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    Support for Universal Healthcare grows amid coronavirus scare

    SUPPORT FOR MEDICARE FOR ALL IN U.S. SURGES AMID CORONAVIRUS PANDEMIC, NEW POLL SHOWS

    https://www.newsweek.com/support-med...-shows-1495574

    ... apparently the coronavirus scare has increased public support for "Medicare for all". I'm actually surprised it's still only supported by 55% of the population. But then, these are early days and the massive wave of medical bankruptcies hasn't hit us yet. Indeed it's not just medical bankruptcies; in the wake of this rediculous coronavirus scare, bankruptcies of all kinds will skyrocket along with the layoffs and the economic depression that's coming as a result of the lockdown.

    So this means that support for universal healthcare is only going to grow on the coming months.

    I think, and always thought, the coronavirus lockdown was idiocy based on fearmongering, but it may have one positive benefit: maybe we'll finally take healthcare reform seriously in this country. It doesn't have to be Medicare For All (personally I prefer the "public option"), but the point is, maybe now we'll actually try to solve the problem of healthcare being so unaffordable.
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    Yes, let's let our government control our healthcare after they totally botched the stimulus, were obessessing over impeachment, and Bernie/Biden look like imbeciles on a daily basis. No thank you. We need SMART people to reform our healthcare (if at all), not politicians or government.
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    The version of M4A that Biden, Buttigieg, Yang etc advocated (Medicare option available to anyone alongside private insurance) won't be long in the US
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    Originally Posted by isingmodel View Post
    The version of M4A that Biden, Buttigieg, Yang etc advocated (Medicare option available to anyone alongside private insurance) won't be long in the US
    Wont be long as in won't be long before it happens?
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    Donald Trump said all coronavirus treatment would be 100% covered by insurance companies. Unfortunately for is, Donald Trump is an idiot.
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    pathetic that it is that high. people are such sheep.
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    Originally Posted by ghostfacedup View Post
    Yes, let's let our government control our healthcare after they totally botched the stimulus, were obessessing over impeachment, and Bernie/Biden look like imbeciles on a daily basis. No thank you. We need SMART people to reform our healthcare (if at all), not politicians or government.
    Yea, I mean, nobody knew healthcare was so complicated ... right?
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    Originally Posted by JoshSP1985 View Post
    Wont be long as in won't be long before it happens?
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    Originally Posted by JoshSP1985 View Post
    Wont be long as in won't be long before it happens?
    he's delusional
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    Lol, if anything this should make you want private healthcare more. Will take you three years to get tested if the government ran everything.
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    Originally Posted by ltsOgre View Post
    Donald Trump said all coronavirus treatment would be 100% covered by insurance companies. Unfortunately for is, Donald Trump is an idiot.
    He just said a federal fund would pay the hospital bills for uninsured coronavirus victims. If youre uninsured and break your leg or have a severe asthma attack, you can still go **** yourself, though.
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    Originally Posted by StoliFun View Post
    If youre uninsured and break your leg or have a severe asthma attack, you can still go **** yourself, though.
    Your leg will still get fixed
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    Who wants to tell then about Italy?
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    Originally Posted by BFast55 View Post
    Who wants to tell then about Italy?
    Or South Korea, Germany, Japan?
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    He just said a federal fund would pay the hospital bills for uninsured coronavirus victims. If youre uninsured and break your leg or have a severe asthma attack, you can still go **** yourself, though.
    ERs must treat you regardless of your ability to pay. Other than that glaring fact, you are correct.
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    Or South Korea, Germany, Japan?
    Don't forget Spain.
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    ERs must treat you regardless of your ability to pay. Other than that glaring fact, you are correct.
    Youll get treated but stuck with the bill. If you get Coronas With Lime, youll get treated and Uncle Sam picks up the bill. I dont understand why the disparity.
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    Youll get treated but stuck with the bill. If you get Coronas With Lime, youll get treated and Uncle Sam picks up the bill. I dont understand why the disparity.
    100% correct if you ignore the fact that ERs must treat regardless of ability to pay.
    Also, remember when Obamacare was going to solve this? Good times.
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    Or South Korea, Germany, Japan?
    germany has both public and private health care
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    Originally Posted by BFast55 View Post
    Don't forget Spain.
    SK, Germany and Japan by far had the best responses to this outbreak in the world and all have universal systems. SK's is fully nationalised. So yeah plenty of great examples of universal systems for people to choose from.
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    Originally Posted by ScottTil View Post
    germany has both public and private health care
    Congrats doc, so does every country
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    Originally Posted by BFast55 View Post
    100% correct if you ignore the fact that ERs must treat regardless of ability to pay.
    Also, remember when Obamacare was going to solve this? Good times.
    I dont understand. Why is the government paying for uninsured people to get sick with coronas but not other health problems?

    Doesnt this incentivize risky behavior on the part of the uninsured? Arent they all going to take up smoking and start spitting in each others mouths because the gubmint will pay for it when they get sick and need hospitalization?

    Why is Uncle Sam paying for UHC for Oriental HIV but not other conditions? Is Trump at least going to make China pay for this?
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    Originally Posted by Stizzel View Post
    Socialism creates a pandemic

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    Because libertarianism would have totally banned those Chinese wetmarkets




    And now lets take a look at all the countries resorting to libertarianism to deal with this crisis

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    Originally Posted by isingmodel View Post
    SK, Germany and Japan by far had the best responses to this outbreak in the world and all have universal systems. SK's is fully nationalised. So yeah plenty of great examples of universal systems for people to choose from.
    So we have the best responses and the worst responses (also don't forget china has gov't HC) in the world have gov't HC.
    What you're telling me is that there are clearly other factors involved with the virus spread. And the leftists pushing for it gov't HC are just using a tragedy to get their agenda passed.
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    Originally Posted by StoliFun View Post
    I dont understand. Why is the government paying for uninsured people to get sick with coronas but not other health problems?
    Because the ERs are already forced to cover other illnesses. The funding from the feds was to ensure hospitals would not see a lapse in funding.


    Doesnt this incentivize risky behavior on the part of the uninsured? Arent they all going to take up smoking and start spitting in each others mouths because the gubmint will pay for it when they get sick and need hospitalization?
    Well yes, universal HC does encourage certain people to lead unhealthy lifestyles, since the costs to them will be nothing. Spitting in people's mouths? I guess we all know the type of porn you watch now.

    Why is Uncle Sam paying for UHC for Oriental HIV but not other conditions? Is Trump at least going to make China pay for this?
    Racism and TDS. Par for the course.

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    Not sure I trust that article, only because the MSM has lost all credibility by 'reporting' mainly to promote their partisan and personal political agenda.

    Bernie is out there promoting Medicare for All as being superior and that people would be getting better healthcare during this crisis than they are currently. Patently false. The government is going to pay for healthcare services that are needed as a result of the corona-virus for those who do not have health insurance.
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    I despise Universal Healthcare.
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    Originally Posted by BFast55 View Post
    So we have the best responses and the worst responses (also don't forget china has gov't HC) in the world have gov't HC.
    What you're telling me is that there are clearly other factors involved with the virus spread. And the leftists pushing for it gov't HC are just using a tragedy to get their agenda passed.
    You realize that the US is using a universal healthcare model in their response to this virus right?
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    Originally Posted by randombrah102 View Post
    Because libertarianism would have totally banned those Chinese wetmarkets




    And now lets take a look at all the countries resorting to libertarianism to deal with this crisis

    Oh wait...

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