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    Originally Posted by _AdaM_ View Post
    Surely hospitals are now free for Covid 19 sufferers?
    The panicels screaming about #flatteningthecurve and #staying home warning us about overloading the healthcare system while attacking trump, are the very ones who support socialized medicine.

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    Originally Posted by wincel View Post
    And this is just the beginning. We are gonna need emergency hospitals built and massive amounts of ventilators and other chit. It's going to get really bad within the month.

    What this virus really shows is nobody appreciates exponential growth. Climate change is this exact same problem on a longer timescale. The resource exhaustion issue is another. We need people to be literate and aware of how growth works. We need to be prepared for what is coming. Not just covid, but far worse challenges lie in the future of mankind.
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    Originally Posted by SportCoat View Post
    covid is real, but i'm not sure the media is accurately portraying it.

    that said, all the videos in this thread don't really show what is going on. it's just a few seconds of random hospital clips then a cut to someone telling me what is going on. i dont want someone to tell me, just show me what is going on (and blur out the patients face for privacy) and i'll decide for myself how bad it is. i'd like to see the how a patient is treated with covid but all these videos are bs.
    Here are a few.

    Patient goes into cardiac arrest.



    Patient with mild symptoms hospitalized, likely for mild hypoxia, but otherwise pretty stable. She recovered.



    Critically ill patient in the ICU for weeks, now with a tracheostomy and on ECMO. They're turning him prone to improve his lung function.



    Intubation teams in Wuhan



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    Infectious diseases doc from UAB with COVID-19 detailing his experiences

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    Originally Posted by wincel View Post
    To be fair, Trump really was horribly irresponsible for spreading the rhetoric that this was no big deal.
    Bull****. If he downplayed it you'd **** on him for that. If he overhyped it you'd claim he was fomenting panic. You people are absolute hypocrites.

    The MSM downplayed it before Trump did, claiming if you were prepping or otherwise taking it seriously that you needed to "get a grip" because the flu was worse. This is the same media that called the virus "The Chinese Virus" or the "Wuhan Virus/Flu" until Trump called it the same thing, then they proceeded to claim that was "racist". I guess that means the MSM is racist?
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    Originally Posted by InstantLoser View Post
    Bull****. If he downplayed it you'd **** on him for that. If he overhyped it you'd claim he was fomenting panic. You people are absolute hypocrites.
    Nope. If he went hardcore, I wouldn't have faulted him for it. I thought his travel ban on China was the right move. His European travel ban was kind of bungled, but it was still the right move. But he shouldn't have been downplaying COVID-19 before he declared a national emergency.

    Maybe he didn't want people to panic. It may be just me, but I like people to give me the straight facts with no sugarcoating. After you give me the facts, I'll figure out how to respond to it.
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    Originally Posted by MakeABanana View Post
    Nope. If he went hardcore, I wouldn't have faulted him for it.
    Going "hardcore" prematurely could/would have nuked the markets (not that that didn't happen anyway) without knowing the severity of the situation. The idea was to not create an undue panic. That's what a leader is supposed to do; Quell fears.

    Originally Posted by MakeABanana View Post
    I thought his travel ban on China was the right move. His European travel ban was kind of bungled, but it was still the right move.
    Fair enough.

    Originally Posted by MakeABanana View Post
    But he shouldn't have been downplaying COVID-19 before he declared a national emergency.

    Maybe he didn't want people to panic. It may be just me, but I like people to give me the straight facts with no sugarcoating. After you give me the facts, I'll figure out how to respond to it.
    You kind of address your own point here. He'd be damned if he did, and damned if he didn't. There's no way to please everyone.. He was trying to assuage fears so as to avoid people panic buying, etc in an effort to avoid fukcing up the stock market. Once it became evident that things were out of hand, he took decisive action.

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    Originally Posted by InstantLoser View Post
    Going "hardcore" prematurely could/would have nuked the markets (not that that didn't happen anyway) without knowing the severity of the situation. The idea was to not create an undue panic. That's what a leader is supposed to do; Quell fears.



    Fair enough.



    You kind of address your own point here. He'd be damned if he did, and damned if he didn't. There's no way to please everyone.. He was trying to assuage fears so as to avoid people panic buying, etc in an effort to avoid fukcing up the stock market. Once it became evident that things were out of hand, he took decisive action.

    Could he have acted sooner? Yes. Hindsight is 20/20.
    I think we can all agree that Trump is in a really ****ty spot. I don't envy his current position.

    I do agree with "damned if he does, damned if he doesn't" dilemma. Something's gotta give and sacrifices have to be made.
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    Doesn't look any worse then when a really bad flu comes through to be honest.
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    Hyperventilating - check
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    Originally Posted by wincel View Post
    And this is just the beginning. We are gonna need emergency hospitals built and massive amounts of ventilators and other chit. It's going to get really bad within the month.

    What this virus really shows is nobody appreciates exponential growth. Climate change is this exact same problem on a longer timescale. The resource exhaustion issue is another. We need people to be literate and aware of how growth works. We need to be prepared for what is coming. Not just covid, but far worse challenges lie in the future of mankind.
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    Originally Posted by wincel View Post
    To be fair, Trump really was horribly irresponsible for spreading the rhetoric that this was no big deal.
    Its a horrible ordeal and everyones gonna die

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    Isn't it some kind of privacy violation or ethics violation for filming inside a hospital and putting it out on Youtube?
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    Friends wife is a big wig nurse, said most
    Is media bs and everyone needs to stop acting nuts.


    Doesnt fit the media narrative tho, right?

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    Patient with mild symptoms hospitalized, likely for mild hypoxia, but otherwise pretty stable. She recovered.


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    Isn't it some kind of privacy violation or ethics violation for filming inside a hospital and putting it out on Youtube?
    Without prior authorization, yes. Prior authorization was most likely obtained.

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    why did they put an A-line in her?...
    I had the same question, too! I did a double-take. An A-line sounds a little aggressive.
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    id make this virus my bitch in like 2 and a half days.


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    So these doctors don’t care about hippa? Weird
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    production quality too high to be a real "leaked" insider video. sh!t was staged, had a director and a producer and probably a script writer. get this fake chit out mah face
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    People dying by the minute we need ventilators asap

    look here's 5 ventilators sitting in a hallway still wrapped in plastic doing nothing

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    Originally Posted by Tomohokk View Post
    The panicels screaming about #flatteningthecurve and #staying home warning us about overloading the healthcare system while attacking trump, are the very ones who support socialized medicine.

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    Why does socialism have to constantly bail out capitalism? See:trillions in bailouts for Wall Street.
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    Originally Posted by Jessejame5 View Post
    People dying by the minute we need ventilators asap

    look here's 5 ventilators sitting in a hallway still wrapped in plastic doing nothing

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    Hmm, it's called planning before you run out.

    Think of it like an emergency fund (I know many Miscers find saving money to be a foreign concept). If you have an unexpected cost, or even better, an inevitable large cost coming soon, is it not a good idea to save money to account for that?
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    Originally Posted by MakeABanana View Post
    Hmm, it's called planning before you run out.
    why not just sanitize the ones they already use?
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    Why does socialism have to constantly bail out capitalism? See:trillions in bailouts for Wall Street.
    So your idea of socialism is the government shutting down the economy, (edit) printing money out of thin air, and paying people to not be productive? Interesting...
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    Originally Posted by exxtracool View Post
    why not just sanitize the ones they already use?
    I'm not sure I follow.

    The hospital is running out ventilators because the number of cases keeps increasing day by day. A lot of these patients stay on these ventilators for a prolonged length of time, like a week, for example. If one of these patients die, then sure, the ventilator will be sanitized and used for the next patient. But when the rate of patients needing a ventilator is greater than the rate of patients dying, then you simply need more ventilators.

    Either that, or you start doing crazy stuff like trying to split a ventilator among multiple patients--something that a joint statement by multiple medical societies has not recommended for a multitude of legitimate reasons--or you simply have to start rationing resources, meaning someone who's too ill and likely to have a grim prognosis will not be offered ventilation in favor of someone who has a better chance.
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