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    Wasn't as many world wide cases

    Covid 19 is in most countries
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    We weren't at nearly the same level of general insanity. Compare how much reality is being denied now compared to even 5 years ago. Trannies weren't even a thing. You could state that men weren't exactly equal to women. People weren't in a hysteria to try and stop a man whose entire raison d'etre is that he speaks the truth when everybody else is lying to your face.

    It's actually not surprising that we'd see a media trying to scare people to death, or destroy people's small businesses, or deny life-saving drugs just to make themselves look good and their enemies bad. That we'd see hopeful incels, progressives, and other losers following in step as they hope for a big happening.

    People are competing harder and harder to look like they are virtuous, including suggesting that a complete shutdown of everybody's livelihoods is worth saving a few lives. They would remove all liberties and force businesses closed in order to ensure that nobody thinks they don't care about people. Nobody wants to be the ******* who is willing to come out and say "listen, some people are gonna die, but not really that many, let's just continue on as usual". Trump is trying, but they have taken to actively sabotaging his efforts, and banning effective things that he suggests, like Hydrochloroquine.

    This could never have happened in the era of the last disease outbreaks.
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    Originally Posted by yewotm8 View Post
    We weren't at nearly the same level of general insanity. Compare how much reality is being denied now compared to even 5 years ago. Trannies weren't even a thing. You could state that men weren't exactly equal to women. People weren't in a hysteria to try and stop a man whose entire raison d'etre is that he speaks the truth when everybody else is lying to your face.

    It's actually not surprising that we'd see a media trying to scare people to death, or destroy people's small businesses, or deny life-saving drugs just to make themselves look good and their enemies bad. That we'd see hopeful incels, progressives, and other losers following in step as they hope for a big happening.

    People are competing harder and harder to look like they are virtuous, including suggesting that a complete shutdown of everybody's livelihoods is worth saving a few lives. They would remove all liberties and force businesses closed in order to ensure that nobody thinks they don't care about people. Nobody wants to be the ******* who is willing to come out and say "listen, some people are gonna die, but not really that many, let's just continue on as usual". Trump is trying, but they have taken to actively sabotaging his efforts, and banning effective things that he suggests, like Hydrochloroquine.

    This could never have happened in the era of the last disease outbreaks.
    Damn
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    Originally Posted by volkan96 View Post
    Maybe the goverments around the world know something the public doesnt and dont want to spread panic as it would just make things worse.
    The recovery rate is very low compared to the overall infected rate, people are not getting over it like a normal flu, the problems this can cause are likely to be permanent, the result is likely to be permanent damage to your lungs or death, the odds of beating it with no lasting affects are very low.

    Here is the proof

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

    Notice the low recovery rate, that number should be much higher at this point.
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    Originally Posted by yewotm8 View Post
    We weren't at nearly the same level of general insanity. Compare how much reality is being denied now compared to even 5 years ago. Trannies weren't even a thing. You could state that men weren't exactly equal to women. People weren't in a hysteria to try and stop a man whose entire raison d'etre is that he speaks the truth when everybody else is lying to your face.

    It's actually not surprising that we'd see a media trying to scare people to death, or destroy people's small businesses, or deny life-saving drugs just to make themselves look good and their enemies bad. That we'd see hopeful incels, progressives, and other losers following in step as they hope for a big happening.

    People are competing harder and harder to look like they are virtuous, including suggesting that a complete shutdown of everybody's livelihoods is worth saving a few lives. They would remove all liberties and force businesses closed in order to ensure that nobody thinks they don't care about people. Nobody wants to be the ******* who is willing to come out and say "listen, some people are gonna die, but not really that many, let's just continue on as usual". Trump is trying, but they have taken to actively sabotaging his efforts, and banning effective things that he suggests, like Hydrochloroquine.

    This could never have happened in the era of the last disease outbreaks.
    This is why H.R.5736 - Smith-Mundt Modernization Act of 2012 https://www.congress.gov/bill/112th-...ouse-bill/5736

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    Originally Posted by inspectionstare View Post
    Average human wasn’t on the internet all day. That’s why.
    this, and cell phones etc..
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    The conclusion I’ve come to is that the average American (or other first world countries for that matter) have it so good, are so soft, and so far removed from actual reality that many of them actually look for things to be afraid of. This new virus is not good by any stretch but if you watch the news or get on social media sites you’ll be led to believe an actual zombie apocalypse is occurring. More than anything this entire fiasco has shown me just how absolutely retarded and incapable the average American is.
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    Mandating vaccines and more government control.

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    https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden...-estimates.htm

    24,000 – 62,000 flu deaths
    57% of flus tested are type A
    93% of those are H1N1

    So H1N1 has killed like 20k+ people in the US so far this season? That's double 2009 with no media coverage. What am I missing?
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    Covid 19 is way more contagious. Its infected over 800,000 people already
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    the Chinese spread it in Toronto. it was a very scary time. srs. scarier than right now.
    Seems like the common denominator is always China . How I wish we could make them accountable for this nightmare .
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    They are trying to generate a recession to make Trump lose.


    Years ago I would have said this was a crazy statement. Now I fully believe it.


    They hate Trump because of what he represents. That poor rural white people can choose who is in power. Nothing the elites despise more than realizing their desires can be halted by the will of the people.


    Thats why those of you who hate Trump might be the lamest countrymen we have seen in a long time. I have no respect for you. Status quo wh0res who would do whatever the media and establishment tell them.

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    1.) A democrat was POTUS
    2.) USA was still in a recession
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    Covid 19 is way more contagious. Its infected over 800,000 people already
    H1N1 infected a billion people
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    But back then people got their news once a day in the paper or the 6 o'clock news. They didn't have this 24/7 news cycle going on.

    Then 2012 happened and everything changed
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    Luck-SARS had a high death rate & would have been worse if that had spread. Most likely more & more people travelling is the reason why we have seen this outbreak spread as far as it has compared to the 2000's. In future people are going to have to make the decision not to travel to Asia-especially China if they don't want this thing to bring their countries/the world to its knees, because China is not going to change the way it behaves & nor is Asia generally-they have been responsible for the vast majority of these pandemics over the decades.
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    Because this didn't happen from those diseases.

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    Originally Posted by TimeTravelerBro View Post
    Covid 19 is way more contagious. Its infected over 800,000 people already
    Not quite. Well, officially. We all know china is lying about no new cases. 723,279 cases, 33, 339 deaths worldwide so far
    Originally Posted by hotsaucebrah View Post
    H1N1 infected a billion people

    H1N1 deaths: 284k worlwide Deaths (april 2009-April 2010) 18,500 (so 6166 deaths in the first 4 months. I couldnt find the actual numbers

    COVID19: December 2019-March 30 2020
    723,279 cases with 33,339 deaths

    COVID is killing more people, but this could be attributed to it mainly hitting older people and people with immune system compromises where as H1N1 mostly hit younger people
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    Originally Posted by tank2003 View Post
    Not quite. Well, officially. We all know china is lying about no new cases. 723,279 cases, 33, 339 deaths worldwide so far


    H1N1 deaths: 284k worlwide Deaths (april 2009-April 2010) 18,500 (so 6166 deaths in the first 4 months. I couldnt find the actual numbers

    COVID19: December 2019-March 30 2020
    723,279 cases with 33,339 deaths

    COVID is killing more people, but this could be attributed to it mainly hitting older people and people with immune system compromises where as H1N1 mostly hit younger people

    H1N1 hit younger people because older people had herd immunities from previous H1N1 outbreaks. Infact, all H1N1 outbreaks after 1918 had some herd immunity.

    since a couple real bright miscers seem to think that because 2008/2009 was a novel strain that the immunity doesn't apply.

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    Originally Posted by tank2003 View Post
    Not quite. Well, officially. We all know china is lying about no new cases. 723,279 cases, 33, 339 deaths worldwide so far


    H1N1 deaths: 284k worlwide Deaths (april 2009-April 2010) 18,500 (so 6166 deaths in the first 4 months. I couldnt find the actual numbers

    COVID19: December 2019-March 30 2020
    723,279 cases with 33,339 deaths

    COVID is killing more people, but this could be attributed to it mainly hitting older people and people with immune system compromises where as H1N1 mostly hit younger people
    I think the corona numbers are low estimates, tbh. They are not taking into consideration how many contracted it but didn't need testing/hospitalization or even show symptoms. I think those numbers will be revised later when we have more data and the mortality rate will come down drastically.
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    Originally Posted by A-GAME View Post
    I think the corona numbers are low estimates, tbh. They are not taking into consideration how many contracted it but didn't need testing/hospitalization or even show symptoms. I think those numbers will be revised later when we have more data and the mortality rate will come down drastically.
    The mortality numbers coming down doesn't change the reality of overloaded hospitals and full morgues.

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    This one dimensional thinking “Is the MSM exaggerating this, or is it just the flu” bs needs to stop.

    BOTH can be true at the same time. Just look at the ****ing data, Covid-19 has a perfect mix of incubation, viral shedding, R0 and fatality rate, to warrant the restrictive actions. And the MSM will jump on this also to try hurt Trump. Nothing new.

    However, we also need to face the reality of economic suffering, a global depression, suicides etc, and weigh it up against virus deaths. It sucks but there will need to be some trade off here after the curve flattens and we get hospital loads under control, unless a vaccine magically appears.

    Continuing to maximize purely to minimize all covid deaths is poor logic. If that were the case, we’d ban cars, planes and anything else that bears risk.
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    Originally Posted by Luc1fer View Post
    This one dimensional thinking “Is the MSM exaggerating this, or is it just the flu” bs needs to stop.

    BOTH can be true at the same time. Just look at the ****ing data, Covid-19 has a perfect mix of incubation, viral shedding, R0 and fatality rate, to warrant the restrictive actions. And the MSM will jump on this also to try hurt Trump. Nothing new.

    However, we also need to face the reality of economic suffering, a global depression, suicides etc, and weigh it up against virus deaths. It sucks but there will need to be some trade off here after the curve flattens and we get hospital loads under control, unless a vaccine magically appears.

    Maximizing purely to minimize covid deaths is awful logic. If that we’re the case, we’d ban cars, planes and anything else that bears risk.
    Restrictions are not permanent. They are to slow it down so hospitals can manage until a treatment/cure/vaccine is invented.
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    Originally Posted by A-GAME View Post
    I think the corona numbers are low estimates, tbh. They are not taking into consideration how many contracted it but didn't need testing/hospitalization or even show symptoms. I think those numbers will be revised later when we have more data and the mortality rate will come down drastically.
    well, we all know that china is lying about their cases. But also (i cant remember who said this or where the numbers came from) health officials said that the total case numbers had to be adjusted (down) by 1.5 million. This was right aroudn the time CNN said they were going to stop covering the daily white house breifings regarding covid
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    Originally Posted by NicholasMango View Post
    Restrictions are not permanent. They are to slow it down so hospitals can manage until a treatment/cure/vaccine is invented.
    Quarantine should have been restricted to 70+ and those with certain ailments.

    Reduces the number of people killed + keeps things running.

    The age bracket for quarantine can be adjusted by the daily/weekly growth in hospitalisation + capacity.
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    Originally Posted by Serenadium View Post
    Quarantine should have been restricted to 70+ and those with certain ailments.

    Reduces the number of people killed + keeps things running.

    The age bracket for quarantine can be adjusted by the daily/weekly growth in hospitalisation + capacity.
    If you let all the young people out they will infect all the old when they go to take care of them.


    The majority of hospitalizations now are people under the age of 50. (I'll post the source on this as soon as I find this again.)

    Even if 0 elderly were infected, what about smokers? cancer patients?

    What happens when you get into a car accident and the ICU is full of COVID-19 patients?

    The answer is that you die.



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    Some quick maths. ages 20-64 account for 63.8% of cases. And about 20% of those will require hospitalization.


    If we do 0 containment in this age group (The majority of the us population) we can expect about 70% of them to get sick.

    Lets say only a third of the USA is in this age group (its far closer to double that.)

    thats 109 million cases. 20% of which require hospitalization or 21,813,333 hospitalizations.
    We have 924,107 hospital beds.


    You see the problem with letting all the young people out to play?
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    THats interdasting if it is US data.

    Does the US do triaging like some other countries? i.e. we are prioritising young folks over older folk who are too far gone, or won't live much longer anyway.
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