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    fck the death rate our problem is the amount of people affected. our healthcare system cant handle it.

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    Once again our resident idiots aren't able to give America a single bit of credit, no matter what. Congrats comrades.
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    fck the death rate our problem is the amount of people affected. our healthcare system cant handle it.
    ^This.
    I mean brave trumplings can go ahead and catch the virus and see if they are able to pull through or if they win the lotto and become ridden with additional complications. You don’t really know till until you feel the symptoms and your lungs get damaged so good luck with “it’s just the flu” goals of 2020. I’d rather not risk it and find out.
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    Originally Posted by KINGFABIAN View Post
    ^This.
    I mean brave trumplings can go ahead and catch the virus and see if they are able to pull through or if they win the lotto and become ridden with additional complications. You don’t really know till until you feel the symptoms and your lungs get damaged so good luck with “it’s just the flu” goals of 2020. I’d rather not risk it and find out.
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    Originally Posted by kcadrenalin View Post
    Nobody is asking you to dummy.
    It’s just a hoax flu bro. Go lick some gas station pump handles and MAGA it up comrade.
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    Originally Posted by KINGFABIAN View Post
    It’s just a hoax flu bro. Go lick some gas station pump handles and MAGA it up comrade.
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    Originally Posted by Trapstar4.4 View Post
    fck the death rate our problem is the amount of people affected. our healthcare system cant handle it.
    I keep hearing this but has anybody actually looked it up? We have 6210 hospitals in the US for a total of 909,000 beds. According to the CDC, we have 68,000 reported cases in the US. Of that, approx 12% require hospitalization. That's 8,000 people. We are not even 1% of capacity. Are you saying hospitals are already 90% capacity? They sure aren't here
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    Originally Posted by gixxer0.6g View Post
    I keep hearing this but has anybody actually looked it up? We have 6210 hospitals in the US for a total of 909,000 beds. According to the CDC, we have 68,000 reported cases in the US. Of that, approx 12% require hospitalization. That's 8,000 people. We are not even 1% of capacity. Are you saying hospitals are already 90% capacity? They sure aren't here
    Could you please contact Georgia and advise them they are freaking out for nothing?

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    I mean there are more hospitals available in America. Perhaps they can just move some of the infected from their hospitals to the hospital in your home town and treat them there?
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    Originally Posted by gixxer0.6g View Post
    I keep hearing this but has anybody actually looked it up? We have 6210 hospitals in the US for a total of 909,000 beds. According to the CDC, we have 68,000 reported cases in the US. Of that, approx 12% require hospitalization. That's 8,000 people. We are not even 1% of capacity. Are you saying hospitals are already 90% capacity? They sure aren't here
    They're thinking more in terms of medical devices like ventilators. We have somewhere between 100 - 200k ventilators I believe. Years ago they conducted a study to see how many ventilators we would need in a severe influenza pandemic like 1918 and it would require 750k to treat victims. We have known for years that we would not be prepared for a severe influenza pandemic.
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    Originally Posted by wesleysh21 View Post
    Once again our resident idiots aren't able to give America a single bit of credit, no matter what. Congrats comrades.
    It's because OP doesn't understand the difference between a mortality rate and case fatality rate and why the former is essentially completely meaningless here (neither good or bad necessarily)
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    fck the death rate our problem is the amount of people affected. our healthcare system cant handle it.
    If you're young, healthy, and have it, why should you go to the hospital?
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    No one ever said that.
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    Originally Posted by gixxer0.6g View Post
    I keep hearing this but has anybody actually looked it up? We have 6210 hospitals in the US for a total of 909,000 beds. According to the CDC, we have 68,000 reported cases in the US. Of that, approx 12% require hospitalization. That's 8,000 people. We are not even 1% of capacity. Are you saying hospitals are already 90% capacity? They sure aren't here
    I wish there were more talk about this, as the big push is to 'Flatten the Curve' but I will point out one flaw in your thinking, that you're assuming these hospitals only exist to serve the coronavirus and aren't occupied by people from other illnesses, which of course they are.

    My guess here, and this is just a guess, is that in general hospitals run pretty tight. An empty hospital bed doesn't pay the light bill. If that's the case, while I don't think 60K people checking in beyond normal capacity is going to break the bank, if this virus is as deadly and easily spread as the hysterical media made it out to be, it wouldn't take all that much to push them beyond capacity if they're already running close to it just from normal everyday reasons.

    That thinking does not take into account anything like emergency hospitals or retrofitting empty hotels or sports arenas ad hoc or anything, though, which they're doing somewhat in NYC if I read something about a cruise ship being appropriated right.

    I'm of the mind it's been blown way out of proportion and that it's not as bad as originally thought but also of the mind that you err on the side of caution when it comes to lives. You also have to weigh the cost of this quarantine, which isn't just money/economy but also negatively impacts people's health, mental well being and is directly responsible for children being harmed by stressed-out parents.

    I think there is some happy medium and my guess is it should involve healthy non at-risk people probably cautiously going back to work here soon, being mindful of social distancing but doing their best to get things back to normal, with at risk individuals playing it safe and self-quarantining until the curve is flattened enough, a good available preventative is found or other kinds of effective treatment change the equation.
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    Originally Posted by gixxer0.6g View Post
    I keep hearing this but has anybody actually looked it up? We have 6210 hospitals in the US for a total of 909,000 beds. According to the CDC, we have 68,000 reported cases in the US. Of that, approx 12% require hospitalization. That's 8,000 people. We are not even 1% of capacity. Are you saying hospitals are already 90% capacity? They sure aren't here
    It sure is a good thing none of those 909K beds are currently in use. Hey yanks, you'll be fine!
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    If you're young, healthy, and have it, why should you go to the hospital?
    You shouldn’t, but if you suddenly find your lungs filling with fluid and gasping for air you might want to go to the hospital. Unless your willing to sacrifice your life for the economy then your better offing yourself so you don’t add to the pandemic #’s - MAGA before anything amirite.
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    It's growing exponentially. We are just lagging behind. Lol @ goofuses scrambling for damage control because it might make a certain orange man look bad.
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    I wish there were more talk about this, as the big push is to 'Flatten the Curve' but I will point out one flaw in your thinking, that you're assuming these hospitals only exist to serve the coronavirus and aren't occupied by people from other illnesses, which of course they are.

    My guess here, and this is just a guess, is that in general hospitals run pretty tight. An empty hospital bed doesn't pay the light bill. If that's the case, while I don't think 60K people checking in beyond normal capacity is going to break the bank, if this virus is as deadly and easily spread as the hysterical media made it out to be, it wouldn't take all that much to push them beyond capacity if they're already running close to it just from normal everyday reasons.

    That thinking does not take into account anything like emergency hospitals or retrofitting empty hotels or sports arenas ad hoc or anything, though, which they're doing somewhat in NYC if I read something about a cruise ship being appropriated right.

    I'm of the mind it's been blown way out of proportion and that it's not as bad as originally thought but also of the mind that you err on the side of caution when it comes to lives. You also have to weigh the cost of this quarantine, which isn't just money/economy but also negatively impacts people's health, mental well being and is directly responsible for children being harmed by stressed-out parents.

    I think there is some happy medium and my guess is it should involve healthy non at-risk people probably cautiously going back to work here soon, being mindful of social distancing but doing their best to get things back to normal, with at risk individuals playing it safe and self-quarantining until the curve is flattened enough, a good available preventative is found or other kinds of effective treatment change the equation.
    You also have to keep in mind how long these hospitals stays are going to be as you admit new people. This article is about a nurse that contracted COVID-19 from working in the hospital here in NY. He was 48 years old and they were using trash bags as protection and wearing PPE between infected and non-infected patients. He was admitted March 17 and the died 7 days later. It's really sad that we put doctors and nurses into these situations without the proper safety gear in place.... it's just wrong... https://nypost.com/2020/03/25/worker...m-coronavirus/
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    Originally Posted by KINGFABIAN View Post
    You shouldn’t, but if you suddenly find your lungs filling with fluid and gasping for air you might want to go to the hospital. Unless your willing to sacrifice your life for the economy then your better offing yourself so you don’t add to the pandemic #’s - MAGA before anything amirite.
    No **** guy. But once again, this is really killing off the elderly who already have numerous other illnesses.
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    Originally Posted by KINGFABIAN View Post
    ^This.
    I mean brave trumplings can go ahead and catch the virus and see if they are able to pull through or if they win the lotto and become ridden with additional complications. You don’t really know till until you feel the symptoms and your lungs get damaged so good luck with “it’s just the flu” goals of 2020. I’d rather not risk it and find out.
    You want to get tested without showing any symptoms?
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    Originally Posted by Dave22reborn View Post
    No **** guy. But once again, this is really killing off the elderly who already have numerous other illnesses.
    Yeah, fck the elderly. If you're not willing to throw your parents/grandparents under a bus, you're not a TRUE MAGA brah!
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    Originally Posted by ScottTil View Post
    when will the europeans finally do the right thing and switch to a private health care system like ours. Just imagine Italy could have saved so many people
    Spain and Italy have universal healthcare, so why are their numbers so high?
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    Originally Posted by Dave22reborn View Post
    No **** guy. But once again, this is really killing off the elderly who already have numerous other illnesses.
    YEAH! Fukc grandma and grandpa! I already said the deplorables need to make a Purge Party and off them already to keep the pandemic #’s looking low. We gotta MAGA for the economy and their lives are spent and almost over with. These old folks just holding back the economy and making “Daddy” look bad, you need to take them out of the picture already!
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    Originally Posted by Dave22reborn View Post
    You want to get tested without showing any symptoms?
    You want to suffocate old people with their own pillows so they don’t suffer death by Covid?

    That question sounds about as equally stupid as the one I quoted from you ;-)
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    Originally Posted by Weightaholic View Post
    Yeah, fck the elderly. If you're not willing to throw your parents/grandparents under a bus, you're not a TRUE MAGA brah!
    Sure, that's exactly what I said......

    And what does political affiliation have to do with anything? Hell, leftists on this board were saying they hope this kills off all of the boomers and Trump himself.
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    Originally Posted by KINGFABIAN View Post
    You want to suffocate old people with their own pillows so they don’t suffer death by Covid?

    That question sounds about as equally stupid as the one I quoted from you ;-)
    How are you going to test 330 million people? You ****ing trolls need to give it a rest.
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    Originally Posted by Dave22reborn View Post
    Spain and Italy have universal healthcare, so why are their numbers so high?
    bruh thats what im saying. Our system is better
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    Originally Posted by Dave22reborn View Post
    How are you going to test 330 million people? You ****ing trolls need to give it a rest.
    At this point I don’t think it’s worth getting tested (due to the lack of test) until your in serious condition. Your assuming that people are arguing for everyone to get tested just for $hits and giggles.
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    Deaths start really climbing once hospitals reach capacity/run out of ventilators.

    Average time to death(if death is going to occur ~3 weeks). We are still in the early stages of this, so I would hold off on making too many assumptions at the point.
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    Originally Posted by GainTrain1995 View Post
    Deaths start really climbing once hospitals reach capacity/run out of ventilators.

    Average time to death(if death is going to occur ~3 weeks). We are still in the early stages of this, so I would hold off on making too many assumptions at the point.
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