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    Originally Posted by dabbmw2002 View Post
    about 10% have long term issues, and the symptoms are widespread but there are few main ones that everyone seems to have. I do wonder if the strand of Covid back in Mar-Jun was stronger than the one now. Seems these athletes get over it pretty quickly without issues.

    the strain is still the same, but people think the potency has gone weaker due to lesser deaths. Now deaths arent that much because the medical body,the people, the elderaly are all better equipped on handeling covid.

    tbh for me , im starting to think on the long long term effects of this virus.... like what will happen to the body , to the mental,psych on the long run to people who got effected
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    the strain is still the same, but people think the potency has gone weaker due to lesser deaths. Now deaths arent that much because the medical body,the people, the elderaly are all better equipped on handeling covid.

    tbh for me , im starting to think on the long long term effects of this virus.... like what will happen to the body , to the mental,psych on the long run to people who got effected
    I've been experiencing it and it's no joke, but I can also attest to the fact the these lockdowns compound the issue. I'll feel better when I have more to do. Sitting around thinking about every ache and pain just makes it worse.
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    Originally Posted by dabbmw2002 View Post
    I've been experiencing it and it's no joke, but I can also attest to the fact the these lockdowns compound the issue. I'll feel better when I have more to do. Sitting around thinking about every ache and pain just makes it worse.
    I feel you...but having someone who is c19 positive amd roaming around the healthy is something i dont want to have
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    I feel you...but having someone who is c19 positive amd roaming around the healthy is something i dont want to have
    I'm referring to post covid effects, not acute covid.
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    Originally Posted by dabbmw2002 View Post
    I'm referring to post covid effects, not acute covid.

    what if you are got cured and contracted the virus again and your 2nd round was you being asymptomatic ?
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    Originally Posted by fishnbrah View Post
    does regular flu still exist?

    why didnt we used to test people for the flu when they werent sick like they do covid

    why arent total deaths higher?
    Nothing else exists.

    Covid is the only disease in America now. Gotta pump those numbers.... Stop paying attention to the lack of heart disease death this year roflmfao.
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    Originally Posted by 5x10 View Post
    theres been doctors from multiple nations saying this thing isn’t as deadly as once before
    That doesn’t make sense to me
    A deadly virus is always going to become less deadly over time, because the deadliest strains will not be able to spread as the hosts die leaving the strain without a way to replicate and spread.

    Therefore the most spread strains will be those that do not incapacitate the hosts and continue to have them move freely asymptomatic.

    The virus is a living organism, who's sole purpose is to reproduce and spread. It does NOT want to kill the host, because if it does, IT DIES TOO.
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    Originally Posted by MEDITATE View Post
    what if you are got cured and contracted the virus again and your 2nd round was you being asymptomatic ?
    what do you mean what if? Dont run around breathing in anyones face and you're good.

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    Originally Posted by MEDITATE View Post
    The after effects of the c19 virus are mind blowing....amazing how you can still find tons of donkeycells saying this virus is nothing
    Stop with this strawman. Almost nobody is saying its nothing, but its also not worth the response we're seeing either. I'm more likely to die from getting in my car and I do that everyday.

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    Originally Posted by HockeyBacon18 View Post
    A deadly virus is always going to become less deadly over time, because the deadliest strains will not be able to spread as the hosts die leaving the strain without a way to replicate and spread.

    Therefore the most spread strains will be those that do not incapacitate the hosts and continue to have them move freely asymptomatic.

    The virus is a living organism, who's sole purpose is to reproduce and spread. It does NOT want to kill the host, because if it does, IT DIES TOO.
    Highly virulent pathogens with long evolutionary histories with their host are not hard to find. It is true that most pathogens will evolve to be more benign after entering a novel host species, but they do not continually evolve to mildness or to be asymptomatic. Why? There is a trade off. More harmful variants (strains) tend to make more copies of themselves per unit time inside the host. They therefore incur a transmission benefit through higher environmental shedding of infectious propagules. This means that more virulent pathogens are those that tend to be less dependent on host mobility, such a vector-borne pathogens or those highly durable in the environment (TB, Smallpox). I do agree that based on the viability of SARS-COV-2 in the external environment, it will evolve to be much more mild than it is now.
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    Originally Posted by 5x10 View Post
    theres been doctors from multiple nations saying this thing isn’t as deadly as once before
    That doesn’t make sense to me

    We've discussed this multiple times previously, in this thread.

    That is exactly what we expect to happen

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    what's the purpose of important medical things like 1 on 1 mental health and doctor appointments being distanced via phone or zOoM. when millions of people working essential jobs, or not, still have to go to work in-person taking public transportation and working in buildings of 20-100 people doing physical jobs and heavily breathing close quarters.

    like what is the difference between a nurse wearing a surgical mask in a hospital taking care of several patients an hour... while GP's can't do the same for a small number of patients a day.

    i know 2 people who died from drug overdose and 1 person who committed suicide in the summer. lack of mental health support definitely contributed. i can't deny that i also have been severely suicidal as well srs. phone or zoom does jack **** for me
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    Originally Posted by 2RDEYE View Post
    what's the purpose of important medical things like 1 on 1 mental health and doctor appointments being distanced via phone or zOoM. when millions of people working essential jobs, or not, still have to go to work in-person taking public transportation and working in buildings of 20-100 people doing physical jobs and heavily breathing close quarters.

    like what is the difference between a nurse wearing a surgical mask in a hospital taking care of several patients an hour... while GP's can't do the same for a small number of patients a day.

    i know 2 people who died from drug overdose and 1 person who committed suicide in the summer. lack of mental health support definitely contributed
    I'd say that a nurse caring for people who have to be hospitalized is how people who have to be hospitalized get taken care of, but an otherwise healthy person who needs to get their blood pressure or cholesterol Rx updated doesn't have quite the same level of importance on face-to-face physically in person

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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    I'd say that a nurse caring for people who have to be hospitalized is how people who have to be hospitalized get taken care of, but an otherwise healthy person who needs to get their blood pressure or cholesterol Rx updated doesn't have quite the same level of importance on face-to-face physically in person
    makes no sense. im just super stressed out at the lack of mental health support. even my counselor i was seeing stopped working. i took up the bottle of whiskey again, started with 2 shots a week, 2 shots a day, i'm on like 6-8 shots a day now lol. also tried cutting twice. suicidal thoughts are strong as ****. some nights i just hold a knife to my neck all night. idk why they do this. at least leave the mental health support normal or wear masks during the appointments. ****ing sinking here m8

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    makes no sense. im just super stressed out at the lack of mental health support. even my counselor i was seeing stopped working. i took up the bottle of whiskey again, started with 2 shots a week, 2 shots a day, i'm on like 6-8 shots a day now lol. also tried cutting twice. suicidal thoughts are strong as ****. some nights i just hold a knife to my neck all night. idk why they do this. at least leave the mental health support normal or wear masks during the appointments. ****ing sinking here m8

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    christ man, you gotta any family or friends you can talk to?
    nope, not a single friend lol except this ol' knife here brotha, and whiskey is my wife. i was in a mental health program to be around people who also deal with suicidal thoughts but they severely limited it so i didn't make the cut. everything else is online on zoOM, which doesn't work for me cause on my smartphone it's ****, freezes way too much. talk to myself nowadays i go ehh right gotta do that right oh forgot ah oh
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    Originally Posted by 2RDEYE View Post
    nope, not a single friend lol except this ol' knife here brotha, and whiskey is my wife. i was in a mental health program to be around people who also deal with suicidal thoughts but they severely limited it so i didn't make the cut. everything else is online on zoOM, which doesn't work for me cause on my smartphone it's ****, freezes way too much. talk to myself nowadays i go ehh right gotta do that right oh forgot ah oh
    right now everything is pure chit. Just remember that at some point things will change and what you are feeling right now isn't forever. Just gotta hold on.
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    about 10% have long term issues, and the symptoms are widespread but there are few main ones that everyone seems to have. I do wonder if the strand of Covid back in Mar-Jun was stronger than the one now. Seems these athletes get over it pretty quickly without issues.
    I was just catching myself up and read that the lungs are presenting differently than before in imaging (moving away from "ground glass opacity").

    Another poster asked about seeing a trend of more newly diagnosed people vomiting early in their illness and a third asked about the symptoms starting w/sore throat.

    That second bit was of interest to me because I just found out this morning that I was exposed the Thursday & Saturday prior to Thanksgiving. It was an older man who is kind of like an uncle (friend of my father's) who drove my daughter and I to do some things. He actually got tested that Sunday, but he wasn't able to get access to his results until yesterday. He had a sore throat to start and says now vomiting, diarrhea, and fever.

    Originally Posted by 2RDEYE View Post
    nope, not a single friend lol except this ol' knife here brotha, and whiskey is my wife. i was in a mental health program to be around people who also deal with suicidal thoughts but they severely limited it so i didn't make the cut. everything else is online on zoOM, which doesn't work for me cause on my smartphone it's ****, freezes way too much. talk to myself nowadays i go ehh right gotta do that right oh forgot ah oh
    Srs if it is getting that bad you can go to an ER and potentially go in-patient. Maybe check around about getting better internet access via a different device or a different service. Do you have internet at home other than your phone? Maybe you could get access to wifi someplace if the phone is all you have. You might also ask if your therapist can just make a normal phone call to you if your phone service is okay and your data is the problem.

    I know this chit is getting really old. And our lockdowns/weather in TX haven't been as bad as some places.
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    Originally Posted by BigBallsMcgee View Post
    what do you mean what if? Dont run around breathing in anyones face and you're good.
    You dont have the slightest idea on the mechanics of this virus and how it works ..do you?

    Originally Posted by BigBallsMcgee View Post
    Stop with this strawman. Almost nobody is saying its nothing, but its also not worth the response we're seeing either. I'm more likely to die from getting in my car and I do that everyday.
    Ya ..now..its too late to do anything..because "offence intended" idiots like you kept thinking the way you think now.....its because of those idiots the world is were the world is today....r i definitley agree with you...theres no point on following any counter measure anymore..its too late.


    On a side note....iam against conspiracy theories...but these days im going full tin foil retarded on governments,this virus and the vaccine...guess we will know in the next 20 to 30 years.....this virus wouldve also been great if its side effects included infertility...last thing we need is more people on this planet.....speciallu from asia..china/india and africa
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    Originally Posted by katya422 View Post
    Srs if it is getting that bad you can go to an ER and potentially go in-patient. Maybe check around about getting better internet access via a different device or a different service. Do you have internet at home other than your phone? Maybe you could get access to wifi someplace if the phone is all you have. You might also ask if your therapist can just make a normal phone call to you if your phone service is okay and your data is the problem.

    I know this chit is getting really old. And our lockdowns/weather in TX haven't been as bad as some places.
    ER is bull****. i once went to the ER and said i'm thinking about suicide. but then I was denied help because I had a concussion, apparently they don't help people who have had concussions

    i wonder what the non-related covid deaths are at. like how much suicide or drug overdose increased vs covid deaths. or how much more people now have some serious mental illness due to this whole bull**** of shutting down businesses and online crap. and is it worth it? i don't think they care about the consequences.

    was looking at my vietnamese friends in vietnam's pictures, and they're living life normally no masks, I think same in japan for the most part. for us it's like major ****ed up
    There is only one Hell: the one we live in now.

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    Originally Posted by MEDITATE View Post
    You dont have the slightest idea on the mechanics of this virus and how it works ..do you?
    Neither does the CDC, as they've changed their mind many times on basic things like masks, quarantine length, how it spreads etc.

    Originally Posted by MEDITATE View Post
    Ya ..now..its too late to do anything..because "offence intended" idiots like you kept thinking the way you think now.....its because of those idiots the world is were the world is today....r i definitley agree with you...theres no point on following any counter measure anymore..its too late.
    this is because our leaders refused to suggest any kind of nuanced approach that took risk factors into account, and instead demanded the same strict guidance be practiced on everyone.

    which is why we have the government shutting down frat parties and other stupid low risk things while nursing homes still get hit.

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    Originally Posted by BigBallsMcgee View Post
    Neither does the CDC, as they've changed their mind many times on basic things like masks, quarantine length, how it spreads etc.
    I'd very much like to see what you are referring to when you say the cdc changed their mind many times on how it spreads.

    Also, quarantine length.

    Masks, well, once they got theirs they acknowledged we want masks too...once they got theirs

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    To anyone who's still clueless ...

    https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showt...post1614037321


    If you don't understand what's in that link then you don't understand anything about what's going on in national and international politics, government, and media today.

    4th generation warfare is being waged against us and they've been very successful so far and will be totally successful if they don't receive any more resistance than they have so far - ie. the US will become a 'communist'[in reality 'totalitarian'] country.

    The bioweapon virus is being used to assist the Great Reset which is a Marxist communist scam to attack and overthrow the US and create totalitarian government ... and not only here but globally as well. It's the same reason for the riots, the racial propaganda, the highly coordinated and funded takeover and subversion of all TV and internet media, why the WHO and UN and WEF and many Americans[both the conspirators and their useful idiots] are in love with the Communist Party of China, the 'climate change is gonna kill us all if we don't trust massive and oppressive government' propaganda, the anti-2A and anti-self defense propaganda, the stolen election and much more.

    All of it is being highly organized and funded by wealthy international players [like Soros, Zuckerberg, Bloomberg, Tom Steyer, Klaus Schwab] who are seeking to be the totalitarian owners and controllers of ev.er.y.thing.

    The Marxist communist scam is by far the biggest crime against humanity ever in all of humanity. The creation of nuclear weapons would probably be a distant second.

    Man's worst inhumanity to man in the past 120 years by far is that created by the Marxist communist scam. Nothing else comes even remotely close. 100's of millions have been killed by it and countless billions of lives harmed, destroyed, dehumanized in so many ways. Even the rise of German and other European nationalism[and that eventually led to support for Nazism] in the 19-teens to 20's was a -response- to the ongoing and increasing Marxist communist attack on them ... very similar in many ways to what we are facing in the US and other Western countries today.


    Now that demonic monster is rapidly rearing its ugly head again.



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    The -ONLY- way we can defeat it is by greatly altering those numbers so that far less are fooled by it and far more become aware of it.
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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    I'd very much like to see what you are referring to when you say the cdc changed their mind many times on how it spreads.

    Also, quarantine length.

    Masks, well, once they got theirs they acknowledged we want masks too...once they got theirs
    they just changed quarantine guidelines last week.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/health/healt...id-19-n1248865


    and member when they told anyone to keep washing hands and disinfecting surfaces, and then changed their mind and said thats not really how it spreads

    https://abcnews.go.com/Health/scienc...ry?id=72422796
    they are making this s*it up on the fly. its a new virus, its not unexpected.

    but acknowledge and stop acting like whatever they say is gospel when they'll change their mind next week

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    Originally Posted by BigBallsMcgee View Post
    they just changed quarantine guidelines last week.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/health/healt...id-19-n1248865


    and member when they told anyone to keep washing hands and disinfecting surfaces, and then changed their mind and said thats not really how it spreads

    https://abcnews.go.com/Health/scienc...ry?id=72422796
    they are making this s*it up on the fly. its a new virus, its not unexpected.

    but acknowledge and stop acting like whatever they say is gospel when they'll change their mind next week
    LMAO, that's the ace up your sleeve for, yes, a new virus?




    "At the time, Redfield said researchers were looking at whether "you can use testing during the quarantine to determine if you can shorten the quarantine to seven or 10 days." Without testing, he said, you could miss a percentage of infectious cases.

    "Obviously we don’t want people to be quarantined 14 days unnecessarily," Redfield said.

    Dr. Tom Frieden, former head of the CDC, agreed that it may be necessary to make quarantines more palatable to the general public.

    "We need to optimize quarantine," said Frieden, who currently serves as president of the global public health initiative, Resolve to Save Lives. "We know that the biggest risk is from days four to seven. After that, the risk is lower" for transmission, he said."





    That's how science works BTW ^

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    An indian man got severely sick after taking the astrazeneca vaccine. Not yet sure wether it was caused by the vaccine or not. Some people report getting moderately sick for a few days.

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    Originally Posted by PimpMasterC View Post
    An indian man got severely sick after taking the astrazeneca vaccine. Not yet sure wether it was caused by the vaccine or not. Some people report getting moderately sick for a few days.
    Sounds like AZ is going after him in the tune of 13 million for the allegations.

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    An interesting article I read today. Keep up masks and distancing for at least a year? Yeah no thanks. With 2 vaccines likely to be approved, Oxford as a maybe, J&J following in a few months, amongst others, how do they possibly think that people will continue with this for another year? Once people get a vaccine they are likely done giving a ****.

    https://komonews.com/news/coronaviru...id-19-vaccines

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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    LMAO, that's the ace up your sleeve for, yes, a new virus?




    "At the time, Redfield said researchers were looking at whether "you can use testing during the quarantine to determine if you can shorten the quarantine to seven or 10 days." Without testing, he said, you could miss a percentage of infectious cases.

    "Obviously we don’t want people to be quarantined 14 days unnecessarily," Redfield said.

    Dr. Tom Frieden, former head of the CDC, agreed that it may be necessary to make quarantines more palatable to the general public.

    "We need to optimize quarantine," said Frieden, who currently serves as president of the global public health initiative, Resolve to Save Lives. "We know that the biggest risk is from days four to seven. After that, the risk is lower" for transmission, he said."





    That's how science works BTW ^
    yea like I said its not unexpected that they learn new things and change their position. But that also means I dont take everything they say as gospel cause they still basically dont know s*it

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