NYC is letting people out of prison due to the Coronavirus

[bodyhard]

It's crazy what they are doing but I know some families who are happy they have family members out now.

Not sure if you guys remember the story I posted here some years ago about my friend Dennis who almost killed a cop and was getting ready for sentencing? Well he did get his sentencing 25 years and now he is out, him and I spoke on the phone yesterday and he was crying out of of happiness. I asked him was this temporary and he said no, he was pardoned by the state and considered time served.

I am really happy for Dennis, he has two little girls who missed him dearly while he was locked up and they would have been grown adults if he had served the whole 25 years.

What do you guys think of this situation NY letting folks out of prison for fear of them spreading the virus among each other??

[MinisterOfLust]

It's crazy what they are doing but I know some families who are happy they have family members out now.

Not sure if you guys remember the story I posted here some years ago about my friend Dennis who almost killed a cop and was getting ready for sentencing? Well he did get his sentencing 25 years and now he is out, him and I spoke on the phone yesterday and he was crying out of of happiness. I asked him was this temporary and he said no, he was pardoned by the state and considered time served.

I am really happy for Dennis, he has two little girls who missed him dearly while he was locked up and they would have been grown adults if he had served the whole 25 years.

What do you guys think of this situation NY letting folks out of prison for fear of them spreading the virus among each other??

It's crazy man. This virus has changed our way of living. They had no choice because a lot of inmates at Riker's Island tested positive

[hendrixfreak70]

So, if they're not violent felons it won't be too bad. If they're violent felons, it's likely they will still be violent but on the outside.

[7Seconds]

What do you guys think of this situation NY letting folks out of prison for fear of them spreading the virus among each other??

Kind of drives the point home that maybe those people shouldn't be locked up anyway.

[BeginnerGainz]

I’m all for letting out non-violent offenders but does anyone else find it funny that we are told to stay in one place and isolate, yet these people are isolated in one place while in prison, but are being let out to NOT be isolated in one place?

[LWW]

I’m all for letting out non-violent offenders but does anyone else find it funny that we are told to stay in one place and isolate, yet these people are isolated in one place while in prison, but are being let out to NOT be isolated in one place?

That there be Govment for ya, political over common sense. They also be threatening to lock-up folks for not "social distancing" not sure bout NY (Gov Al Pacino be kinda threatening, but not really specific?). Cali, on the other-hand, that dude be telling folks to "snitch", my, my how things are so fukkked now!

Socially close/leaving house = capital murderer.

[Karl_Hungus]

Kind of drives the point home that maybe those people shouldn't be locked up anyway.

I think aggravated assault on a police officer probably warrants being locked up. Maybe it is just me...

[Cass40]

Are the prisoners getting stimulus money too?

[LWW]

I think aggravated assault on a police officer probably warrants being locked up. Maybe it is just me...

Yes, Just YOU!

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I think aggravated assault on a police officer probably warrants being locked up. Maybe it is just me...

I wasn’t speaking specifically about his friend as I don’t remember his story; just the general idea that we imprison far too many people.

[SteadyFlexOnU]

Its called the prison industrial complex


Also releasing criminals onto a vulnerable populations thats already fked from fear of a pandemic. How evil can u be

[Karl_Hungus]

Yes, Just YOU!

Dude...When you finally have the misfortune of shedding this mortal coil for that great gym in the sky, you are going to have "KEN PATERA WAS FRAMED!!!" etched on your tombstone... aren't you?

[OldFartTom]

It is a peculiarity of the US that so many people are in prison ( measured by how many people are in prison per 100,000 population). For whatever reason, the US is much higher than elsewhere. Russia is only competitor

This data is old (2009?) But presented very clearly and easy to read
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/h...l/nn2page1.stm

This is largely the same and is current data, but harder to see https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List...rceration_rate

Good to hear of Dennis's release, from the little of the story you have told, sounds like being released is the right thing, also sounds like he's served enough time (more than enough?) already.

[MinisterOfLust]

Yes, Just YOU!

I was a kid when I saw this.lol I thought it was so real man.

[TheIronAsylum]

libtarrd not even once

[shaneinga]

People in prison are there because they are generally not great at following the law. So you have a bunch of people who have been locked up, now released tasting freedom again, and are being asked to shelter in place to not spread this to other people.

Should work great!

[kingHanley]

Unaware of Dennis ? He almost killed a cop fkn lol and his family is happy he’s out

[bodyhard]

Holy Fukk he got 25 years for that?

Dayum.

Yup, originally they were looking for 25 to life, then it dropped to 15 to 25. He was sentenced in early 2019 so he did a little over a year and is now out.

[bodyhard]

Unaware of Dennis ? He almost killed a cop fkn lol and his family is happy he’s out

It wasn't intentionally, he was riding an illegal 4 wheeler and the cop jumped on his back trying to stop him, Dennis dragged him several blocks until he crashed. Both got badly hurt, but the cop worse than Dennis and was placed in ICU.

They hit him with attempted murder.

[x-trainer ben]

Dam a year. Do you think he is reformed/rehabilitated or will he go back to what he was doing that got him locked up in the first place?
How many thousands of prisoners are they letting out?
Wow,that must be some decision for the parole board.
With that ventilator shortage i get it, i think Cuomo said he has 1 weeks worth left.

[bodyhard]

Dam a year. Do you think he is reformed/rehabilitated or will he go back to what he was doing that got him locked up in the first place?
How many thousands of prisoners are they letting out?
Wow,that must be some decision for the parole board.
With that ventilator shortage i get it, i think Cuomo said he has 1 weeks worth left.

Dennis reformed? No way the guy is nuts! he just lives dangerously.

I am not sure how many they are letting out, but I know for sure it started already.

[Karl_Hungus]

I wasn’t speaking specifically about his friend as I don’t remember his story; just the general idea that we imprison far too many people.

Maybe, but if they are letting out a guy convicted of attempted murder, then it doesn't seem like they are being terribly discriminating about who they release.

Personally, I think a blanket release of inmates is an incredibly dumb idea that is going to bite them in the @ss later.

[Cass40]

It wasn't an attempted murder, though. He was just riding along and someone got stuck for the ride. I thought murder was when you plan to kill someone.

[Karl_Hungus]

It wasn't an attempted murder, though. He was just riding along and someone got stuck for the ride. I thought murder was when you plan to kill someone.

Kinda sounds like the jury saw it differently. That said, my post wasn't aimed at debating the merits of Dennis's case, but rather pointing out that if they are letting out those convicted of attempted murder, then they aren't just limiting the release to nonviolent offenders.

[7Seconds]

Maybe, but if they are letting out a guy convicted of attempted murder, then it doesn't seem like they are being terribly discriminating about who they release.

Personally, I think a blanket release of inmates is an incredibly dumb idea that is going to bite them in the @ss later.

Agreed, i would assume non-violent offenders would be the first to go. Unless OP’s friend was a higher risk due to pre-existing conditions or maybe being in contact with infected inmates. Although that wouldn’t necessarily explain the pardon. Either way the guy has a second chance many don’t get, for the sake of his kids I hope he understands that.

[mtpockets]

Lots in the system for non violent weed offences which is now legal in many places. I would hope they them walk before someone with an attempted murder conviction.

[LWW]

It wasn't an attempted murder, though. He was just riding along and someone got stuck for the ride. I thought murder was when you plan to kill someone.

There are many degrees of murder, and the justice system is game, you better know how to play. Very little, if any of it is common sense as I stated earlier.

[Cass40]

There are many degrees of murder, and the justice system is game, you better know how to play. Very little, if any of it is common sense as I stated earlier.

The word means to kill someone with premeditation. It's a word that has a meaning. He obviously didn't plan any of it so why would he be convicted of something he didn't do? No wonder they let him out.

[Mark1T]

Murder means someone is dead. There is only one level of dead.

[7Seconds]

The word means to kill someone with premeditation. It's a word that has a meaning. He obviously didn't plan any of it so why would he be convicted of something he didn't do? No wonder they let him out.

Unfortunately, there are enough ways for people to kill one another that we need to have a whole set of words to describe it. Definitions vary by state but for the most part:

First degree murder is planning and committing an act with the specific intention to take the life of another human being. You planned it, you followed through, and you (usually) tried to hide it. Generally

Second degree murder is intentionally taking the life of another in the heat of passion. You didn't plan it, but you made a conscious decision to kill.

Third degree murder and manslaughter are two terms for the same thing. Voluntary manslaughter is similar to second degree murder in that there is intent without premeditation, but under circumstances in which any "reasonable person" would become mentally or emotionally unstable enough to kill.

Involuntary manslaughter is where your reckless or careless action or inaction results in the death of another. A situation went south because you f*cked up. You didn't want anyone to get hurt, but you could have stopped it had you done what you were supposed to do.