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    dunno why miscers itt treat their rental investment properties as anything other than just that, an investment. with that comes inherent risk - tenants.

    assuming people without mortgages are lazy, entitled and poor is extremely short sighted
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    Originally Posted by Evil_D View Post
    Blaming everyone for the hyper individualist/selfish actions of boomers.
    I'VE NEVER SEEN THAT BEFORE
    Foreign investment is only a small reason for Australian house prices.

    The following are bigger factors:

    - Boomers buying through SMSFs. A boomer working through 1970-2010 could easily buy 3-4 investment properties through a SMSF given the exponential growth in the stock market (prior to SMSFs traditional super funds would generally invest in index funds and bonds).
    - Negative gearing and a 50% capital gains deduction on investment properties owner for > 1 year. Negative gearing easily allows Australians incl boomers to own investment properties that operate at a loss given it is tax deductible.
    - Planning Laws (no high density developments in suburbs). Muh big backyard and muh big frontyard. This is the big one, notice how Japan doesn't have a housing affordability issue and some of its cities are the most densly populated on earth?.

    If negative gearing, purchases through SMSFs and density restrictions removed, house prices would fall off the face of the earth over night.
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    Originally Posted by envisu View Post
    dunno why miscers itt treat their rental investment properties as anything other than just that, an investment. with that comes inherent risk - tenants.
    Please point out where anyone said that ITT.
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    Originally Posted by Serenadium View Post
    This is the big one, notice how Japan doesn't have a housing affordability issue and some of its cities are the most densly populated on earth?.
    Really?
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    Originally Posted by Serenadium View Post
    Foreign investment is only a small reason for Australian house prices.

    The following are bigger factors:

    - Boomers buying through SMSFs. A boomer working through 1970-2010 could easily buy 3-4 investment properties through a SMSF given the exponential growth in the stock market (prior to SMSFs traditional super funds would generally invest in index funds and bonds).
    - Negative gearing and a 50% capital gains deduction on investment properties owner for > 1 year. Negative gearing easily allows Australians incl boomers to own investment properties that operate at a loss given it is tax deductible.
    - Planning Laws (no high density developments in suburbs). Muh big backyard and muh big frontyard. This is the big one, notice how Japan doesn't have a housing affordability issue and some of its cities are the most densly populated on earth?.

    If negative gearing, purchases through SMSFs and density restrictions removed, house prices would fall off the face of the earth over night.
    Imagine being 30+ and blaming 65+ year olds for your issues.

    Wait, don't do that actually.
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    This kids is a commie. Mad at people who are intelligent to save up and don't do stupid things.

    Your neg means nothing you know? You are still a dumbass communist who wants handouts.

    Thats why you neg instead of debate.

    Ill give you reps on recharge, maybe you can score more social credit points lol
    I negged you because you are WAY TOO OBVIOUS of a troll.

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    Originally Posted by Anachron View Post
    Please point out where anyone said that ITT.
    ?

    a whole thread dedicated to sh*tting on renters and their inability to make payments when times are tough

    most people are financially retarded, course they'll jump on any chance not to pay up lol
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    I negged you because you are WAY TOO OBVIOUS of a troll.

    Do better next time.
    See, that is all you have to do here is call someone an "obvious troll" then you don't have to use your brain and debate, you just let your feminine side take over and get mad.

    Stop drinking your daily soy latte from starbucks and you might save enough money to get a house. Commie bum.
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    Originally Posted by skinnybigballs0 View Post

    Go buy your own fkn house/apartment and pay your own mortgage instead...
    How about landlords pay off their mortgage instead of getting someone else to pay off their investment for them.

    Believe it or not real estate isn’t free money it actually has a risk involved.

    Phaggot landlords having a cry they can’t pay off their mortgage and can’t kick people out. If you’re so poor you have to rely on rental income how about not taking on that massive risk.
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    Originally Posted by theaussieOS View Post
    How about landlords pay off their mortgage instead of getting someone else to pay off their investment for them.

    Believe it or not real estate isn’t free money it actually has a risk involved.

    Phaggot landlords having a cry they can’t pay off their mortgage and can’t kick people out. If you’re so poor you have to rely on rental income how about not taking on that massive risk.
    That’s fine except for the fact you signed a contract to rent from said landlord you stupid ****ing dip****.
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    Originally Posted by skinnybigballs0 View Post
    That’s fine except for the fact you signed a contract to rent from said landlord you stupid ****ing dip****.
    You signed an agreement to pay your mortgage.
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    Originally Posted by theaussieOS View Post
    You signed an agreement to pay your mortgage.
    My apartment is paid off bum.

    In the case I did have a mortgage to pay, I’d still be paying it right now. I’m not sure what you’re getting at scumbag
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    Originally Posted by skinnybigballs0 View Post
    In the case I did have a mortgage to pay, I’d still be paying it right now. I’m not sure what you’re getting at scumbag
    If you relied on a person renting your house to be able to pay your mortgage and the rent stopped then there is risk involved.

    My point is stop having a cry about someone else paying off your investment.

    If you can’t cover the risk and so poor you can’t solely rely on your own income you are a brainlet.
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    This kids is a commie. Mad at people who are intelligent to save up and don't do stupid things.

    Your neg means nothing you know? You are still a dumbass communist who wants handouts.

    Thats why you neg instead of debate.

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    It's low IQ wagecels living paycheck to paycheck.

    All of a sudden, the coronavirus drops and they can't afford next months rent because they dropped all their cash from last paycheck on an iPhone 11 pro
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    Originally Posted by outfoxxed View Post
    It's low IQ wagecels living paycheck to paycheck.
    Buying a house with the banks money and then have someone else pay it off is pretty easy. Who knows why people think theyre special because they have a mortgage to pay.
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    Originally Posted by theaussieOS View Post
    If you relied on a person renting your house to be able to pay your mortgage and the rent stopped then there is risk involved.

    My point is stop having a cry about someone else paying off your investment.

    If you can’t cover the risk and so poor you can’t solely rely on your own income you are a brainlet.
    So maybe you shouldn’t sign agreements that you know you will violate.

    Regardless, the law is on my side and you’ll be paying your rent sooner or later. Scumbag
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    Landlord who treats his tenants right checking in

    Originally Posted by Anachron View Post
    Slumlords going to slumlord.

    Why would anyone want tenants that would make them keep the deposit?
    This. You're a fuking dumb fuk if you want a reason to keep a deposit.

    Originally Posted by HomerJThompson View Post
    Landlords wants to go to mass evictions because of a 1 in 50 year event, op has no idea why landlords might have some negative feedback.
    No, we dont. Evictions and turnover are extremely time consuming and expensive. I want all my tenants to live in the units as long as possible. For some, that will include making a payment plan with me, getting themselves on section 8 and/or unemployment.

    Originally Posted by theaussieOS View Post
    How about landlords pay off their mortgage instead of getting someone else to pay off their investment for them.

    Believe it or not real estate isn’t free money it actually has a risk involved.

    Phaggot landlords having a cry they can’t pay off their mortgage and can’t kick people out. If you’re so poor you have to rely on rental income how about not taking on that massive risk.
    I saw a tweet along these lines earlier. I immediately wondered to myself how some people live with IQs that hover around room temperature. I would imagine life would be easier in a lot of ways being this much of a simpleton but on the other hand it would be harder because of being so fuking dumb. By this logic, every business in existence should give their product or service away for free because we can't have "muh consumers pay that for demmmmzzzz!!" This is seriously the dumbest argument ive ever heard regardless of subject matter.
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    Originally Posted by Ratfish View Post
    most landlords are dicks, and they're not the owners, they're a management company making 15 points or so. stealing deposits, going into apartments for no reason, jacking rent arbitrarily to force particular people out. i hear tons of horror stories from rentcels.
    While this can be true there are just as many horror stories of degenerate renters who seem to have more protection from the law than the actual owners.
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    Originally Posted by flexnation View Post
    This is seriously the dumbest argument ive ever heard regardless of subject matter.
    My main point is that property is a risk. Buying a house and renting it out and then sitting on your rotund behind isn’t hard and you’re not special.
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    Originally Posted by theaussieOS View Post
    My main point is that property is a risk. Buying a house and renting it out and then sitting on your rotund behind isn’t hard and you’re not special.
    No shyt its a risk. Whats that have to do with your argument being so fuking dumb? Im curious to know how much property you own? You're likely a CEO10k/day and own 1000+ units if you think that buying property and collecting rent isn't hard
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    Landlords are the biggest scums of society. Don't worry people, the days of cheaper rents and housing are coming.

    Commercial property is about to nose dive. I'm not talking about a little dip, I'm talking a considerable drop. It's why We Works got destroyed because they have pumped so much money into taking on long term leases to sub-lease out at higher prices - LOL at what a crap business model this is.

    For residential, just share accommodation for a while longer/ live at home a while longer. Residential property investors will be begging to off load their negative yield homes. Let's just hope the Government revises write down tax laws at the same time.

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    Originally Posted by flexnation View Post
    No shyt its a risk. Whats that have to do with your argument being so fuking dumb? Im curious to know how much property you own? You're likely a CEO10k/day and own 1000+ units if you think that buying property and collecting rent isn't hard
    The argument makes sense. There's always a risk of getting stiffed, and missing mortgage payments over it means you weren't prepared for that risk. You could probably get the money you are owed eventually, through civil litigation, but it's on the landlord to be prepared for the possibility that a tenant is a pos.
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    Originally Posted by Adam16121 View Post
    The argument makes sense. There's always a risk of getting stiffed, and missing mortgage payments over it means you weren't prepared for that risk. You could probably get the money you are owed eventually, through civil litigation, but it's on the landlord to be prepared for the possibility that a tenant is a pos.
    The argument that "Landlords should pay off their mortgage instead of getting someone to pay off their investment for them" is stupid. No other way to put it. I agree with everything else though. It all boils down to risk management and if you can't cover your mortgage because your tenants didnt pay, then thats on you ultimately for not managing the risk and being not being prepared.
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    Originally Posted by aleeboy View Post
    Landlords are the biggest scums of society. Don't worry people, the days of cheaper rents and housing are coming.

    Commercial property is about to nose dive. I'm not talking about a little dip, I'm talking a considerable drop. It's why We Works got destroyed because they have pumped so much money into taking on long term leases to sub-lease out at higher prices - LOL at what a crap business model this is.

    For residential, just share accommodation for a while longer/ live at home a while longer. Residential property investors will be begging to off load their negative yield homes. Let's just hope the Government revises write down tax laws at the same time.

    If the above all come to, the world can reset. If not, buy some lube, or else you will bleed.
    Can’t wait to buy some cheap houses and rent them off to dumbasses like you
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    Originally Posted by aleeboy View Post
    Landlords are the biggest scums of society. Don't worry people, the days of cheaper rents and housing are coming.

    Commercial property is about to nose dive. I'm not talking about a little dip, I'm talking a considerable drop. It's why We Works got destroyed because they have pumped so much money into taking on long term leases to sub-lease out at higher prices - LOL at what a crap business model this is.

    For residential, just share accommodation for a while longer/ live at home a while longer. Residential property investors will be begging to off load their negative yield homes. Let's just hope the Government revises write down tax laws at the same time.

    If the above all come to, the world can reset. If not, buy some lube, or else you will bleed.
    Interesting concept. Interest rates real low, probably all kinds of incentives to buy, might be a golden opportunity for rentcells to become homeownercells.
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    Originally Posted by Fuqdatass View Post
    They’re fuk all lazy and so are you clearly

    I could go out tonight and pick up another gig for an extra few hundred a week easy on top of still working my job

    But oh no, lazy entitled rentcels don’t want to stock shelves or work nights or hustle when it’s easier to do nothing, whine it’s too hard and expect to skip rent

    These people are marshmallow soft and never going to accomplish chit
    sometimes i'm lazy. i'll wear mismatched socks
    who said anything about expecting to skip rent lol. Landlord Gotta do better screnning, no marshmallow chit

    Originally Posted by skinnybigballs0 View Post
    Fukn lol. DoorDash, postmates, and Uber are always hiring.

    A friend of mine made 380$ delivering food on these apps in ONE day last week srs.
    good for your friend srs

    Landlords maybe have 1 hustler paying them monthly.(aka multiple income streams, etc)
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    "all of a sudden"?

    You think people didn't hate them before?
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    Originally Posted by skinnybigballs0 View Post
    Can’t wait to buy some cheap houses and rent them off to dumbasses like you
    Sorry, bro.

    I don't live in areas you can afford.


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    Another day, another rentcel cope thread

    Imagine not having 6 months of expenses saved up in an emergency savings account. Bitching about rent a month into this thing lol
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