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    You know it’s too late for that right?
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    Originally Posted by Rabbitjb View Post
    You know it’s too late for that right?
    Just because it's too late doesn't mean it shouldn't be done. So should Trump open the travel ban since it was too late to do it? Stupidest reasoning ever.
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    Originally Posted by Random260 View Post
    Just because it's too late doesn't mean it shouldn't be done. So should Trump open the travel ban since it was too late to do it? Stupidest reasoning ever.
    It’s too late! we should give up on finding a vaccine too!
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    Originally Posted by Random260 View Post
    Just because it's too late doesn't mean it shouldn't be done. So should Trump open the travel ban since it was too late to do it? Stupidest reasoning ever.
    Why do it then? If it’s not going to help in any way and is going to take military force to enforce, which will drain resources for supporting otherwise. So what’s the point?

    Social exclusion policies to slow the spread statewide so medical resources can try to cope with demand is the only option left really

    Originally Posted by RedPolo View Post
    It’s too late! we should give up on finding a vaccine too!
    LMAO even if a vaccine is found and rushed into production and distribution what timescale do you give it for a national inoculation plan. And will the virus have mutated by then as all coronaviruses do?
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    Originally Posted by Rabbitjb View Post
    Why do it then? If it’s not going to help in any way and is going to take military force to enforce, what’s the point?

    Social exclusion policies to slow the spread statewide so medical resources can try to cope with demand is the only option left really



    It WILL help the rest of the country...
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    I'd rather see the military mobilized to start building as many hospitals as possible. Bring in an aircraft carrier, stock it full of military nurses and doctors and park the bitch near the statue of liberty. That's 1000+ beds right there.
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    Originally Posted by brighamw View Post



    It WILL help the rest of the country...
    Lmfao no it won’t... there are cases in every state, so it’s already too late

    Originally Posted by jackamo2887 View Post
    I'd rather see the military mobilized to start building as many hospitals as possible. Bring in an aircraft carrier, stock it full of military nurses and doctors and park the bitch near the statue of liberty. That's 1000+ beds right there.
    That’s a useful and proactive concept that might actually do some good
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    Originally Posted by jackamo2887 View Post
    I'd rather see the military mobilized to start building as many hospitals as possible. Bring in an aircraft carrier, stock it full of military nurses and doctors and park the bitch near the statue of liberty. That's 1000+ beds right there.

    Have you seen beds on an aircraft carrier? No, seriously, have you?


    In serious news, Trump ordered USNS Mercy and USNS Comfort to deploy to Seattle and NY, so he's already ahead of you.




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    Lmfao no it won’t... there are cases in every state, so it’s already too late



    That’s a useful and proactive concept that might actually do some good
    It's not, and it wouldn't. You're picturing that Aircraft carriers have beds. They don't.






    50% of all US Corona virus cases are in NYC right now. Shutting down travel from/to NYC makes as much sense as continuing shutting down travel to/from Europe and China at this point.
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    Originally Posted by FatBallz View Post
    Imagine if we had that bomb from the movie Outbreak to kill the virus.

    Sorry New York bros, it's for the good of the nation...
    Wasn't that just an H bomb?
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    Originally Posted by JoshSP1985 View Post
    Wasn't that just an H bomb?


    It was a daisy cutter. We have them. It would be a mildly destructive explosion in a localized area. If you wanted to wipe out NYC because of Corona you'd need a nuclear weapon.




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    Originally Posted by John L View Post
    Long Island here, I would support a quarantine. It shouldn't just be one big quarantine though, NYC needs to be quarantined by itself to stop people fleeing from there to eastern Long Island. Then Nassau and Suffolk counties on Long Island will be quarantined by themselves as well.
    I mean... I wouldn't say one big massive quarantine, but NYC and Long Island are almost tied to the hip. Hell, Queens and Brooklyn are on Long Island. And a lot of people who work essential jobs in NYC live on Long Island, NJ, Westchester, etc., so we actually need them to commute in and out of the city. There is no silver bullet solution, but if it were me, I would quarantine NYC and the surrounding areas. NYer here too by the way. I split my time between Manhattan and Long Island... but now I've just been staying at my place on the island. I fled the city early on before this thing started spreading because I knew this was going to happen.
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    Originally Posted by JoshSP1985 View Post
    Wasn't that just an H bomb?
    Honestly I don't really remember. I just remember that it was supposed to be small enough to be limited to that town and was supposed to kill anything living, microbial life and all.
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    Originally Posted by Audioslave View Post
    I mean... I wouldn't say one big massive quarantine, but NYC and Long Island are almost tied to the hip. Hell, Queens and Brooklyn are on Long Island. And a lot of people who work essential jobs in NYC live on Long Island, NJ, Westchester, etc., so we actually need them to commute in and out of the city. There is no silver bullet solution, but if it were me, I would quarantine NYC and the surrounding areas. NYer here too by the way. I split my time between Manhattan and Long Island... but now I've just been staying at my place on the island. I fled the city early on before this thing started spreading because I knew this was going to happen.
    I agree that essential healthcare workers, law enforcement, truckers etc will be allowed travel, but there needs to be no YOLO travelling by people from the city out to Long Island. Expressway, highways, bridges, tunnels, etc need checkpoints and people will have to respect them.
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    Originally Posted by Ikeman83 View Post
    Have you seen beds on an aircraft carrier? No, seriously, have you?


    In serious news, Trump ordered USNS Mercy and USNS Comfort to deploy to Seattle and NY, so he's already ahead of you.






    It's not, and it wouldn't. You're picturing that Aircraft carriers have beds. They don't.


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    50% of all US Corona virus cases are in NYC right now. Shutting down travel from/to NYC makes as much sense as continuing shutting down travel to/from Europe and China at this point.
    Not an aircraft carrier but converting exhibition centres like in London where the military are building 4000 beds


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    Originally Posted by John L View Post
    I agree that essential healthcare workers, law enforcement, truckers etc will be allowed travel, but there needs to be no YOLO travelling by people from the city out to Long Island. Expressway, highways, bridges, tunnels, etc need checkpoints and people will have to respect them.
    I don't disagree... it's just challenging. I mean, trying to keep people from Queens out of Nassau county is.... tough. And then once in Nassau you can go straight to Suffolk. Manhattan is a different story because it is off of Long Island but Queens and Brooklyn are tough as they are on the island. If we could get it done effectively then I would be for it though.
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    Originally Posted by Rabbitjb View Post
    Not an aircraft carrier but converting exhibition centres like in London where the military are building 4000 beds


    https://news.sky.com/story/coronavir...gency-11964983

    It’s called planning

    Oh, you mean like this? https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/27/coro...-hospital.html
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    Originally Posted by Rabbitjb View Post
    Lmfao no it won’t... there are cases in every state, so it’s already too late



    That’s a useful and proactive concept that might actually do some good
    Rhode Island is already using the national guard to keep new yorkers out of their state.
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    Originally Posted by Ikeman83 View Post
    Yes but bigger and across every state

    You have 330 million people at risk, the U.K. has 66 million
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    Originally Posted by Rabbitjb View Post
    Yes but bigger and across every state

    You have 330 million people at risk, the U.K. has 66 million

    It's being implemented in places other than NYC. That's simply the first link that I found searching "army converting convention center to hospital NYC". A little further down the page: https://thehill.com/policy/defense/4...in-coronavirus

    Looks like they've identified 114 sites.



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    I think it would be up to Cuomo. I'm pretty sure it's the governor who would make that decision, I don't think the feds can do it. Not 100% sure, though.
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    Originally Posted by JoshSP1985 View Post
    Wasn't that just an H bomb?
    Idk but the outbreak was just in one city not multiple like it is now.
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    Originally Posted by GreatOldOne View Post
    Feds can do it...get powers ultimately through commerce clause.
    wouldnt that just be a shutdown of businesses/trade/flights/etc tho? can feds actually lawfully keep people from going outside in any particular city?
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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    Yep. Congress would have to give Trump that power.

    Just being real. And I think Trump’s idea to lock those areas down is smart.
    This isn't true. There's been laws passed giving federal power to regulate/quarantine states for diseases like this...

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    Originally Posted by exxtracool View Post
    wouldnt that just be a shutdown of businesses/trade/flights/etc tho? can feds actually lawfully keep people from going outside in any particular city?
    If they wanted to...yes.

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    I support it because it's like an invisible barrier. I am having a problem why people think this is not a good idea. Countries are doing it, so why not States or provinces?

    I think Louisiana should be next.

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    Under section 361 of the Public Health Service Act (42 U.S. Code § 264), the U.S. Secretary of Health and Human Services is authorized to take measures to prevent the entry and spread of communicable diseases from foreign countries into the United States and between states.

    if im reading this right, the federal law would only apply to sealing off the entire state, not any particular city within that state. that would probably fall under a state law.
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    You know it’s too late for that right?
    I respectfully disagree, Ms. Rabbit. The reason is because people are fleeing New York believing that they would be safer in another adjacent State like Rhode Island. The problem is that those people may be infected and are becoming super spreaders. Rhode Island police are currently searching for New Yorkers who have fled for those reasons.
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    I respectfully disagree, Ms. Rabbit. The reason is because people are fleeing New York believing that they would be safer in another adjacent State like Rhode Island. The problem is that those people may be infected and are becoming super spreaders. Rhode Island police are currently searching for New Yorkers who have fled for those reasons.
    been seeing a lot more ny plates up here in ontario too.... fuark...


    isnt up state NY basically just empty land tho lol? why dont they just go chill up there?
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    Originally Posted by exxtracool View Post
    Under section 361 of the Public Health Service Act (42 U.S. Code § 264), the U.S. Secretary of Health and Human Services is authorized to take measures to prevent the entry and spread of communicable diseases from foreign countries into the United States and between states.

    if im reading this right, the federal law would only apply to sealing off the entire state, not any particular city within that state. that would probably fall under a state law.
    Yeah idk. I think they're expecting NYC to have an awful few weeks ahead, and want to keep hundreds of thousands panicking residents from trying to flee. Causing bedlam and a horrible time on the highways.
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    Originally Posted by exxtracool View Post
    been seeing a lot more ny plates up here in ontario too.... fuark...


    isnt up state NY basically just empty land tho lol? why dont they just go chill up there?
    Damn, they are going North, too. Most likely why and not good.
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