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    Washington Times exposing the true origins of Covid-19 - ho lee fook!!!

    Its increasingly looking like the official story of the origins of this virus are false.


    China has A LOT of explaining to do



    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...viruses-near-/

    Chinese researchers isolated deadly bat coronaviruses near Wuhan animal market

    Chinese government researchers isolated more than 2,000 animal viruses, including deadly bat coronaviruses, and carried out scientific work on them just three miles from a wild animal market identified as the epicenter of the COVID-19 pandemic.

    Several Chinese state media outlets in recent months touted the virus research and lionized in particular a key researcher in Wuhan, Tian Junhua, as a leader in bat virus work.

    The coronavirus strain now infecting hundreds of thousands of people globally mutated from bats believed to have infected animals and people at a wild animal market in Wuhan. The exact origin of the virus, however, remains a mystery.


    Reports of the extensive Chinese research on bat viruses likely will fuel more calls for Beijing to make public what it knows about such work.

    “This is one of the worst cover-ups in human history, and now the world is facing a global pandemic,” Rep. Michael T. McCaul, Texas Republican and ranking member of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, said last week. Mr. McCaul has said China should be held accountable for the pandemic.

    A video posted online in December and funded by the Chinese government shows Mr. Tian inside caves in Hubei province taking samples from captured bats and storing them in vials.

    “I am not a doctor, but I work to cure and save people,” Mr. Tian says in the video. “I am not a soldier, but I work to safeguard an invisible national defense line.”

    Chinese officials have said the virus likely spread from wild animals to people at Wuhan’s Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market, not far from the Wuhan Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), the national center for China’s bat virus research.

    Wuhan is finally stirring back to life after a harsh crackdown on travel and street activity was imposed in late January. The city’s bus, subway and train systems started to run again over the weekend. Shops downtown were operating with some restrictions Monday, although customers were scarce.


    But British news accounts also reported over the weekend that some of the stalls at China’s so-called “wet” wild animal markets, as they reopen, have begun once again selling bats and scorpions and resumed questionable practices such as slaughtering small animals right at the site.

    Chinese officials refused to provide samples of its coronavirus strains to U.S. researchers shortly after the outbreak became public and did not allow international disease specialists to visit Wuhan for weeks.

    Handling bats

    The Chinese video “Youth in the Wild — Invisible Defender” records researchers engaged in casual handling of bats containing deadly viruses.

    The seven-minute film boasts that China has “taken the lead” in global virus research and uncovered over 2,000 viruses in the past 12 years, the time since the outbreak of the bat-origin virus that causes severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS).

    The deadly virus behind the current pandemic is called SARS Coronavirus-2 and also has been traced to bats.

    Prior to China’s discoveries, an estimated 2,284 types of viruses had been found in the previous 200 years, the video says.

    Chinese state media outlets revealed that Mr. Tian once failed to wear protective gear in a cave and as a result came into contact with bat urine. To avoid contracting a disease, he self-quarantined for 14 days — the same recommended period for people exposed to the new COVID-19 strain.

    Mr. Tian works for the office of decontamination and biological disease vector prevention and control within the Wuhan CDC. According to a May 2017 report by the Wuhan Evening News, Mr. Tian has gathered thousands of bats for research work on bat viruses since 2012.

    “Bats have a large number of unknown viruses on their bodies,” he said. “The more thorough our research on bats is, the better it will be for human health.”

    The researcher also has gathered viruses from ticks, mice and wasps.

    After the incident exposing him to bat urine, Mr. Tian said, he kept a safe distance from his wife. “As long as I am not getting sick during the incubation period of 14 days, I can be lucky to get away with it,” he said.

    The Wuhan report said the collection of research samples was difficult, dangerous and hard to fund.

    Shenzhen News, a publication of the Guangdong Communist Youth League, described in December how Mr. Tian shuttled through caves and jungles looking for viruses in bats and ticks, called “vector organisms,” in the quest to develop vaccines. The report said the nearly 2,000 viruses discovered in China over the past 12 years nearly doubled the total number of known viruses.

    A search of the Wuhan CDC website since the novel coronavirus outbreak contains no reference to Mr. Tian or his work. He has co-authored at least two scientific studies on the Wuhan virus and its impact.

    Efforts to reach Mr. Tian were not successful.

    A spokesman for the Chinese Embassy in Washington did not return an email seeking comment.

    U.S. concerns

    A State Department official said the reports about Mr. Tian and his role in working with bat viruses are concerning.

    “He lives and works at Wuhan’s CDC, a few hundred yards away from the Huanan wet market,” the official said. “He is among the small team in Wuhan that has contributed to China’s obsession in recent years with virus hunting and research.”

    Some U.S. and international scientists have dismissed reports linking the new virus to one of China’s research labs. They insist the virus jumped naturally to humans and then began spreading from person to person.

    But others say a growing body of evidence indicates the virus may have been under study in a Chinese laboratory and escaped, either through an infection of a worker or through an infected lab animal.

    Biosecurity researcher Richard Ebright, a Rutgers University professor at the Waksman Institute of Microbiology, said the coronavirus behind the pandemic is 96.2% similar to a bat virus discovered by the Wuhan Institute of Virology in 2013 and studied at the Wuhan CDC. The virus could have jumped naturally from animal to human but also could have escaped from the lab, he said.

    “Bat coronaviruses are collected and studied by laboratories in multiple parts of China — including Wuhan Municipal CDC and Wuhan Institute of Virology,” he told The Washington Times. “Therefore, the first human infection also could have occurred as a laboratory accident.”

    Until the recent outbreak, all but two coronaviruses in China were studied at biosafety level-2 (BSL-2) facilities — not the high-security BSL-4 laboratory at the Wuhan Institute of Virology — “which provides only minimal protections against infection of lab workers,” he said.

    “Virus collection, culture, isolation or animal infection at BSL-2 with a virus having the transmission characteristics of the outbreak virus would pose high risk of accidental infection of a lab worker, and from the lab worker, the public,” he said.

    Mr. Ebright said the Chinese video shows Wuhan CDC workers under Mr. Tian’s direction with inadequate personal protective equipment and unsafe practices, including exposed faces and wrists and a lack of goggles or face shields.

    Such practices “would pose substantial risk of infection with a virus having transmission properties similar to those of the outbreak virus,” he said.

    Mr. Ebright said the 2017 news report and 2019 video suggest several possibilities of accidental infection. They include accidental exposure in caves or field laboratories by those without proper protection, accidental infection during transit from caves or field laboratories, accidental infection inside the Wuhan CDC lab because of poor security, and accidental infection during shared work between the Wuhan CDC and the Wuhan Institute of Virology because of inadequate security at the CDC.

    Kenneth Plante, associate director at the World Reference Center for Emerging Viruses and Arboviruses at the University of Texas Medical Branch in Galveston, said he doubted the new virus came from a laboratory.


    “There’s a lot of conspiracy theories that this came out of a biocontainment facility and things of that sort,” he said last week. “But these viruses are closely related to bats. The actual mechanism of the reemergence of this virus was actually hypothesized back during the original SARS coronavirus,” he said.

    But Steven W. Mosher, a China specialist with the Population Research Institute, said China for years has been doing research, detailed in scientific journals, on horseshoe bat coronaviruses that could be harmful to humans.

    “They write about collecting SARS-like coronaviruses from horseshoe bats and proving that, like the SARS virus itself, some of these other naturally occurring coronaviruses could infect human beings directly,” Mr. Mosher said. “They write about genetically engineering new and deadly viruses capable of infecting human lung tissue — just like the Wuhan flu does.”

    Mr. Mosher called the Chinese government to disclose the research to help health officials cope with the coronavirus pandemic.

    “China claims that the deadly virus did not escape from its biolab,” Mr. Mosher said. “Fine. Prove it by releasing the research records of the Wuhan lab.”
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    Good post, OP. More alarming information on our enemy, China:


    FBI Report Describes China’s ‘Biosecurity Risk’

    In late November 2018, just over a year before the first coronavirus case was identified in Wuhan, China, U.S. Customs and Border Protection agents at Detroit Metro Airport stopped a Chinese biologist with three vials labeled “Antibodies” in his luggage.

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    The immense effort China did to cover this up is the only reason I could believe this was a bioweapon that they fumbled
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    Engineered bat virus stirs debate over risky research

    Lab-made coronavirus related to SARS can infect human cells.

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    Go ahead and copy paste look up the followin items

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    Yes, CCP is the enemy of humanity, freedom, democracy, and justice.

    CCP is 110% to blame for this Wuhan CCP Chinese virus, period.

    CCP will be remember as one of the evilest regimes ever ruled a country.
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    You can't say it's Chinese bro, that's ray cyst. Wtf is wrong with you..
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    Originally Posted by Suit View Post
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    We are talking about actual evidence and facts. Not conspiracy theories.

    You can put your foil hat back on now.
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    Originally Posted by Suit View Post
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    Yep. This is all an exercise by Bill Gates' Foundation and John Hopkins University to see how they can contain an epidemic, no matter the cost or actual severity of it.
    Also, this could be Bill Gate's excuse to get everyone microchipped (he's a big proponent of it).
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    Originally Posted by Jasonw1178 View Post
    We are talking about actual evidence and facts. Not conspiracy theories.

    You can put your foil hat back on now.
    When you shut down the world economies over something that's not any more fatal than the seasonal flu, you begin to wonder what the motives are. It's one thing if the mortality rate was 9-40%, but that clearly isn't the case here.
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    You can't say it's Chinese bro, that's ray cyst. Wtf is wrong with you..
    You obviously don't know how to cook bat, Bushy

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    It comes from China.... Chi-na
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    Whatever the origin I just know its from CHINA, and ill do everything in my power to never buy anything made in China again.
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    I have no doubt they were studying this virus, and it certainly could have escaped from the lab, but I don't think there's any chance they were actively weaponizing a virus that in every other thread everyone is saying is no worse than a flu that only kills old and unhealthy people with a total mortality of 0.1%. What kind of military value does that have?
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    Originally Posted by Jasonw1178 View Post
    We are talking about actual evidence and facts. Not conspiracy theories.

    You can put your foil hat back on now.
    You have zero argument for the substance of what I posted, just name calling and dismissal.

    That is an argumentative fallacy that people use when they are in strict denial of events occurring directly in front of them with all the information available.
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    Originally Posted by Jayarbie View Post
    I have no doubt they were studying this virus, and it certainly could have escaped from the lab, but I don't think there's any chance they were actively weaponizing a virus that in every other thread everyone is saying is no worse than a flu that only kills old and unhealthy people with a total mortality of 0.1%. What kind of military value does that have?
    The goal of a weaponized virus is to slow the response as much as possible to maximized the infected. Having a high mortality rate would defeat that purpose
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    Originally Posted by Jasonw1178 View Post
    We are talking about actual evidence and facts. Not conspiracy theories.

    You can put your foil hat back on now.
    And yet up right up until someone just posted that article from an approved MSM source, you would have called it a conspiracy theory to suggest that this virus was grown in a Chinese lab in Wuhan too.

    How about some skepticism of the official narrative a bit there pal? Especially given the track record of the MSM to try and cover things up when they decide its not politically correct to report inconvenient facts?

    I get it, calling everyone a conspiracy theorist helps your brain think that its basking in the warm glow of social approval for being smarter and more rational than everyone else. You must have an impressive Facebook and Reddit posting career
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    How do you people latch on to this chit?

    This version jumped from bats 40-70 years ago into an intermediate unknown animal.

    There are a lot of biological research facilities all over the world. If they were trying to develop a weapon they probably would have started with something they KNEW would work on humans.
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    Originally Posted by Austanian View Post
    If they were trying to develop a weapon they probably would have started with something they KNEW would work on humans.
    Obviously Covid is not working on humans yet.
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    inb4 the leftists here predictably say "lol @ CT shills".

    If you don't believe that China deliberately did this then I have beach front property in the Mojave to sell you.
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    Originally Posted by Clownworld69 View Post
    Obviously Covid is not working on humans yet.
    Damn wincel, didn't take long after your permaban to hop on the alts.
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    Red flags to me: liberal commie loving media doing everything it can to point attention away from china
    Biolab vicinity
    Recent history of working on similar viruses
    Hundreds (thousands?) of years eating these animals but this just coincidentally happens with these other red flags

    Nothing definitive but certainly enough to be skeptical
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    Originally Posted by ymer View Post
    The immense effort China did to cover this up is the only reason I could believe this was a bioweapon that they fumbled
    Completely believe CCP lied and covered up the pandemic, but the virus is not a bioweapon. Scientific studies disprove this.
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    Originally Posted by Austanian View Post
    How do you people latch on to this chit?

    This version jumped from bats 40-70 years ago into an intermediate unknown animal.

    There are a lot of biological research facilities all over the world. If they were trying to develop a weapon they probably would have started with something they KNEW would work on humans.
    Except they did at the Wuhan Virology lab, long ago. Just because the prop... I mean news doesn't cover it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Google Smith-Mundt Act 2012, allowing the dissemination of propaganda within the USA.

    Go to the Justice gov website below and read what Dr. Lieber was doing and what he helped build in a certain country.

    They started Corona research in 2005, likely sooner -

    https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/20....676L/abstract
    https://science.sciencemag.org/content/310/5748/676
    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16195424/

    Then what happened in 2015?

    https://www.nature.com/news/engineer...TWT_NatureNews
    https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...-coronavirus1/

    A team from the Institute engineered a hybrid virus, combining a bat coronavirus with a SARS virus that had been adapted to grow in mice and mimic human disease. The hybrid virus was able to infect human cells.

    Quit being afraid of learning on your own. Spoon fed bull**** you believe, denial of evidence because it sounds so ****ing outrageous it couldn't be true, till it was.


    Heres POS Gates, from the horses ****ing mouth defendin China as well.

    https://techcrunch.com/2020/03/18/bi...-hopes-in-ama/

    Here is his AMA literally saying they want to inject us and track us lmao https://i.redd.it/ixbanmtdiin41.png

    Can anyone tell me what authority a man who has no degree or experience in virology and that stole his "invention" has? Anyone?

    Originally Posted by Clownworld69 View Post
    And yet up right up until someone just posted that article from an approved MSM source, you would have called it a conspiracy theory to suggest that this virus was grown in a Chinese lab in Wuhan too.

    How about some skepticism of the official narrative a bit there pal? Especially given the track record of the MSM to try and cover things up when they decide its not politically correct to report inconvenient facts?

    I get it, calling everyone a conspiracy theorist helps your brain think that its basking in the warm glow of social approval for being smarter and more rational than everyone else. You must have an impressive Facebook and Reddit posting career
    He wouldn't even google the first link.

    https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/harva...-china-related
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    Originally Posted by Suit View Post
    Except they did at the Wuhan Virology lab, long ago. Just because the prop... I mean news doesn't cover it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Google Smith-Mundt Act 2012, allowing the dissemination of propaganda within the USA.

    Go to the Justice gov website below and read what Dr. Lieber was doing and what he helped build in a certain country.

    They started Corona research in 2005, likely sooner -

    https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/20....676L/abstract
    https://science.sciencemag.org/content/310/5748/676
    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16195424/

    Then what happened in 2015?

    https://www.nature.com/news/engineer...TWT_NatureNews
    https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...-coronavirus1/

    A team from the Institute engineered a hybrid virus, combining a bat coronavirus with a SARS virus that had been adapted to grow in mice and mimic human disease. The hybrid virus was able to infect human cells.

    Quit being afraid of learning on your own. Spoon fed bull**** you believe, denial of evidence because it sounds so ****ing outrageous it couldn't be true, till it was.



    He wouldn't even google the first link.

    https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/harva...-china-related
    From your very sources:

    Editors’ note, March 2020: We are aware that this story is being used as the basis for unverified theories that the novel coronavirus causing COVID-19 was engineered. There is no evidence that this is true; scientists believe that an animal is the most likely source of the coronavirus.
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    Originally Posted by Lolip0p View Post
    The goal of a weaponized virus is to slow the response as much as possible to maximized the infected. Having a high mortality rate would defeat that purpose
    Wouldn’t it be counterintuitive if the infected enemy infects China?
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    Originally Posted by Austanian View Post
    From your very sources:

    Editors’ note, March 2020: We are aware that this story is being used as the basis for unverified theories that the novel coronavirus causing COVID-19 was engineered. There is no evidence that this is true; scientists believe that an animal is the most likely source of the coronavirus.
    Oh oh oh let me strawman by picking something a journalist said on their own in ONE of those sources instead of the mountain of research and evidence I just gave you.

    Absolute denial of evidence in front of you. Denialism is a bitch to conquer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denialism

    The motivations and causes of denialism include religion, self-interest (economic, political, or financial), and defence mechanisms meant to protect the psyche of the denialist against mentally disturbing facts and ideas.

    It hurts to break the propaganda, because this **** is disturbing as ****.
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    China only had 80k cases in a city of 11 million guys. And only 3k of those died. China hasnt had ONE new case in weeks...nothing to see here...ghuys.
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    Is it possible it escaped from a lab? Sure...but nothing posted really proves that and is equally plausible the reason they have scientists studying bat viruses in Wuhan is because they know their citizens are gross bat eaters.
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    china needs pay for this, they need to come clean and tell everybody all that they know about this virus, relinquish all their info, and stop withholding data on the number of cases they have

    imagine some biomedical lab in some poverty city unleashing a virus and sweeping the world, imagine still eating bats after what htis has done that have 2001 different viruses, god knows what more fuked up chit goes on there.
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