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    The original Reg Park program has been in use for over 40 years and is still one of the most successful strength with size programs on the planet. Pushed to the limit on set 1 you have at least 3 reps in the tank! On set 2 you have at least 2 reps in the tank. I could list out dozens of intensity cycled programs where you are way short of failure at the beginning of the cycle and they've all been successful for decades. Did you just start studying this stuff yesterday?
    Research shows there's about 5 stimulating reps in a set. So leaving 3 in the tank still yields 2 stimulating reps.

    Let me simplify it for you. You cannot build muscle if you feel like you got 100 more reps to go when ending a set.
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    There's my little private investigator! Do me a favor and dig me up my post from 2 years ago in May on the 8th at approximately 6:00pm. It's nice having a forum pet.
    Oh, so you're the guy who invented keeping 1-2 reps in the tank on sets. Please educate everyone some more.

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    Anyways, EVEN with the surplus and the high protein and rest, I STILL can hardly progress and it’s so frustrating because my numbers are absolute dirt relative to my genetic ceiling. ... I should be able to add weight every WEEK at least. ... I can’t even do that let alone a rep. Not even my squat and deadlift want to budge even though they’re the biggest movements, it makes no sense. ... I just can’t keep the progression moving forward no matter how hard I go and how good my diet is. ... What the hell is going on here? It’s as if hard work, consistency, rest, and eating right is a lie. I am out of solutions.
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    Originally Posted by air2fakie View Post
    Oh, so you're the guy who invented keeping 1-2 reps in the tank on sets. Please educate everyone some more.
    Lol. Don't give me a reason to then, bubba.

    I want you to take that quote of me and frame it in your room my man. Then take a picture of it and post it here so I know you mean business.
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    Originally Posted by air2fakie View Post
    Oh, so you're the guy who invented keeping 1-2 reps in the tank on sets. Please educate everyone some more.
    It wont let me rep you again. Damn that's gold. A guy who can't make progress is going to tell everybody else they're doing it all wrong!
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    Originally Posted by all pro View Post
    It wont let me rep you again. Damn that's gold. A guy who can't make progress is going to tell everybody else they're doing it all wrong!
    Your boyfriend just trying to take a weak stab at me from something I had an issue with in the past. The past doesnt matter. What matters is where you're going.

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    Maybe if y'all trained as hard as you hate, y'all could make just as good progress.
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    Originally Posted by Animal2692 View Post
    He's just trying to take a weak stab at me from something I had an issue with in the past. The past doesnt matter. What matters is where you're going.

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    Maybe if y'all trained as hard as you hate, y'all could make just as good progress.
    From what you've posted I'm guessing you still have an issue with it or you will in the very near future.
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    That guy that pushed the wheel around, he did multiple sets to near failure. I think he's a retired politician now. Sometimes he's in front of a movie camera.
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    Originally Posted by Animal2692 View Post
    Your boyfriend just trying to take a weak stab at me from something I had an issue with in the past. The past doesnt matter. What matters is where you're going.

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    And https://ibb.co/3SXQdVW

    Maybe if y'all trained as hard as you hate, y'all could make just as good progress.
    You sure love to edit your posts. Oh and thank you for caring. My progress is coming along just fine. With a little luck I'll be back on a flag football field in September. Cycled programs rarely stall.
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    Originally Posted by all pro View Post
    From what you've posted I'm guessing you still have an issue with it or you will in the very near future.
    Lol well you know what, I've actually been progressing after putting my impatience aside and staying consistent with my surplus, protein, and workouts. And now it's paying off and there's no stopping. Guys like you end up looking like the biggest fools in the end when they're proven wrong. But keep on drinking that haterade!
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    Originally Posted by all pro View Post
    You sure love to edit your posts. Oh and thank you for caring. My progress is coming along just fine. With a little luck I'll be back on a flag football field in September. Cycled programs rarely stall.
    You "will" be but you're not. I put pictures of me NOW. Dont sit here and tell me about tomorrow when tomorrow isn't promised.
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    Originally Posted by Animal2692 View Post
    Lol well you know what, I've actually been progressing after putting my impatience aside and staying consistent with my surplus, protein, and workouts. And now it's paying off and there's no stopping. Guys like you end up looking like the biggest fools in the end when they're proven wrong. But keep on drinking that haterade!
    I've been posting here forever and that hasn't happened yet. You're about 15 years late to the party.
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    Originally Posted by all pro View Post
    I've been posting here forever and that hasn't happened yet. You're about 15 years late to the party.
    Yes it has happened because I don't think the same of others that have just as many if not more posts than you. But hey, I'll hear from you when you get on that flag football field
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    Originally Posted by Animal2692 View Post
    Yes it has happened because I don't think the same of others that have just as many if not more posts than you. But hey, I'll hear from you when you get on that flag football field
    I can only please one person per day. Today isn't your day. Tomorrow doesn't look good either.
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    Originally Posted by all pro View Post
    I can only please one person per day. Today isn't your day. Tomorrow doesn't look good either.
    I'm sure you can only please one person per day.
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    Someone mentioned heavy duty training(which i've been a fan of recently, but never really went through the routine week to week), and gotta say Mentzer really does make some good points in the pdf on it. A good read if interested:

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    Originally Posted by TheShadowMan View Post
    Someone mentioned heavy duty training(which i've been a fan of recently, but never really went through the routine week to week), and gotta say Mentzer really does make some good points in the pdf on it. A good read if interested:

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    Currently in the state of things with corona inflating the cost of fitness gear, I lack the cash to pick up more weights than I currently own - which is up to 75lb dumbbells and 200lb for barbell, and squat stands in place of a full sized rack. So, i've been using failure and slow reps in my sets to compensate for lack of ability to progressively overload past a point. So, in regards to training to failure - i've heard some conflicting information on the method of training that I wasn't entirely clear on. A few questions if I may:

    1) Is there truth to failure sets leading to injuries and long term joint pain limitations?
    2) If failure is on it's own an effective way of maximizing results from the set performed, can the pains be overcome if enough rest time is given, and how much would a person need to do that?
    3) If using failure on each set, is there a different amount of time you need to recover depending on each muscle group? If so, how often for each part of the body so that you avoid the pain and also avoid overtraining?
    4) Can isolation movements handle more failure sets than compounds? If so, how many for each type is a good rule of thumb to go by?
    5) Will failure sets override the body's tendency to adapt to routines left as they are weekly?
    6) Taking note of the results many inmates have obtained in prison without the use of weights, is it safe to say that bodyweight exercises can be taken to failure without consequences?

    Kind of a long winded post, thanks ahead of time for any answers which can be provided on the topic.
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    Don't do slowed reps IMO. Just rep out until you reach a high enough level of exertion. Or do a more difficult exercise - e.g. split squats instead of 2 leg squats.

    TBH, if you are forced to do high reps then reaching failure is probably more difficult and less likely to happen every time than you think. At the end, you are just fighting through a lactic acid burn - but you could usually do another 2 reps or so if someone put a gun to your head.

    1. Don't know for sure. Perhaps when coupled with heavier weights.
    2. Yes for the set performed but that says nothing about the fatigue it induces and long term ability to apply workload to a muscle
    3. The same for any protocol, it's better to rest as long as you need to perform well in the next set.
    4. It's more about the safety of reaching failure. For example, I don't recommend it during squats but it's fine during and overhead press (which is still a compound). But generally, yes
    5. No. I would argue it makes it more likely you hit a wall. Since you are less likely to make progress next time.
    6. See my comment at the top. Most people probably aren't hitting true failure. But you certainly need to reach a high level of exertion in each set.
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