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08-12-2020, 10:24 AM #6901
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08-12-2020, 11:01 AM #6902
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08-12-2020, 11:11 AM #6903
Surprised this wasn't posted in this thread.
UK govt says their death data is compromised.
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08-12-2020, 12:26 PM #6904
I work for a life insurance carrier. We write coverage for business’s that have 3-200 employees
From the time frame of 3/15-7/25, covid life claims have averaged at 7.5% of all life claims
Largest 2 weeks were 5/3-5/9 and 6/28-7/4
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08-12-2020, 01:17 PM #6905
Any time someone gets pneumonia, it can still be seen on medical imaging for weeks after you've recovered. That's normal with pneumonia and is not COVID specific and goes away eventually. Recovery time depends on how bad it was and your age, health, etc. It's not permanent like CrackmasterC keeps reporting.
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08-12-2020, 01:58 PM #6906
Pretty much have ignored the covid based bickering and just pocket my mask whenever i leave the house. I respect other peoples' desires to want to go out to restaurants while living in media induced fear of killing their nan because they really cared more about a cocktail than their family's health.
However NOW it has spread to 'Murican Football. So now i'm irritated. It's like the media/politicians realized people are starting to realize it's a senior-citizen/fatty killer so they're not taking it as seriously. "Quick... let's make it sound more horrible by pumping the news outlets with news of how it affects the heart!" So now every sports outlet is chitting on the few college football conferences that haven't yet cancelled the season. They're leaning heavily on the fact that "now data is showing it damages the heart!"
Like a sane and educated person. I didn't turn on the news, I went to reputable associations and journals to find out what the findings were. Particularly:
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...rticle/2768915
https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-pers...id-19-patients
Of the 24 cadavers with heart infections, a cytokine response panel showed that expression of six pro-inflammatory genes was higher in the 16 with high viral loads than in the 8 with low viral loads. But there were no signs of a massive influx of inflammatory cells into the heart muscle or tissue death in either group.
Cause of death was listed as pneumonia in 35 cases (89.7%), while the other four (10.2%) died of necrotizing fasciitis, cardiac decompensation with previous heart failure, bacterial bronchitis, or unknown causes. The most common underlying illnesses were coronary artery disease (32 [82.0%]), high blood pressure (17 [43.6%]), and diabetes (7 [17.9%]). Median patient age was 85 years, and 23 of 39 patients (59%) were women.
I mean... just WHAT in the GOD DAMN FUKDCA'ing FXS since Sept2022
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08-12-2020, 02:12 PM #6907
Dude, the goalposts keep moving.
First, it was flatten the curve of hospitalizations. Then, the media is freaked out about the cases despite lower death tolls. Now they’re looking for anything they can to scare the masses. Long term damage for a disease with less than a year of existence?
The fear of football being played is absolutely insane. It’s outside. Involving maybe the healthiest people in America. College kids are in a better place if they’re surrounded by their teammates, getting tested constantly, in a semi-bubble at their college, with medical professionals around them.Horny.
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08-12-2020, 02:41 PM #6908
I posted a Reuter’s article on it.
They got caught inflating the numbers like everyone else
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08-12-2020, 03:26 PM #6909
Impaired cellular immunity to SARS-CoV-2 in severe COVID-19 patients
"In summary, we detected anti-SARS-CoV-2 antibody responses in most severe
cases, while impaired cellular responses were observed in all severe COVID-19
patients. Our results thus provide insight in the pathogenesis of severe COVID-19.
They suggest that induction of cellular immunity is vital in controlling SARS-CoV-2
infection, which also has implications in development of an effective vaccine."
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....10.20171371v1
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08-12-2020, 04:01 PM #6910
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08-12-2020, 05:01 PM #6911
Posting this video on last time
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08-12-2020, 06:01 PM #6912
I don't believe that was the study that these decisions was based on. This one was an MRI of the hearts of 100 patients with a median age of 59 roughly 2 or 3 months post diagnosis. It was a German study, so hard to see how they would have any special reason to play the results up or down.
Conclusions and Relevance In this study of a cohort of German patients recently recovered from COVID-19 infection, CMR revealed cardiac involvement in 78 patients (78%) and ongoing myocardial inflammation in 60 patients (60%), independent of preexisting conditions, severity and overall course of the acute illness, and time from the original diagnosis. These findings indicate the need for ongoing investigation of the long-term cardiovascular consequences of COVID-19.INTP Crew
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08-12-2020, 06:18 PM #6913
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Friend of ours had it.
She works in a hospital setting and her husband flies every week around the country.
She was in bed for 10 days with severe symptoms but has recovered and is living life relatively normal, going to restaurants etc.
I'll see if I can get a more detailed recount.
Edit:: She said her case was mild, no fever, a small cough but highly fatigued. Lost her sense of smell, garlic and eucalyptus smelled the same to her. She does not workout regularly.
A coworker of hers, boyfriend also got it, he is 27 and in good shape. He couldn't even walk to the bathroom, that's how bad his shortness of breath was. He had 103 fever for 10 days and called an ambulance to go to the hospital. This was when north Austin hospitals were full a month ago and they told him to go home with a z-pack. He has long lasting effects, his lungs still hurt and he has confusion issues.Last edited by metroins; 08-12-2020 at 07:08 PM.
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08-12-2020, 06:23 PM #6914
My kids friends mom got it, went to a funeral down at a border town in Texas
One of the family members had it, the mom got it
Said she had a mild case, just cough , light symptoms
She stayed down there for a few weeks to quarantine and stayed in her room for a week once she got home
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08-12-2020, 06:37 PM #6915
Who else thinks they might have COVID every once in a while? Some days my allergies act up or I get a headache or I’m really exhausted and I think okay here we go, corona time. The fact that there are so many symptoms and so many degrees of severity I’m sure it has a lot of people wondering if they’re getting COVID when something feels off.
And I don’t worry about dealing with it, but I do not want to have it and pass it on to people.Horny.
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08-12-2020, 07:14 PM #6916Long after the fire of a Covid-19 infection, mental and neurological effects can still smolder
“It’s not only an acute problem. This is going to be a chronic illness,” said Wes Ely, a pulmonologist and critical care physician at Vanderbilt University Medical Center who studies delirium during intensive care stays. “The problem for these people is not over when they leave the hospitalDoctors have concerns that patients may also suffer lasting damage to their heart, kidneys, and liver from the inflammation and blood clotting the disease causes
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08-12-2020, 07:17 PM #6917
Coworkers family friend, in her 80s, got it twice
Hospital both times
Didn’t survive the second timeDallas Cowboys
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08-12-2020, 07:31 PM #6918
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I think this a lot.
I take my temperature about 5x a day. Its easy with the temporal thermometer, I leave it on the kitchen counter and take it as I walk by. Seeing the 98.whatever really feels good.
We only leave our home about once a month for baby doctor visits and every time the 3-4 days after I'm super fatigued, sore throat, headache and I get a cough. I realize it's anxiety, because I get the same symptoms when I'm extremely stressed at work and have to take time off. I had to sleep today for 18 of the past 24 hours due to work stress. The past two weeks I've been working nonstop.
My family and business can't afford for me to be ill, so we really take precautions, meaning not leaving the house. My wife just quit her job (not returning from maternity leave) because we don't want to trust a live in nanny to bring it home to us.
I just keep reminding myself it's almost impossible for me to get it.
Jesus that sucks.
My mom is on the lung transplant list, if she gets it she's dead. Yet she still goes grocery shopping and everything even though I have everything she needs delivered. She lives in a very rural area, so I feel at least somewhat safe for her. I'm honestly just waiting for the call telling me she got it and feeling helpless for her. I spent so much time getting her through cancer and then on this transplant list, I can't help her if she gets the virus. There's no like covid19 specialist.
Covid19 is a bad way to die.Last edited by metroins; 08-12-2020 at 07:40 PM.
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08-12-2020, 07:35 PM #6919
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08-12-2020, 07:44 PM #6920
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Here's a list of healthcare workers who died of the virus.
922 so far.
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08-12-2020, 08:31 PM #6921
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08-12-2020, 08:41 PM #6922
People surprised that you can get covid more thsn once..mind blown
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08-12-2020, 09:11 PM #6923
Well to be fair there has been no straight forward declaration about this. I have seen several cases in the news and some just from random people like what was posted here.
When you try to research it (at least the last time I checked) there is always something about how maybe it is possible to get it twice, but they don't think it is happening or it is super rare, and that maybe people are having a flare up of existing virus that was still in their body.
The one I recall here in Dallas I think the woman had it in February and then again in June?
If this is true (you can be reinfected/no lasting immunity) then I can see that being kept under wraps to avoid panicking people. I just saw a somewhat similar post on the other board today:
Originally Posted By Ber92fm:
A while back I posted my boss's brother got a bad case of COVID-19, texted his goodbyes, and went on a vent. He started feeling better and got discharged from the hospital after receiving antibodies in one of the big studies being touted.
Flash forward, he is back in the hospital on a vent and texted his goodbyes again yesterday. We'll see how this goes, but it was sadly both unexpected and surprising.
They knew it was infectious through the eye membranes and now Fauci is just starting to talk about goggles just before autumn and flu season.
This is not a coincidence. this whole thing has been expectation management from day 1. Expect to see the goggle thing and small droplet airborne thing get more press as flu season gets closer because they are going to change the narrative and recommendations again to try to make the **** show we call flu season as less damaging as possible.
But it will not work because people see the inconsistencies and the lies and nobody believes what they are told anymore. the authorities have either really screwed the pooch on this by not being truthful to avoid panic or they did it on purpose to get it to burn through the population while still having a semi plausible narrative of we did the best we could.Bull ****. there is so little definitive info being told to the public I can only draw 2 conclusions. Either they know a bunch they aren't telling the public about, or our entire medical research capability in this country is retarded and incompetent or corrupt. We have over a dozen vaccines in the research pipeline, but we still know very little about this virus?
I can only conclude info is being withheld, and there is only one reason to withhold info and it isn't because it is good news. We are being kept in the dark for the sake of society and essential services.
ETA: Felt the need to add it could still be incompetence instead of conspiracy. But I would absolutely expect government to manage the reaction of the populace.
ETA 2: Remembered this one; same page as linked
That lines with my wife’s friend. She was sick in February and lingered until April. Tests negative. Doctor said she was likely covid. Lungs trashed. Gets symptoms again in July and tests positive. Tests results take 10 days. Her lungs are destroyed. She is 48 years old. Still no sense of smell.Last edited by katya422; 08-12-2020 at 09:16 PM.
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08-12-2020, 09:45 PM #6924
Im on my phone now ...so cant link a few studies i read about regarding reinfections... but from what i remember...
That when u get infected and recover.....it doesnt mean that your will not get reinfected.....it doesnt mean that our body will hsve the ability to make t-cells aka white blood cells thatll recognize and eliminate other cells infected with the virus
Edit: ffrom the cdc website
At this point in the pandemic, there is not enough evidence about the effectiveness of antibody-mediated immunity to guarantee the accuracy of an “immunity passport” or “risk-free certificate.” People who assume that they are immune to a second infection because they have received a positive test result may ignore public health advice. The use of such certificates may therefore increase the risks of continued transmission.Cherish your life. Live to tell your story
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08-12-2020, 10:34 PM #6925
Plasma of the recovered shows good results as treatment of the infected
An 80 yr old may not have the immune system of someone under 65, I’m not sure of her condition
I’ll ask him next time we talk
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08-12-2020, 11:30 PM #6926
Antibodies only last for around 3 months. So, of course you can get it again. T cells don´t offer full protection as I´ve previously said. Amazing how long it takes for people to catch on. Smart people were talking about reinfection like 5 months ago.
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08-13-2020, 12:21 AM #6927Fed officials say rush to reopen the US economy has backfired
ohhhhhhhh,,, YOU DONT SAY ...we've been shouting this out on top of the fukcing rooftops and those fat hillbilly redneck fukctards just realized thatCherish your life. Live to tell your story
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08-13-2020, 02:29 AM #6928
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fall and winter are gonna be crazy, globally.
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08-13-2020, 04:07 AM #6929
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08-13-2020, 04:11 AM #6930Cherish your life. Live to tell your story
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