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    Originally Posted by Mark1T View Post
    Good input. Whatever it takes. I support international trade, but China took advantage of the world and saturated it with some sub-par quality goods only to build its military to dangerous levels. Some can argue that the US builds its military, but the US isn't communist and doesn't suppress its people.
    Be careful with that.

    Subsidies are not a good thing. They may be necessary to ensure domestic security, but it should not be done more than is absolutely necessary.

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    Make it immediate, no "starting next week" bullchit.
    Test every motherluvin person we actually have to take back for whatever reason (US citizens, etc.)
    Track whoever we have to let back in, and gather contact info.

    Not this half ass crap we saw with temp scan and bye bye, go on and infect the rest of your community cos we trust you to self isolate since we're actually not sure if you are infected nonsense.

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    Send in the WHO/CDC into the epicenter fukking immediately. If not allowed, no praise, no diplomacy, none of that crap-sanction their ass and get the rest of the world to pressure them with total bans of everything-travel, freight, money, etc. There's no excuse.
    There is always a new virus coming from XYZ.... If you lock down every time your economic supply lines will be destroyed.
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    Originally Posted by Austanian View Post
    Be careful with that.

    Subsidies are not a good thing. They may be necessary to ensure domestic security, but it should not be done more than is absolutely necessary.
    Well, on some items why not change up supply chains with more friendly nations?
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    The government needs to invent a "freeze" button so the next time one of these viruses come around we can all "freeze" (like the elementary school game freeze tag) for two weeks and let it die off.
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    Originally Posted by tyn89 View Post
    THIS X 1000. USA relying on an enemy to produce medical supply atm.

    At least move to real ally countries.

    Also make sure international authority is legit, it is obvious that the WHO is being pay big money from CCP.
    Doesn't help.

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    Either produce it yourself or watch your "allied" countries do this.
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    Originally Posted by Austanian View Post
    There is always a new virus coming from XYZ.... If you lock down every time your economic supply lines will be destroyed.
    Eh, true. We had plenty of warning signs that this was kind of a big deal though. 80% of their economy ground to a halt, hundreds of millions of citizens on lockdown, biggest holiday cancelled... I mean, fuk, yeah the numbers infected/dead don't really tell the story, their own reaction did.
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    There needs to be a creative way to encourage businesses to save for these situations; it likely can’t be mandatory.
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    Originally Posted by Mark1T View Post
    Well, on some items why not change up supply chains with more friendly nations?
    I am not saying we shouldn't do it, but abandoning free market principles should be done with extreme caution and no more than necessary.
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    Originally Posted by NYPat View Post
    The government needs to invent a "freeze" button so the next time one of these viruses come around we can all "freeze" (like the elementary school game freeze tag) for two weeks and let it die off.
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    Originally Posted by Austanian View Post
    I am not saying we shouldn't do it, but abandoning free market principles should be done with extreme caution and no more than necessary.
    Totally agree.
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    Originally Posted by Johnez View Post
    Eh, true. We had plenty of warning signs that this was kind of a big deal though. 80% of their economy ground to a halt, hundreds of millions of citizens on lockdown, biggest holiday cancelled... I mean, fuk, yeah the numbers infected/dead don't really tell the story, their own reaction did.
    Could be part of a grander plan to scare us into doing what they "did"
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    These. China needs to be brought to its knees for this ****. How many times are we going to go through this because they're a bunch of backwards who think their illustrious history means a goddamn thing today. From intellectual/industrial espionage, to human rights, to the economy, to expansionism, to endangering the global population, to.....they're literally the worst at everything but terror. **** them.

    Trump needs to shank them in the nuts and make them pay for our masks, on the way to a complete takedown of their way of life.
    China aint gotta do chit fall yall. To say that they need to clean up insinuates that aint nothing wrong with America and somehow yalls better or sumtn. Why don't yall cleans up yalls ghettos and homeless problem. CHit, at least with a wet market someone eating.

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    Originally Posted by tunafishha View Post
    China aint gotta do chit fall yall. To say that they need to clean up insinuates that aint nothing wrong with America and somehow yalls better or sumtn. Why don't yall cleans up yalls ghettos and homeless problem. CHit, at least with a wet market someone eating.

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    Changes:

    -China gon' get ****ed because no one will want to trade with them after this
    -Industries are coming back to 'Murica
    -Europe gon' die
    -2A will not be gettin' infringed on
    -Refugees? GTFO
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    Originally Posted by Ikeman83 View Post
    Changes:

    -China gon' get ****ed because no one will want to trade with them after this
    -Industries are coming back to 'Murica
    -Europe gon' die
    -2A will not be gettin' infringed on
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    Originally Posted by Ikeman83 View Post
    Changes:

    -China gon' get ****ed because no one will want to trade with them after this
    -Industries are coming back to 'Murica
    -Europe gon' die
    -2A will not be gettin' infringed on
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    I imagine the powers that be will try to distance from China while shifting our dependence on poor countries that border the US.

    The shift to countries that border the US won’t stop those countries from buying things from China and providing to the US.


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    Could be part of a grander plan to scare us into doing what they "did"
    You never really know.

    Based on my readings about China from foreign policy experts and military personnel, they've conducted some very, very intricate operations to achieve their objectives. Their number one weapon is utilizing deception to keep everyone in the dark about what they are doing or what their intentions are. They've even used their propaganda arm to re-enforce stereotypes about China in regards to their economy being weak and feeble, their country being unstable, etc, all to make people believe they aren't a threat.

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    Not much.

    Smart people will probably say that we need to move a lot of manufacturing back to the USA (remember, manufacturing can often be retooled quite quickly to produce different items, but it takes much much longer to establish the manufacturing base to start with), libertarians and vested interests (not mutually exclusive) will scream "socialism" and "what about our tremendous profits", your politicians will get bought out, and not much changes except for the families of the dead who couldn't get care wondering why a filthy socialist hell-hole like SK had 4 times as many hospital beds to treat their ill than the greatest country on earth murica.
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    Expect - not much, but I do hope it lights a few fires under some asses and - man this is going to sound like fiction - get people to finally understand the need for restrictions on borders and travel. This is why we can't just let everyone with a song in their heart hop and skip into the United States completely unchecked.

    If that is hard enough for some to grapple with, here's the Fate and the Furious insane, fictive hope that we don't have to repeat this initial hand-wave of what should be universally accepted procedures of blocking travel immediately from countries with an outbreak, and aggressive screening of anyone who might have traveled to those regions and returned home. Try telling families and loved ones that it is somehow "racist" and "xenophobic" to take actions that could potentially save hundreds to thousands of lives, as we have literally just witnessed. Those terms have jumped the shark so many times damn near every week that they might as well apply to the xenomorphs from Alien, so pump the breaks on the social justice virtue signaling in the wake of a crisis that gives zero f*cks about anyone's race, gender, religion, or creed. Now, a government order can't really be made to cement the truth that "we're all in this together, whether we agree on [x] or not," but it's disappointing that we are seriously going through that at the moment.

    The nature of the COVID-19 outbreak highlighted our inability to handle medical supply chain issues, but equally if not more important is that we need to begin taking manufacturing of drugs in the United States seriously.

    This relates to a business perspective, in that if this pandemic hasn't been the necessary wake up call to corporations the world over to stop relying on China, then it would seem that continued efforts to discourage business operations in China would be in order, but equally important, measures that help incentivize production ideally here in the United States, or at least in countries other than China.

    Central and South America would be a terrific, relatively local (compared to China) partner that would also have the advantage of elevating the nations within those reasons economically, providing jobs that would serve as safe, viable opportunities over crime. That lack of alternatives is a major force for individuals turning towards criminal organizations and illegal activities, creating a chain of negative effects like higher crime and death rates that in turn drive emigration, and thus illegal immigration.


    Next, this might be left field, but the government needs to push internet service providers and telecommunication companies to expand and bolster our infrastructure for an untold number of reasons (we could chalk it up to: it's 2020 and the current situation is unacceptable for a first world country). If the quarantines have shown us anything, it is that our current internet infrastructure is struggling just enough to where it would not be able to sustain a future emergency as bandwidth usage increases.

    Expanding upon that point, a quarantine necessitates many to work from home, and having the infrastructure in place to support masses of people transitioning towards working from home would at least alleviate the total impact and possible economic fallout since everything would not come grinding to a standstill. Part of the burden must be shared by corporations, however, as the ability to work from home needs to be available for its own host of reasons, but the return will be less painful transitions should the need arises like it has recently.

    To be blunt: Remoting in is the way of the future, and the faster society embraces that, the better we'll all be for doing so. It's cheaper, more efficient, puts fewer cars on the roads, reducing pollution and gas consumption, do I need to throw in a free set of steak knives? It's just better when it's applicable to the job or type of education.

    Finally, China needs to be held accountable, point blank. If it means keeping them indebted to the rest of the free world like German after World War I, then so be it. Knee-capping China has a whirlwind of benefits all on its own, but given their proclivity for unleashing virus after virus, and now this particular virus, they need far more than a slap on the wrist.
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    Originally Posted by nkiritsis13 View Post

    Finally, China needs to be held accountable, point blank. If it means keeping them indebted to the rest of the free world like German after World War I, then so be it. Knee-capping China has a whirlwind of benefits all on its own, but given their proclivity for unleashing virus after virus, and now this particular virus, they need far more than a slap on the wrist.

    I would love to see this but do you think the PC culture would allow it?
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    How about sanctions against China until they shut down their wet markets?
    why dont you write china an email telling them all about it
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    why dont you write china an email telling them all about it
    why are you still a goof? how much you getting paid to hate america and create dissent?
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    why dont you write china an email telling them all about it
    Wow Mr. Lawyer, so enlightened.
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    Trumpenreich?

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    good luck with that buddy
    how sad does your life have to be when you worship a fat, bald, dim witted bully?
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    Originally Posted by wincel View Post
    good luck with that buddy
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