USA no.1 again!

[backinthegymbro]

Just lol if you think USA has more infected people than china. China simply tries hard to keep the real numbers from leaking out.

[CrookedDink]

Wtf are we doing ameribrahs? At this rate america will be wiped off the face of the earth. Do a travel ban from all over the world so no one can get to the US and not just europe. Wtf is trump doing? Smh...

We might get wiped off the map but it'll be from economic collapse, not flu symptoms

[lolhey]

Number infected is one thing, just hope we can keep the deaths down.

[~Hades~]

I'm not your president.

Of course not. Presidents don’t live with their parents and have sex with other humans

[KBurn]

He's a fine weather president.

The others are not even fine weather presidents. Bushes engineered crisises to help their oily mates out. Clinton wanted to start a war to cover his scandal with Lewinsky, Change changed nothing except continue Bush's war for another 8 years, because they have the same mates.

Credit is where credit's due, he was a solid president before this.

[wincel]

Of course not. Presidents don’t live with their parents and have sex with other humans

Ok. Doesn't negate anything I said about Trump. Nice ad hominem. Wonder how much you are paid to shill here. You suck ass at your job btw, fyi.

[PaulAllen1995]

If Tom Hanks makes it, we're all going to make it.

Tom Hanks is a rich celebrity so of course he’ll make it.

[dunnie]

Obvs China numbers are not real, but I reckon they've had minimum 100k deaths.

Where you at flu bros? Deconstruct these new US numbers, so we can feel a little better please.

this thats what it really seems like if we look at italy and spain you can see the date rate is around what 5-10 % ?

and the ''our leaders'' probably know the it but dont want to divulge them it since it would cause mass panic and they wouldn't be able to control the population.

its either this or some NWO conspiracy

[backinthegymbro]

this thats what it really seems like if we look at italy and spain you can see the date rate is around what 5-10 % ?

All oldcels of people with underlying medical conditions.

[twovalvekid]

Wtf are we doing ameribrahs? At this rate america will be wiped off the face of the earth. Do a travel ban from all over the world so no one can get to the US and not just europe. Wtf is trump doing? Smh...

Bruh...calm down. And stop the trump handwaving.

That doesnt fit the narrative when you use actual statistics to unpack it. We have roughly 5.5x the population as Italy, now we have more cases than anyone (lol @ china's numbers), yet we have 1/8 the deaths of italy.

But lets all just foam at the mouth over the fear mongering media.

Literally had a coworker get told he essentially wasnt worth getting tested because he wasnt in a risk group.

Come on people. Put 2 and 2 together.

[ScottTil]

Good luck USA brahs (you're gonna need it)



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ses-world.html

why are people saying it's exponential growth when since the 22nd it's clearly linear

[twovalvekid]

why are people saying it's exponential growth when since the 22nd it's clearly linear

Math isnt the misc's strong suit. Especially statistics.

If we were on track with italy, we'd also have roughly 44,000 deaths right now.

[wincel]

why are people saying it's exponential growth when since the 22nd it's clearly linear

Is it really? I didn't do any regression. Just eyeballed the graph. Theoretically it should start out looking exponential since growth rate of number of infected should be proportional to number of infected.

If it is truly linear, then we are super lucky, but my question would be why would it be linear? How is the growth of a virus a fixed amount rather than proportional to the population of the virus? Each viral particle multiplies and then some fraction of those spread to other hosts. On average, each infected person would infect a few more, creating exponential growth -- at least on the early phases.

[ScottTil]

Is it really? I didn't do any regression. Just eyeballed the graph. Theoretically it should start out looking exponential since growth rate of number of infected should be proportional to number of infected.

If it is truly linear, then we are super lucky, but my question would be why would it be linear? How is the growth of a virus a fixed amount rather than proportional to the population of the virus? Each viral particle miltiplies and then some fraction of those spread to other hosts. On average, each infected person would infect a few more, creating exponential growth.

yeah just eyeball the graph. Starting on the 22nd it's pretty much a straight line.
march 13-22 - thats exponential growth

edit: to be fair this graph looks different than other graphs ive seen

[Douglas_Quaid]

Why should anyone give a fukk what the numbers in China are and whether they have been adjusted at this point?

I’m not understanding the flucel logic here. “It’s just a flu”...”China lied about their numbers they probably have bout 350k dead!
If one of your arguments is that China is curbing its numbers you are actually saying the virus is much worse than believed. So if it’s much worse how is it just a flu. China shut their whole country down and still had (supposedly) hundreds of thousands of deaths in spite of that, but we here need to just chill because it’s just a flu and we only have so few deaths? Nevermind the fact that raw deaths isn’t the only concern, probably not even the main one. The overall strain on the healthcare system is more frightening. Good luck getting into the ER when little jimmy splits his skull open falling on a bike when every single room and staff is tied up on a covid patient.

You fukking guys don’t make sense breh.
I voted for trump and will probably vote for him again due to no better candidate being presented but I refuse to be a team player for this ****. Grow a fukking brain and exercise independent thought

[Midi77]

Number infected is one thing, just hope we can keep the deaths down.

Nope, USA is probably one of the unhealthiest countries in the world, including a ton of old people. Death rates will climb significantly because a lot of our cases are still active, it takes 10-14 days for a portion of those cases to die. The closed cases is worrisome in relation to death-rate, 128,703 recovered (84%) vs. 24,904 (16%) deaths. Italy has skewed this a bit, but this virus is a lot more deadly than previously thought, at least from a critical case perspective.

[wincel]

yeah just eyeball the graph. Starting on the 22nd it's pretty much a straight line.
march 13-22 - thats exponential growth

edit: to be fair this graph looks different than other graphs ive seen

Linear means constant rate of growth. It doesn't make sense for an infected population or deaths due to it to be linear except to appear to approach a flat linear rate as most of the population gets infected. Instead, you can see the slope appears to be getting steeper, suggesting an increasing growth rate.

Keep in mind there is always noise and random variability. That's why we should do a regression and stuff. But I don't know where to get the data for it and can't be assed rn.

[wincel]

Why should anyone give a fukk what the numbers in China are and whether they have been adjusted at this point?

I’m not understanding the flucel logic here. “It’s just a flu”...”China lied about their numbers they probably have bout 350k dead!
If one of your arguments is that China is curbing its numbers you are actually saying the virus is much worse than believed. So if it’s much worse how is it just a flu. China shut their whole country down and still had (supposedly) hundreds of thousands of deaths in spite of that, but we here need to just chill because it’s just a flu and we only have so few deaths? Nevermind the fact that raw deaths isn’t the only concern, probably not even the main one. The overall strain on the healthcare system is more frightening. Good luck getting into the ER when little jimmy splits his skull open falling on a bike when every single room and staff is tied up on a covid patient.

You fukking guys don’t make sense breh.
I voted for trump and will probably vote for him again due to no better candidate being presented but I refuse to be a team player for this ****. Grow a fukking brain and exercise independent thought

lol flucel I like that

[ScottTil]

Linear means constant rate of growth. It doesn't make sense for an infected population or deaths due to it to be linear except to appear to approach a flat linear rate as most of the population gets infected. Instead, you can see the slope appears to be getting steeper, suggesting an increasing growth rate.

Keep in mind there is always noise and random variability. That's why we should do a regression and stuff. But I don't know where to get the data for it and can't be assed rn.

were looking at the same graph. Unless you are blind you can see that since the 22nd it's linear

[wincel]

were looking at the same graph. Unless you are blind you can see that since the 22nd it's linear

Guess I must be blind lul. Like I said I also do not see how it is linear like theoretically. Linear means a constant rate of growth, so u would see same rate of new infections.

[ThisIsSceaming]

This is no worse than the common cold.






Are we still saying that?

[ScottTil]

Guess I must be blind lul. Like I said I also do not see how it is linear like theoretically. Linear means a constant rate of growth, so u would see same rate of new infections.

you don't see with your eyes how it is theoretically? how about not theoretically, how about actually just seeing with your eyes?

[wincel]

This is no worse than the common cold.






Are we still saying that?

JuSt ThE fLu LoL!!!

[wincel]

you don't see with your eyes how it is theoretically? how about not theoretically, how about actually just seeing with your eyes?

There has to be an explanation. Why should it be linear?

[samsbolton]

There has to be an explanation. Why should it be linear?

I’m not in America

But clearly as people take it more seriously, they limit social contact. So it wouldn’t be exponential.

Of course there’s all sorts of problems with every countries numbers. Nowhere near enough testing for a start

[wincel]

I’m not in America

But clearly as people take it more seriously, they limit social contact. So it wouldn’t be exponential.

Of course there’s all sorts of problems with every countries numbers. Nowhere near enough testing for a start

Taking it less seriously would just be a factor multiplied to reduce the likelihood of any person passing it on. The growth would still be proportional to number of infected, making it exponential.

So like instead of dp/dt being k*p, it would now be some alpha*k*p for early stages...where alpha is some factor between 0 and 1 to take into account reduced propensity to spread

still not linear

[samsbolton]

Taking it less seriously would just be a factor multiplied to reduce the likelihood of any person passing it on. The growth would still be proportional to number of infected, making it exponential.

So like instead of dp/dt being k*p, it would now be some alpha*k*p for early stages...where alpha is some factor between 0 and 1 to take into account reduced propensity to spread

still not linear

I know what you are saying but the likelihood of any one person being tested has to be falling all the time as more are infected. It just isn’t a reliable stat in any country

[wincel]

I know what you are saying but the likelihood of any one person being tested has to be falling all the time as more are infected. It just isn’t a reliable stat in any country

I just mean the deaths. I mean yea certainly death rate is underestimate since the amount tested is way less than have the disease, but the growth trend is same.