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    Originally Posted by Rabbitjb View Post
    Social distancing means not leaving your homes apart from essential, local trips for specific reasons

    Country wide. That will slow spread

    Quarantine won’t ..you're armed and believe in “freedom”. Civil unrest is the last thing you need.
    NYers aren't practicing social distancing, they're literally are not giving a fuk, and deciding to go do the same in other states on top of it all. The country is doing really well so far...NY isn't.

    We just had NYers screaming for every possible resource in their state to slow things the past few weeks, but they won't do sh!t to help prevent the spread to other states.
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    Originally Posted by TaeBoNinja View Post
    NYers aren't practicing social distancing, they're literally are not giving a fuk, and deciding to go do the same in other states on top of it all. The country is doing really well so far...NY isn't.

    We just had NYers screaming for every possible resource in their state to slow things the past few weeks, but they won't do sh!t to help prevent the spread to other states.
    Because of lack of clarity, class or education?
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    Originally Posted by Rabbitjb View Post
    Because of lack of clarity, class or education?
    Because NYers are selfish to the end. They think the world revolves around them. I have empathy for the state, but don't want them flying to CA and overbudening our healthcare system. Best way to help NY is for people to stay there, and keep giving them the need resources.
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    Originally Posted by Rabbitjb View Post
    But MrMark there’s no such thing as a super-spreader

    There’s a virus

    Without social distancing there will be exponential growth, every single country in the world has seen the same growth curve

    You already have significant cases in every state, and those are just the known, tested cases

    It is absolutely too late to lock down one area. It’s about resource management now
    That is all true, and I think there are two key factors at play that reinforce the need for a location like New York City to be quarantined:

    1) New York City has a very high population density, which makes social distancing technically harder, but that particularly concerns the period during the initial spread before public awareness was appropriately raised. This makes the unknown variable of asymptomatic carriers increase greatly over less populated areas, which in turn raises the likelihood that a person traveling from NYC could be infected and spread the virus wherever they travel.


    2) States are struggling to attain enough resources to treat their own cases already, and the last thing they need is the risk of even greater strain on what limited resources they have due to unregulated travel from an international convergence point and hot zone for COVID-19 infection.

    So while COVID-19 is a statewide issue, the extent of infection, resources available, and capacity to treat patients is not created equal amongst all states, let alone cities within states. Right now, the state quarantines are an effort to reduce the spread and therefore strain on available healthcare and treatment for their own cases, which would be counteracted by the free-flow of denizens from an especially high-risk location like NYC. The same really applies intrinsically for NYC as well because if the rate of infection increases beyond the city's capacity to treat patients, the risk of mortality rises as its own resources become stretched.

    Social distancing is only useful if there are enough people isolating, and quarantines are an inconvenient but undoubtedly effective means to ensure that people only leave for essentials or isolated activities (e.g. walking outside).
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    Lol at everyone bashing on NYC right now.. every other major city is going to get their turn soon enough.
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    Originally Posted by NYPat View Post
    Lol at everyone bashing on NYC right now.. every other major city is going to get their turn soon enough.
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    Originally Posted by brighamw View Post
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    Originally Posted by NYPat View Post
    About?
    No one is 'bashing' NY, they're debating solutions how to stop NY (60%) of cases from needlessly infecting the surrounding states (which they already have), don't take it personally, the same discussion will be had regarding the West coast I'm sure as well, Cali has more land mass, spread apart etc so it may not be an entire state type thing...
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    Originally Posted by brighamw View Post
    No one is 'bashing' NY, they're debating solutions how to stop NY (60%) of cases from needlessly infecting the surrounding states (which they already have), don't take it personally, the same discussion will be had regarding the West coast I'm sure as well, Cali has more land mass, spread apart etc so it may not be an entire state type thing...
    I read most of the thread, a lot of people are trashing New Yorkers because they're ignoring the social distancing and stay at home recommendations etc. All I was saying is every other major city will have the same problem in a few weeks and we'll see the same problems if not worse (depending on the city, New Orleans etc)

    I agree NYC should be locked down. I live upstate and there are a TON of airbnbs renting to people fleeing NYC. They're going to spread this everywhere if they decide not to quarantine for the two weeks they're recommending after getting here. Where I live we have very few confirmed cases.
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    They need to build a wall around New York to stop New Yorkers from seeping into other places. New Yorkers need to stay in New York. Nobody in other places want them.

    They also need to do something to do something about this Covid 19 issue.
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    Originally Posted by Rabbitjb View Post
    But MrMark there’s no such thing as a super-spreader

    There’s a virus

    Without social distancing there will be exponential growth, every single country in the world has seen the same growth curve

    You already have significant cases in every state, and those are just the known, tested cases

    It is absolutely too late to lock down one area. It’s about resource management now
    Well, we agree and we disagree. We agree that we all need to practice social distancing. A lot of us do. But, a lot of us do not. New York is the epicenter of this virus with half of total US cases. I don't see why quarantining NY, NJ and CT would be a bad idea. It prevents people who have the virus and people who potentially have the virus from going to another State and spread.

    Now, we also disagree about super-spreader. The term is often used and it is not a political term. An example is a wedding where there are 45 people and 75% get the virus because 2 of them had it unknowingly. Then, those people went home and spread it in their respective families. That is real.

    Who makes the decision as to when it is too late? And, what would it hurt? We can also implement resource management, as well.
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    Originally Posted by NYPat View Post
    I read most of the thread, a lot of people are trashing New Yorkers because they're ignoring the social distancing and stay at home recommendations etc. All I was saying is every other major city will have the same problem in a few weeks and we'll see the same problems if not worse (depending on the city, New Orleans etc)

    I agree NYC should be locked down. I live upstate and there are a TON of airbnbs renting to people fleeing NYC. They're going to spread this everywhere if they decide not to quarantine for the two weeks they're recommending after getting here. Where I live we have very few confirmed cases.
    Agreed, I have family in Westchester and surrounding areas, they are not pleased with the city, at all...

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    Originally Posted by NYPat View Post
    Lol at everyone bashing on NYC right now.. every other major city is going to get their turn soon enough.
    What % of total confirmed cases does NYC have right now retard
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    What % of total confirmed cases does NYC have right now retard
    Settle down champ, NYC is also testing a fuk ton more than everyone else.
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    Originally Posted by NYPat View Post
    Settle down champ, NYC is also testing a fuk ton more than everyone else.
    NEW YORK HAS NEARLY HALF THE CASES

    123k total cases

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    Originally Posted by NYPat View Post
    I read most of the thread, a lot of people are trashing New Yorkers because they're ignoring the social distancing and stay at home recommendations etc. All I was saying is every other major city will have the same problem in a few weeks and we'll see the same problems if not worse (depending on the city, New Orleans etc)

    I agree NYC should be locked down. I live upstate and there are a TON of airbnbs renting to people fleeing NYC. They're going to spread this everywhere if they decide not to quarantine for the two weeks they're recommending after getting here. Where I live we have very few confirmed cases.
    Yep. Nobody is realizing what is happening in NYC could be their state's major city in 1 week. People aren't paying attention and the exponential nature of this hasn't dawned on them yet.
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    At minimum we should do what Bane did and dynamite the bridges and tunnels, leaving New Yorkers to fend for themselves on their dirty island of disease.
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    Originally Posted by RepealThe19th View Post
    At minimum we should do what Bane did and dynamite the bridges and tunnels, leaving New Yorkers to fend for themselves on their dirty island of disease.
    u realize cov is already in every state right?

    we needed a total lockdown on ny like 2 weeks ago

    tour is fuking over
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    Originally Posted by NYPat View Post
    I read most of the thread, a lot of people are trashing New Yorkers because they're ignoring the social distancing and stay at home recommendations etc. All I was saying is every other major city will have the same problem in a few weeks and we'll see the same problems if not worse (depending on the city, New Orleans etc)

    I agree NYC should be locked down. I live upstate and there are a TON of airbnbs renting to people fleeing NYC. They're going to spread this everywhere if they decide not to quarantine for the two weeks they're recommending after getting here. Where I live we have very few confirmed cases.
    Not really. We had corona before NY. LA county is has the highest population in the country. Difference is Newsome actually did a good job and worked with Trump. Cuomo was too busy playing politics. We've been on lockdown for a while here in So Cal. So much so traffic is wide open, and you can see the stars at night(muhc less air pollution.

    Only way other place become NY, is if we allow NYers to go other places and mess them up. Go look at Nj which is now 11k, or Mass. which had passed CA and Wahsington....all due to NYers fleeing.
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    Originally Posted by NYPat View Post
    Settle down champ, NYC is also testing a fuk ton more than everyone else.
    CA isn't far off in testing, and has a fraction of NY's cases despite being the most populated states in the country
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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    Omg a bigger clown than Ronald McDonald is the president.

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    At least he gave us that super progressive bail reform that 100% did not turn into a raging dumpster fire shortly after
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    Originally Posted by ispy View Post
    Why is Trump backing off on this? I know he doesn't have the authority to force a quarantine, but he needs to keep on Cuomo's back about this.

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    Originally Posted by dabbmw2002 View Post
    So the most effective tool in fighting this virus is a quarantine, yet the people who attack him for not doing enough are the first to say it's not within his power.

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    Originally Posted by John L View Post
    Why is Trump backing off on this? I know he doesn't have the authority to force a quarantine, but he needs to keep on Cuomo's back about this.

    Cuomo is an total embarrassment at this point. A joke.
    I think ingraham expressed her strong opinion against it on Twitter
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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    Lol nope.
    Under section 361 of the Public Health Service Act (42 U.S. Code § 264), the U.S. Secretary of Health and Human Services is authorized to take measures to prevent the entry and spread of communicable diseases from foreign countries into the United States and between states.
    As to if they could enforce this on a city level is not clear but yes the feds can close a states borders.
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    Originally Posted by John L View Post
    Why is Trump backing off on this? I know he doesn't have the authority to force a quarantine, but he needs to keep on Cuomo's back about this.

    Cuomo is an total embarrassment at this point. A joke.
    https://twitter.com/lookner/status/1244076388866502659

    btw, this lookner guy has been shook from a sudden onset of tds for the past few days now.
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    Originally Posted by ispy View Post
    https://twitter.com/lookner/status/1244076388866502659

    btw, this lookner guy has been shook from a sudden onset of tds for the past few days now.
    My guess: Trump made off-the-cuff remark about quarantining these 3 states without clearing it with anyone else, then was told it was illegal/impractical/whatever, then White House had to find a way to avoid an embarrassing retraction, so had CDC issue a toothless advisory
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