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    For the conservatives who say socialism and free money from the government will destroy this country and turn us into Venezuela, you can mail your checks back to:

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    Originally Posted by ghostfacedup View Post
    Definitely think they should've halted mortgage payments for a bit, this would give renters a break too. That would be so substantial for so many people.
    In my state at least Freddie mac and Fannie May mortages can have reduced or delayed payments because of this (Michigan)

    Theres more in other states too.

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    Originally Posted by LieutenantGains View Post
    For the conservatives who say socialism and free money from the government will destroy this country and turn us into Venezuela, you can mail your checks back to:

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    If you posted that, you must not understand the fundamental thesis between Capitalism and Communism. It has nothing to do with distribution of goods it has everything to do with how humans grow up in the construct over generations.
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    If you posted that, you must not understand the fundamental thesis between Capitalism and Communism. It has nothing to do with distribution of goods it has everything to do with how humans grow up in the construct over generations.

    so you'll be using your corona bucks then right babe?
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    Originally Posted by enzo818 View Post
    They should be giving more to those who pay more taxes. Why should the poor get money when they dont contribute and just take from the system when those who actually make this country function get nothing? Who needs poor people for a good economy? They are poor for a reason.
    because its not a fuking tax return you moron.

    Its a stimulus check to stimulate the economy and help americans out who need to pay rent and bills.

    Their money goes to businesses like the electric company, water and gas, apartments, banks with their mortgage, grocery stores etc... Do you understand how economics work/?

    Give rich people money all they will do is put it in the bank or invest it, give poor people money and they will spend it creating a healthier economy.


    How are you one of the people who does need the check with your level of intelligence?
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    The vast majority of people getting excited about this money will dump it on wheels for their whip....It wont actually help them stay on their feet.

    It should have gone to people out of work or with significantly reduced incomes...No one seems to realize they are printing money you will have to pay interest on for a generation and you will probably pay a boat load when you do your taxes.

    There is no such thing as free money
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    Most of your post are angry bitch mode. Nobody believes what you say
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    Originally Posted by Jestbrah View Post
    because its not a fuking tax return you moron.

    Its a stimulus check to stimulate the economy and help americans out who need to pay rent and bills.

    Their money goes to businesses like the electric company, water and gas, apartments, banks with their mortgage, grocery stores etc... Do you understand how economics work/?

    Give rich people money all they will do is put it in the bank or invest it, give poor people money and they will spend it creating a healthier economy.


    How are you one of the people who does need the check with your level of intelligence?
    Don’t expect morons (liberals) to be able to differentiate a stimulus check in a Time of global market collapse versus a permanent UBI.
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    Originally Posted by LieutenantGains View Post
    For the conservatives who say socialism and free money from the government will destroy this country and turn us into Venezuela, you can mail your checks back to:

    Treasury Building
    1500 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW
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    Thank you for doing your Patriotic Duty™


    For the liberals please post up the previous checks you mailed into the government programs you've supported...We would expect for you to go first and lead the way supporting government programs or is it that you support government programs you just want someone ELSE to be looted? Thats right you expect the billionaires to pay for your programs...How convenient to write checks out of other peoples bank accounts.

    Its funny how liberals immediately distance themselves from liberal policy when it impacts their wallet.


    ...and if I get a check 100% will be donated to charity minus tax withholdings (dead srs)...
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    Originally Posted by Jestbrah View Post
    because its not a fuking tax return you moron.

    Its a stimulus check to stimulate the economy and help americans out who need to pay rent and bills.

    Their money goes to businesses like the electric company, water and gas, apartments, banks with their mortgage, grocery stores etc... Do you understand how economics work/?

    Give rich people money all they will do is put it in the bank or invest it, give poor people money and they will spend it creating a healthier economy.


    How are you one of the people who does need the check with your level of intelligence?
    LMAOOO what a degenerate you are.. Pay the wageslaves so they can pay their bills while doctors, lawyers, etc should get nothing when they have been keeping those wageslaves afloat...Spoken like a guy who lives paycheck to paycheck. You have no knowledge of economics you retard. Dont you understand that the 1% CONTROL the economy. Not some poor wage slave who can pay their electricity bill lmao. Why do you think corps pay zero taxes??? Because they stimulate the economy by creating jobs and reinvesting into the company.
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    Originally Posted by Jestbrah View Post
    because its not a fuking tax return you moron.

    Its a stimulus check to stimulate the economy and help americans out who need to pay rent and bills.

    Their money goes to businesses like the electric company, water and gas, apartments, banks with their mortgage, grocery stores etc... Do you understand how economics work/?

    Give rich people money all they will do is put it in the bank or invest it, give poor people money and they will spend it creating a healthier economy.


    How are you one of the people who does need the check with your level of intelligence?

    Rich people invest in the market = doesnt stimulate the economy
    Poor people pay power bills = does stimulate the economy



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    Inb4 Pelosi's puppet masters pull the strings and grenade the bill. Calling it now..
    Give her time...She hasnt read it yet. She's been too busy to worry about the people that lost their jobs or took massive pay cuts.

    You are probably right that they will fight it but she will gift wrap Trumps re-election if she fights it.
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    For the conservatives who say socialism and free money from the government will destroy this country and turn us into Venezuela, you can mail your checks back to:

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    How do i send a check back that i don't get?

    This is a stupid, circular argument anyway that does nothing but spread hate and discontent.
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    Rich people invest in the market = doesnt stimulate the economy
    Poor people pay power bills = does stimulate the economy



    So you think Wal-mart makes its money from stock holders and not the 100s of millions of people shopping there buying goods daily?


    OK


    We are in this crisis because people arent spending money, not because people arent stockpiling money and trying to capitalize on investments. Getting people spending money again is the better solution than making rich people get richer.

    Originally Posted by enzo818 View Post
    LMAOOO what a degenerate you are.. Pay the wageslaves so they can pay their bills while doctors, lawyers, etc should get nothing when they have been keeping those wageslaves afloat...Spoken like a guy who lives paycheck to paycheck. You have no knowledge of economics you retard. Dont you understand that the 1% CONTROL the economy. Not some poor wage slave who can pay their electricity bill lmao. Why do you think corps pay zero taxes??? Because they stimulate the economy by creating jobs and reinvesting into the company.
    Thats good and all in a healthy, functioning economy. But we arent in a healthy functioning economy right now, we are in an economy where a vast amount of the population is out of work and the majority of people in this country are not buying ANY goods except groceries, internet, electricity, and loan payments, and thats the ones who still have jobs.

    All you ****ing morons who keep talking about republican ideologies based on a normal functioning economy and not acknowledging that things are VERY different right now are coping to hold on to overly conservative principles for selfish reasons. I have nothing wrong with someone wanting to be a conservative republican normally, thats your choice, but right now is not that time.
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    Just imagine if everyone saved a tiny 3 month emergency fund..... Damn what a world it would be.

    Edit: this economic shutdown would have been a good (hard) lesson to people to stop buying the newest iPhone and watch.... BUT instead nothing will be learned, and brainlets will continue to brainlet.
    Then how does the economy grow if noone is buying the newest iphone/watches/jordans?
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    Originally Posted by MiamiLife305 View Post
    Then how does the economy grow if noone is buying the newest iphone/watches/jordans?
    Because after you have a rainy day fund, you can buy whatever the fuk u want.

    Edit: also investing saved money helps the economy kind of a lot lmao.
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    Then how does the economy grow if noone is buying the newest iphone/watches/jordans?
    a lot of these CEO 10k/day miscers who think they understand the world think Stocks and investments fuel 90% of the economy.

    They dont realize the reason everything is so ****ed right now is because the vast majority of people arent spending money. I guarantee in their minds they think 90% of the economic recession is purely based on people selling their stocks.
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    Can't and wont are very different though. I honestly have no idea what thoughts go through her mind. This is the same psycho that wrote the Green New Deal so....


    I hope you're write. I honestly have no clue. There's so many representatives and so many of them are psychos and it only takes one to screw us all over and delay it even more. If they House is forced into a vote they should expel whichever representative forced them to convene while they are at it. Wont happen, but a guy can dream.
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    Originally Posted by Jestbrah View Post
    So you think Wal-mart makes its money from stock holders and not the 100s of millions of people shopping there buying goods daily?


    OK


    We are in this crisis because people arent spending money, not because people arent stockpiling money and trying to capitalize on investments. Getting people spending money again is the better solution than making rich people get richer.
    LMAO another horrible argument for giving poor people money. Hey, poor people dont save money, spend every dollar you have because if things go south we will just give you free money that the middle class will cover.



    People are not spending money, but yet people taking everything from stores??? LMAO you are an idiot. People are spending money if they have it. Why should we give poor people money when they didnt save a dime for a rainy day??? Instead of pretending to be rich by buying iphones and beats headphones they shoould be reading books.
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    Originally Posted by Jestbrah View Post
    So you think Wal-mart makes its money from stock holders and not the 100s of millions of people shopping there buying goods daily?


    OK


    We are in this crisis because people arent spending money, not because people arent stockpiling money and trying to capitalize on investments. Getting people spending money again is the better solution than making rich people get richer.

    I could provide a long description of why people invest in public companies, what the companies do with the money and how it directly tied to their growth with the direct result of economic stimulus for our country. I could also talk about the profit that companies make from basic goods and services and then correlate the miniscule re-investments (in most industries) companies make based upon the percentage of profit. I could then make a strong case that the money that is invested in the market grossly outweighs the minuscule re-investment made by the profits from people paying their power bill or loading up at the grocery store..Lets be clear this money is NOT putting people back to work. Its meant to help people/economy survive until the virus passes.

    ....but I wont because it will end up in an endless argument where I have to spend a bunch of time posting links proving the economic principals and facts.

    ...and we are assuming poor people will spend the money on bills and groceries. They wont spend it on TVs, drugs, wheels, etc...Im not saying all poor people are irresponsible but I am saying a portion of them are...


    In the end - why do companies do an IPO? The answer is to enable growth which in turn is a massive stimulus to the economy.
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    LMAO another horrible argument for giving poor people money. Hey, poor people dont save money, spend every dollar you have because if things go south we will just give you free money that the middle class will cover.



    People are not spending money, but yet people taking everything from stores??? LMAO you are an idiot. People are spending money if they have it. Why should we give poor people money when they didnt save a dime for a rainy day??? Instead of pretending to be rich by buying iphones and beats headphones they shoould be reading books.
    You keep arguing things as they were 2 months ago. Theres no point. You fail to see that right now peoples spending is different and the economy as a whole is different.
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    Originally Posted by Scarrdbutsmartr View Post
    I could provide a long description of why people invest in public companies, what the companies do with the money and how it directly tied to their growth with the direct result of economic stimulus for our country. I could also talk about the profit that companies make from basic goods and services and then correlate the miniscule re-investments (in most industries) companies make based upon the percentage of profit. I could then make a strong case that the money that is invested in the market grossly outweighs the minuscule re-investment made by the profits from people paying their power bill or loading up at the grocery store..Lets be clear this money is NOT putting people back to work. Its meant to help people/economy survive until the virus passes.

    ....but I wont because it will end up in an endless argument where I have to spend a bunch of time posting links proving the economic principals and facts.

    ...and we are assuming poor people will spend the money on bills and groceries. They wont spend it on TVs, drugs, wheels, etc...Im not saying all poor people are irresponsible but I am saying a portion of them are...
    You're missing the root of the whole thing, companies dont make products and dont make profit if people arent using money to purchase their products and services.

    Why are companies and corporations needing bailouts right now? is it because they invested money poorly and lost their stock power? and why did they lose their stock power? It all goes back to consumerism.

    If you think Consumerism isnt the most vital point of an economy you are not worth arguing with either. Go look at other countries with no consumerism and very wealthy elites and see how good their economy as a country is and how functioning the majority of the people are and how stable their government is.
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    Originally Posted by Jestbrah View Post
    You're missing the root of the whole thing, companies dont make products and dont make profit if people arent using money to purchase their products and services.

    Why are companies and corporations needing bailouts right now? is it because they invested money poorly and lost their stock power? and why did they lose their stock power? It all goes back to consumerism.

    If you think Consumerism isnt the most vital point of an economy you are not worth arguing with either. Go look at other countries with no consumerism and very wealthy elites and see how good their economy as a country is and how functioning the majority of the people are and how stable their government is.

    That wasnt my point and you are creating an argument I never posed...My argument was that giving poor people money to spend on power bills was economic stimulus while rich people investing in the market was not.

    So lets be clear poor people going into walmart and buying groceries and paying generic bills is no more of an economic stimulus (actually less) than a rich person investing in the market. Poor people would fund a very limited amount of economic growth to very specific industries (if they spent the money responsibly). Rich people investing in the market enables companies to have funds to research, pay bills, maintain critical employees and keep the lights on across NUMEROUS industries and verticals...

    Are you going to suggest to me that the specific verticals the poor people will invest in will be more beneficial than keeping money flowing into the market across numerous verticals? Are you going to suggest the inevitable profit from the market and its reinvestment into additional market purchases or goods and services across a broad range of verticals wont ultimately benefit the stimulation of the economy? I hope that isnt your opinion.

    In the long run would it be good for every vertical/sector of our national economy to fail with the exception of the life sustaining goods and services that the poor people would invest in? Would you be happy living in world in which only the grocery stores, food products, cleaning products and mortgage companies survived (basic life necessities)?

    ..and lets remember this is a rescue bill and not a stimulus bill. There is a huge difference between the two.
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