in the hospital on a vent and texted his goodbyes again yesterday. We'll see how this goes, but it was sadly both unexpected and surprising.
    And some theorizing about how the message given to the public is being managed:

    They knew it was infectious through the eye membranes and now Fauci is just starting to talk about goggles just before autumn and flu season.

    This is not a coincidence. this whole thing has been expectation management from day 1. Expect to see the goggle thing and small droplet airborne thing get more press as flu season gets closer because they are going to change the narrative and recommendations again to try to make the **** show we call flu season as less damaging as possible.

    But it will not work because people see the inconsistencies and the lies and nobody believes what they are told anymore. the authorities have either really screwed the pooch on this by not being truthful to avoid panic or they did it on purpose to get it to burn through the population while still having a semi plausible narrative of we did the best we could.
    Bull ****. there is so little definitive info being told to the public I can only draw 2 conclusions. Either they know a bunch they aren't telling the public about, or our entire medical research capability in this country is retarded and incompetent or corrupt. We have over a dozen vaccines in the research pipeline, but we still know very little about this virus?

    I can only conclude info is being withheld, and there is only one reason to withhold info and it isn't because it is good news. We are being kept in the dark for the sake of society and essential services.
    https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/...328/?page=2325

    ETA: Felt the need to add it could still be incompetence instead of conspiracy. But I would absolutely expect government to manage the reaction of the populace.

    ETA 2: Remembered this one; same page as linked

    That lines with my wife’s friend. She was sick in February and lingered until April. Tests negative. Doctor said she was likely covid. Lungs trashed. Gets symptoms again in July and tests positive. Tests results take 10 days. Her lungs are destroyed. She is 48 years old. Still no sense of smell.
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    Originally Posted by katya422 View Post
    Well to be fair there has been no straight forward declaration about this. I have seen several cases in the news and some just from random people like what was posted here.

    When you try to research it (at least the last time I checked) there is always something about how maybe it is possible to get it twice, but they don't think it is happening or it is super rare, and that maybe people are having a flare up of existing virus that was still in their body.

    The one I recall here in Dallas I think the woman had it in February and then again in June?

    If this is true (you can be reinfected/no lasting immunity) then I can see that being kept under wraps to avoid panicking people. I just saw a somewhat similar post on the other board today:



    And some theorizing about how the message given to the public is being managed:





    https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/...328/?page=2325

    ETA: Felt the need to add it could still be incompetence instead of conspiracy. But I would absolutely expect government to manage the reaction of the populace.

    ETA 2: Remembered this one; same page as linked

    Im on my phone now ...so cant link a few studies i read about regarding reinfections... but from what i remember...
    That when u get infected and recover.....it doesnt mean that your will not get reinfected.....it doesnt mean that our body will hsve the ability to make t-cells aka white blood cells thatll recognize and eliminate other cells infected with the virus


    Edit: ffrom the cdc website

    At this point in the pandemic, there is not enough evidence about the effectiveness of antibody-mediated immunity to guarantee the accuracy of an “immunity passport” or “risk-free certificate.” People who assume that they are immune to a second infection because they have received a positive test result may ignore public health advice. The use of such certificates may therefore increase the risks of continued transmission.
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    Plasma of the recovered shows good results as treatment of the infected
    An 80 yr old may not have the immune system of someone under 65, I’m not sure of her condition
    I’ll ask him next time we talk

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    Antibodies only last for around 3 months. So, of course you can get it again. T cells don´t offer full protection as I´ve previously said. Amazing how long it takes for people to catch on. Smart people were talking about reinfection like 5 months ago.
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    Fed officials say rush to reopen the US economy has backfired
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    fall and winter are gonna be crazy, globally.

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    Originally Posted by cromofo View Post
    fall and winter are gonna be crazy, globally.

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    Yeah, it´s gonna be fukkin kino. Prepare for food shortages around the world. Covid + flu season will get interesting, and remember that covid survives longer in cold temperatures. A few nasty mutations like the mutation in India, that is the wild card.
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    Yeah, it´s gonna be fukkin kino. Prepare for food shortages around the world. Covid + flu season will get interesting, and remember that covid survives longer in cold temperatures. A few nasty mutations like the mutation in India, that is the wild card.

    not sure if the weather will have a different effect of infections and mutation.... in india , they are biting the dust cause the virus hit the slums and people there live like animals ... no sanitation ,no knowledge and no medical treatment
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    One thing I am interested in seeing down the road is what exactly is causing some people to get absolutely rekt by this virus, and some people to not even know they have it. It's a pretty huge gap between dying and being unaware you're even sick.

    Outside the obvious things like age, obesity and existing conditions.....
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    Prepare for food shortages around the world.
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    One thing I am interested in seeing down the road is what exactly is causing some people to get absolutely rekt by this virus, and some people to not even know they have it. It's a pretty huge gap between dying and being unaware you're even sick.

    Outside the obvious things like age, obesity and existing conditions.....

    genetics ,different strains,particular catalysts
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    genetics ,different strains,particular catalysts
    Hopefully we get useful information at some point. I remember earlier ITT blood type was discussed as a factor. Type O being most resistant.
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    Originally Posted by JUGGERNAUT1333 View Post
    Hopefully we get useful information at some point. I remember earlier ITT blood type was discussed as a factor. Type O being most resistant.

    i dont think anymore information will make a difference anyomore..... interms of virus families... it has the traits of a flu.....and the aggressiveness of sars..... the only usefull info will be a breaking news that a 100% vaccine has been discovered..... other than that, everyone needs to be vigilant with self hygene ,sanitisation,make sure not to touch stuff in common areas then rubbing eyes,picking nose or flicking food inbetween their teeth.


    i only feel bad for the children that will go to school, hopefully the government reasseses this dicision
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    Originally Posted by MEDITATE View Post
    not sure if the weather will have a different effect of infections and mutation.... in india , they are biting the dust cause the virus hit the slums and people there live like animals ... no sanitation ,no knowledge and no medical treatment
    I´m talking about the more aggressive strain found exclusively in India a few weeks back. The virus can survive longer under certian conditions, like colder temperatures. Both on surfaces and in the air.


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    Doubt it.
    A lot of the farm land in china is being flooded, biggest locusts swarms we have seen in a long time, global supply chains still disrupted, meat plants shutdown, rodent activity increase..... China will start buying up more food, increasing prices probably.
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    A lot of the farm land in china
    We make enough food here in the U.S. to keep the U.S. population going indefinitely. That's a known fact. We don't need China or ANY other country to have food here in the U.S. Sure, we import **** like honey, etc, but we have plenty enough meat, vegetables, and rice, etc grown and farmed right here on U.S. soil for our own population.

    Originally Posted by PimpMasterC View Post
    China will start buying up more food, increasing prices probably.
    ...we would stop deporting food long before we let mass shortages happen in the U.S.... This has already been mentioned by authorities.
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    One thing I am interested in seeing down the road is what exactly is causing some people to get absolutely rekt by this virus, and some people to not even know they have it. It's a pretty huge gap between dying and being unaware you're even sick.

    Outside the obvious things like age, obesity and existing conditions.....
    That isn’t unique to this virus. Influenza has an even higher asymptomatic ratio. Much of it has to do with initial inoculum volume. Inhaling a 5um vs a 100um aerosol particle will tremendously impact disease severity. Host genetics is also going play a factor. Pathogen strain probably not so much right now.
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    Originally Posted by JUGGERNAUT1333 View Post
    One thing I am interested in seeing down the road is what exactly is causing some people to get absolutely rekt by this virus, and some people to not even know they have it. It's a pretty huge gap between dying and being unaware you're even sick.

    Outside the obvious things like age, obesity and existing conditions.....
    There have been a lot of different ideas-

    Type O blood: believed to be less likely to get the virus however the so-called long haulers are mostly type O

    ACE 2 receptors: prepubescent children have fewer than adults, women have less than men, higher testosterone men have more than lower testosterone men

    glucose regulation: diabetics do worse and I believe I've read of it triggering diabetes or at least problems with blood sugar levels

    pre-existing lung issues: from COPD to mild asthma do worse; oddly tobacco smokers were doing better

    immune system illnesses: body can't fight it as well

    strong immune system: odd, maybe...that cytokine storm thing

    high blood pressure/heart disease: personally wonder if this is maybe because of how this virus seems to attack the circulatory system/blood and if you have a lot of plaque built up you get more clotting due to narrowing

    low vitamin D: think this one has been consistent

    And all the rest...genetics, initial viral load, possibly where the virus initially takes hold (nose, eyes, lungs, digestive tract). Post #6908; anecdote that a guy who has good access to information and specializes in statistics doesn't see any steady pattern.

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    Doubt it.
    There will be more hunger, even if it isn't felt much in the US. I expect that China will do what they can to feed their people and that is bound to drive up prices.

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    Originally Posted by katya422 View Post
    There will be more hunger, even if it isn't felt much in the US. I expect that China will do what they can to feed their people and that is bound to drive up prices.

    https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3986625
    I don't really care what happens with the rest of the world. Not our issue.
    And least of all, I REALLY couldn't give a fk less about China. They can continue eating bats, dogs, cats, roaches, and every other animal under the sun.
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    Originally Posted by metroins View Post
    I think this a lot.

    I take my temperature about 5x a day. Its easy with the temporal thermometer, I leave it on the kitchen counter and take it as I walk by. Seeing the 98.whatever really feels good.

    We only leave our home about once a month for baby doctor visits and every time the 3-4 days after I'm super fatigued, sore throat, headache and I get a cough. I realize it's anxiety, because I get the same symptoms when I'm extremely stressed at work and have to take time off. I had to sleep today for 18 of the past 24 hours due to work stress. The past two weeks I've been working nonstop.

    My family and business can't afford for me to be ill, so we really take precautions, meaning not leaving the house. My wife just quit her job (not returning from maternity leave) because we don't want to trust a live in nanny to bring it home to us.

    I just keep reminding myself it's almost impossible for me to get it.




    Jesus that sucks.

    My mom is on the lung transplant list, if she gets it she's dead. Yet she still goes grocery shopping and everything even though I have everything she needs delivered. She lives in a very rural area, so I feel at least somewhat safe for her. I'm honestly just waiting for the call telling me she got it and feeling helpless for her. I spent so much time getting her through cancer and then on this transplant list, I can't help her if she gets the virus. There's no like covid19 specialist.

    Covid19 is a bad way to die.
    You take your temperature 5x a day even though you go outside once a month? Strong hypochondriac and immunosuppression. Glad your mom is going about living life the way she wants and not living like a fear hermit.
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    There are a lot of questions around the effectiveness of a vaccine as well in terms of how much protection it could provide and how long the protection would last. I think vaccines for viruses like these basically function by providing herd immunity to stem the spread, so they would need to manufacture and deploy it quickly enough to provide that herd immunity across a big portion of the population. Slowly vaccinating chunks at a time probably won’t do much when the virus is still spreading and mutating among people who aren’t yet vaccinated.

    Health authorities in Canada are already prepping us to not rely on the vaccine as a silver bullet because it very likely won’t be. A vaccine will be used in concert with other measures, like mask wearing and social distancing, to stamp down new cases.

    Long story short, we’ll be dealing with this thing to some degree for a long time
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    Speaking of vaccines, apparently the Russian-approved rush job didn't even undergo human clinical trials. wtf

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    Although specific reasons for his resignation were not given, in an interview with journal Nauka i Zhizn (Science and Life) shortly before he quit, Chuchalin warned: 'In the case of a drug or vaccine, we, as ethical reviewers, would like to understand, first of all, how safe it is for humans.

    'Safety always comes first. How to evaluate it? The vaccines that are being created today have never been used in humans, and we cannot predict how a person will tolerate it.

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    Another leading scientist Vladimir Chekhonin, vice president of the Russian Academy of Sciences, claimed Russia was flouting the Nuremberg Code on human experimentation and the country's own laws in human clinical research involved in Covid-19 vaccine testing.

    He expressed concern about the use of serving military personnel as recipients of the vaccine.

    'We cannot conduct experiments on humans,' said the respected immunologist.

    'This is a gross violation of the international Nuremberg Code. We are just making fools of ourselves with this early vaccine that can bring us a lot of trouble.'
    So it seems like Putin will make guinea pigs out of his denizens...
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    People surprised that you can get covid more thsn once..mind blown
    Like I’ve said, just lol at people thinking a vaccine is the solution to this pandemic.

    However I have heard good things about convalescent serum.

    But we can’t even contain Influenza with a vaccine

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    Originally Posted by awwchit2 View Post
    Like I’ve said, just lol at people thinking a vaccine is the solution to this pandemic.

    However I have heard good things about convalescent serum.

    But we can’t even contain Influenza with a vaccine

    Enjoy the ride boyos

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    Im observing a new pattern with the infections vs mortalities..... new cases have been dropping "sorta" but mortalities have been rising......cant figure out why.....is it because the elderly started going out to mingle and the young been staying in??? I guess im missing a variable here...just cant put my finger on it..

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    Originally Posted by MEDITATE View Post
    Im observing a new pattern with the infections vs mortalities..... new cases have been dropping "sorta" but mortalities have been rising......cant figure out why.....is it because the elderly started going out to mingle and the young been staying in??? I guess im missing a variable here...just cant put my finger on it..

    Any ideas anyone ??
    Maybe because the virus don´t kill you in one day. Usually take a few weeks. Also seeing more reinfections

    "I had covid in april. Had all the symptoms except GI issues. It's been 4 months and I crash and get bed bound from any physical activity. A gentle walk can make me bed bound with fatigue, brain fog and muscle soreness for several days."

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