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    Is the instant gratification of modern porn causing incels?

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    Tons of men and women are masturbating to people way better looking than they could ever get with irl. All I full HD and 4k.

    I believe 40-50% of the west arent having sex
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    I wouldn't blame porn per say, I personally blame failed households (single parent households), the normalization of mental illnesses, the encouragement of finding oneself via living a careless life, and the general culture. Porn has been around for centuries and it didn't cause any issues.

    There's no issue with imaging oneself with someone more attractive then us. I would say its natural but being delusional about the prospect of meeting someone out of your league and actively pursuing someone more attractive then you is entering mental illness territory. However, I am starting to see more and more people with people more attractive then themselves. It's usually a power based relationship and they tend to not last long because relationships should be founded on love and not whether or not your partner is hotter then you. It is what it is in the end. I personally haven't really been in the dating game for a while now and have been focusing on my myself for a while now. Got into my dream program and got an interview that went really well for a job I've always wanted to do as a special constable. The good women will pick up on it and will engage with me. I don't have time for broken people. Stop pondering about these things EOD. Live your life brah and find your inner calling.
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    For men at least, it's porn. When women IRL aren't interested in about half the guys out there, but those guys can still get their nuts off to hundreds of 9/10s any time they'd like, those bottom half of guys just stop giving a chit.

    Women can get stuffed at will, so if they're not having sex, that's their problem.
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    Not a direct cause, but it's something that contributes to it.

    There's literally a miscer here who faps to porn in his VR headset with his sexdoll instead of putting in the work to meet real girls. Do you see him trying to break out of his pathetic state or going deeper into it?
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    Originally Posted by Voidgaze View Post
    Not a direct cause, but it's something that contributes to it.

    There's literally a miscer here who faps to porn in his VR headset with his sexdoll instead of putting in the work to meet real girls. Do you see him trying to break out of his pathetic state or going deeper into it?
    There's no desire for men to try when they have dolls and 8's on porn now. 10-20 years ago there was still some desire to go out and get a 6/10 but not anymore.
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    I try to do masturbation by myself. Not have sex with other in 3 months.
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    I think, more broadly, it’s the increasingly hyper sexualisation of society, and porn is one of the main contributing factors.
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    I'm voluntarily celebite and just bought a VR headset and let me tell you that chit is.a.whole.new.level of fapping to pron. Legit seemed like the girl was riding/kissing me, holeee phuck. Chit can't be good for you.

    The interdasting thing is at least half+ of the pron actresses I fapped to, I could probably smash/pull females on their looks level irl.

    Pron is bad because it can be addictive, can lead to fapping to trannies, etc.. and it's bad if you are in a relationship with women that don't look like pron actresses, you may prefer pron to real sex.

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    Originally Posted by Voidgaze View Post
    Not a direct cause, but it's something that contributes to it.

    There's literally a miscer here who faps to porn in his VR headset with his sexdoll instead of putting in the work to meet real girls. Do you see him trying to break out of his pathetic state or going deeper into it?
    That's disturbing lol. Making love to a piece of plastic imagining it's a real woman in a video. Lol
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    Originally Posted by eod8989 View Post
    There's no desire for men to try when they have dolls and 8's on porn now. 10-20 years ago there was still some desire to go out and get a 6/10 but not anymore.
    There were dolls and 8's in pron 20+ years ago too.

    It's the unlimited access to hundreds of 8's in vivid virtual reality that "may" lead some men to prefer ldar'ing in their basement with a robot over reproducing with one 5/10.

    20+ years ago we were stuck fapping to the four chicks in a penthouse magazine or on a video tape, untill we left our house to buy a new pron mag/video. So there was "some" effort involved and enough barriers to keep addictive behavior in check. Like if I wanted to replicate one fap session I had earlier this week, 20 years ago would have cost me about $100. And I would have had to buy two full bags of videos at an adult bookstore. Would have taken about an hour just to get the pronography in my hands and back to my place before I could even set up. Then would need to continually eject/load multiple video cassettes in my VCR. Back then anybody doing that would have been looked at as having a "problem".

    Today, I can scroll/preview through dozens of videos in about a minute or two for free on my phone without leaving my house.

    You can blame pron. But it's actually a weakness of the man. It's not that much different then these people who eat so much they can't leave their house.

    Are you going to blame food for fat people being fat?
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    yes i think it can definitely be a big factor. i mean if you have porn, you're not going to try to pick up women because you have a fallback with porn. so that instinct for you to reproduce is satisfied. like they say, your brain gets wired up for that and you have to unwire it.

    i think like in my case, i just don't try or purposely avoid trying to meet women. after my last relationship ended, i found out about some stuff and developed some serious trust issues. i'm still not over it and i just don't want to go through that again.
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    Women dont want to fuk men as much because social media and online dating have raised their standards and men dont want to fuk women as much because of porn

    Why even try to bang a 5 when you can just fap to 8s online?
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    Originally Posted by eod8989 View Post
    Women dont want to fuk men as much because social media and online dating have raised their standards and men dont want to fuk women as much because of porn

    Why even try to bang a 5 when you can just fap to 8s online?
    Because of real human interaction, reproducing, etc... At some point in life, most men wake up, start to value qualities in women that would make them good wives, good mother's, etc... and accept the fact they aren't going to marry a model.

    Or if they continue to value looks > everything else, they aquire the necessary resources to procure 8/10's.

    Those are the options. Living in a fantasy world that is not reality, and not having the strength to interact with women in real life, will make a man lonely and childless.

    I also disagree and think hypersexualization of society has made women and men more promiscuous, not less. That is more of a result of pronhub/Tinder, but again, people have free will so can decide how they want to live their lives.
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    Originally Posted by spadelexus View Post
    Because of real human interaction, reproducing, etc... At some point in life, most men wake up, start to value qualities in women that would make them good wives, good mother's, etc... and accept the fact they aren't going to marry a model.

    Or if they continue to value looks > everything else, they aquire the necessary resources to procure 8/10's.

    Those are the options. Living in a fantasy world that is not reality, and not having the strength to interact with women in real life, will make a man lonely and childless.

    I also disagree and think hypersexualization of society has made women and men more promiscuous, not less. That is more of a result of pronhub/Tinder, but again, people have free will so can decide how they want to live their lives.
    The stats showing that there are a greater number of incels now than ever, and millennials have less sex disagrees with you.


    Social media/ online dating apps, which give endless options to women regardlesss of their looks, and penalise men for being sub chad and then porn, which de-sensitizes men to an ever growing pool of overweight women.
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    Originally Posted by LordLuck View Post
    The stats showing that there are a greater number of incels now than ever, and millennials have less sex disagrees with you.


    Social media/ online dating apps, which give endless options to women regardlesss of their looks, and penalise men for being sub chad and then porn, which de-sensitizes men to an ever growing pool of overweight women.
    This, like I said in the op I think at least 40% of men and around 22% of women are not having sex

    People were having a lot more sex in the 80s and 90s.
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    Relationships are work and always have been. But this day and age everyone be sayin they don't want a bf or gf. Like literally everyone is hyping sex to the max these days.

    Back in the day probably a man could be laid back with a women assured she isn't fuking anyone but now in days that peace is probably non existent. Women now just ditch and bitch like crazy. "Oh you lost me" my ass lmao such a dumb common mentality

    Plus that with social media. Have a girl sayin she is just friends with a guy she met on fb and literally makes me want to barf seeing how zero fuks women give until you fuk them maybe.
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    That's disturbing lol. Making love to a piece of plastic imagining it's a real woman in a video. Lol
    That miscer is long gone done... Way past off the deep end.
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    Originally Posted by eod8989 View Post
    Srs

    Tons of men and women are masturbating to people way better looking than they could ever get with irl. All I full HD and 4k.

    I believe 40-50% of the west arent having sex
    I know for a fact that your autism, delusions, and receding hairline are responsible for creating at least one incel.
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    Nah. Social skills, and I mean basic social skills, is the main reason.
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    I'm seeing a lot of opinions on this thread. Is the evidence all but anecdotal?

    Here's what I make of the, rather limited, stats we have on the subject.

    From about 1970-2010, young Male virginity was at a stable rate of around 10% of all people counted. After 2011, that rate shot up rapidly until 2017, where we have about 30%.

    What changed?

    From what I can see, the biggest cultural factor from now and then is that everyone has Smartphones. Social media, dating apps. And from what we know of the data, these apps give women far greater sexual selection, but also stricter selectivity. They are pickier with their men, and more men are being left out as a result.

    Porn could be a factor, but internet porn was already widespread before this point in time. If anything there is a feedback loop of sexless men turning to porn more often.
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    Originally Posted by Liberal3lite View Post
    Today's generation of men lack the confidence to approach women in a respectful manner. Furthermore, those who manage to muster up enough courage to ask someone out, sperg out the moment they're rejected. Misogynistic attitudes and the ludicrous expectation that any woman they lay their eyes on, owes them sex, are reasons why there are so many frustrated incels in this day and age. This board certainly has an abundance of them.
    This is false. What is the main cause of frustration would be for a man that get a date and doesn't get laid whilst other men get laid without the need of dating said woman. This behavior here is bs and leaves little insensitive to date a woman.

    I've seen girls be with guys twice their age and take an interest in me. I've heard how a certain woman had sex with a friend of mine without being in a relationship. I have another friend receiving nudes from a woman with a working boyfriend and offered sex more than once. I've seen and heard it all basically. The game has changed and has no winning for a man who just wants a gf. You can't simply "approach" a woman and get it to work out. In fact, most of the times it doesn't work out. Why is that? Because the man just wanted to be a good bf. What if he changes and just goes for the fuk? Well, he gets it. Just like my buddy. It's those realizations that turn men misogynistic. Because women avoid all sense of honesty towards what they really want and expect from a guy while at the same time never being able to settle the fuk down. Truth n facts.

    Plus I myself have just kinda had one intimate experience with a gurl and let me tell you it ain't no disney bs and I feel bad for her bf which btw I wasn't when we were getting it down several times almost every day.

    I tell you guys. Girls want the fuk even more than I do and they'll go for anyone that pushes her even a little it's Nuts
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    it's women's standards and nothing more. I'm pretty sure most guys will choose a 4/10 over a lifetime of loneliness. Problem is 4s only want 8s.
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    Originally Posted by imbored21 View Post
    it's women's standards and nothing more. I'm pretty sure most guys will choose a 4/10 over a lifetime of loneliness. Problem is 4s only want 8s.
    Yeah and the porn addiction follows. All girls below 7/10 want to date 7's.
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    Originally Posted by spadelexus View Post
    I'm voluntarily celebite and just bought a VR headset and let me tell you that chit is.a.whole.new.level of fapping to pron. Legit seemed like the girl was riding/kissing me, holeee phuck. Chit can't be good for you.

    The interdasting thing is at least half+ of the pron actresses I fapped to, I could probably smash/pull females on their looks level irl.

    Pron is bad because it can be addictive, can lead to fapping to trannies, etc.. and it's bad if you are in a relationship with women that don't look like pron actresses, you may prefer pron to real sex.

    So yeah I think there's some validity to what you are saying.
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    girls online only want chads. Girls in real life only want rich guys. It's ****ed. Girls just aren't interested in the average guy. I mean why would they be? They have had thousands of average guys throwing themselves at them for decades. We are just one in a sea of cocks. Expendable trash.
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    Originally Posted by eod8989 View Post
    There's no desire for men to try when they have dolls and 8's on porn now. 10-20 years ago there was still some desire to go out and get a 6/10 but not anymore.
    I think the desire has diminished in men because they don’t fit the criteria of the women’s standards, which are delusionally high in most cases. So less good looking guys without wealth and status have stopped trying after failing time and time again.

    This could have always been the case for centuries but again, social media platforms and online dating apps have exacerbated that issue.
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    Originally Posted by spadelexus View Post
    I'm voluntarily celebite and just bought a VR headset and let me tell you that chit is.a.whole.new.level of fapping to pron. Legit seemed like the girl was riding/kissing me, holeee phuck. Chit can't be good for you.

    The interdasting thing is at least half+ of the pron actresses I fapped to, I could probably smash/pull females on their looks level irl.

    Pron is bad because it can be addictive, can lead to fapping to trannies, etc.. and it's bad if you are in a relationship with women that don't look like pron actresses, you may prefer pron to real sex.

    So yeah I think there's some validity to what you are saying.
    Yeah you definitely could pull them in real life. Don’t forget the power of make up and its sorcery to make average/ugly pornstars or other women look like 8+/10’s. I have said that if make up were to disappear, the true natural beauties would be like needles in a hay stack.
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