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    Originally Posted by Fang2 View Post
    Here's the cases worldwide posted by Pogue

    https://ncov2019.live/

    The rocovered percentage keeps dropping. It was at 33% a few days ago, now it's at 27%. If Trump gets this wrong, Biden will become the next president.
    Here is another comprehensive site. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
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    more cases everyday... yeah its about time to drop this quarantine
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    Originally Posted by SaviorSelfJT View Post
    Having our economy shutdown for months would send us back to the stone age.

    I wonder what the "true" fatality rate of this virus even is. The 3 percent figure only includes those who had it bad enough that 1) they noticed it and went to the doctor and 2) the doctor thought it was bad enough to order a test. SK's mortality rate is 0.7 percent and they didn't even test everyone. There's people who get this and don't have any symptoms so it's got to be lower than that. Old people at risk can still isolate themselves, and sure let's fund a service to make sure they get the stuff they need.



    Open the economy back up!
    The mortality rate may be much higher than originally calculated. Death can occur from 2-8 weeks after onset of symptoms. Quoted from https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...195-X/fulltext

    Global mortality rates over time using a 14-day delay estimate are shown in the figure, with a curve that levels off to a rate of 5·7% (5·5–5·9), converging with the current WHO estimates. Estimates will increase if a longer delay between onset of illness and death is considered.
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    Originally Posted by Slie View Post
    The mortality rate may be much higher than originally calculated. Death can occur from 2-8 weeks after onset of symptoms. Quoted from https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...195-X/fulltext
    Bruh, our damn forefathers fought through smallpox, measles, mumps, whooping cough, cholera to be where we are today.

    We are afraid of a damn flu

    inb4 "it's not JUST A FLU mkay, hospitals will collapse ppl die"

    Well more people have still died from the flu.

    Yeah **** off boomer, life is about ****ing bishes and making money and we're doing neither
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    Originally Posted by Slie View Post
    The mortality rate may be much higher than originally calculated. Death can occur from 2-8 weeks after onset of symptoms. Quoted from https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...195-X/fulltext
    From that study:

    Notably, the full denominator remains unknown because asymptomatic cases or patients with very mild symptoms might not be tested and will not be identified. Such cases therefore cannot be included in the estimation of actual mortality rates, since actual estimates pertain to clinically apparent COVID-19 cases.
    So its still only looking at confirmed cases, which is only a subset of all cases. Potentially a much smaller and more severe subset.


    What if they divided the number of deaths not by the number of cases 14 days ago, but rather 100 days ago when there was only like 1 case? The death rate would go way over 100% lmao

    No offense but that study looks like sensational "what if" fear mongering
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    Trump is desperate to get economy going before election

    Hospitals will become overrun if this happens

    There will be no healthcare for anyone

    A country simply cannot run under those circumstances



    I know miscers want to get back in the gym but it would be insane if he made that call

    B b but he's alpha bro
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    Originally Posted by Uhyeahokay View Post
    NYC hasn't even peaked.

    If he gets this wrong, Biden for 4 years... fuk that noise.

    I’m a Trump fan but I feel this entire thing has been half assed...They saw this coming for months and our nurses/doctors don’t have even mask. The old ladies in my neighborhood are sewing mask together for them (dead srs)...Let that sink in. In America, the richest and most powerful nation in the world, old ladies are sewing masks because the government hasn’t and wouldn’t prepare for an influenza outbreak...

    We should have been prepared LONG before an epidemic struck and the we basically did nothing until it smacked us in the face with a brick...Goes to show you government run anything is absolute shi*....
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    all this time I thought trump was merely pretending to be retarded
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    Originally Posted by andyray View Post

    I know miscers want to get back in the gym but it would be insane if he made that call

    B b but he's alpha bro
    This isn't about the gym.

    This is about paying your rent, bills, loans, and debts. Not to mention the business owners who will be forced to shut down along with jobs.

    You're bitching about people staying inside but after a while there will be no inside for many people to go to.


    Unless they roll out the FEMA camps.
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    Originally Posted by Tomohokk View Post
    Bruh, our damn forefathers fought through smallpox, measles, mumps, whooping cough, cholera to be where we are today.

    We are afraid of a damn flu

    inb4 "it's not JUST A FLU mkay, hospitals will collapse ppl die"

    Well more people have still died from the flu.

    Yeah **** off boomer, life is about ****ing bishes and making money and we're doing neither
    Much lower population density back then nor could you be eating bat soup in China on Monday and be bottoming out twinks in a NYC alleyway on Tuesday. When those outbreaks happened back then they decimated the local population but it just wasn't able to travel globally like viruses can today.
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    At this point, I say let 'er rip, open the flood gates. I will avoid the gym for a little bit though so I get my money's worth out of these dumbells I bought. Plus working out in the yard and getting a tan is win win.
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    Originally Posted by Tomohokk View Post
    Yeah **** off boomer, life is about ****ing bishes and making money and we're doing neither
    LMAO. Worst of all, rent isn't going to go down and high paying jobs won't suddenly be open.
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    LMAO. Worst of all, rent isn't going to go down and high paying jobs won't suddenly be open.
    The longer we stay shut down the worse the economy is going to be.
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    Originally Posted by SaviorSelfJT View Post
    From that study:



    So its still only looking at confirmed cases, which is only a subset of all cases. Potentially a much smaller and more severe subset.


    What if they divided the number of deaths not by the number of cases 14 days ago, but rather 100 days ago when there was only like 1 case? The death rate would go way over 100% lmao

    No offense but that study looks like sensational "what if" fear mongering
    Why would you even ask that? On average it takes 2 weeks for death to occur from the onset of symptoms, not 100 days. If that was the case, then 1 case 100 days ago would result in a max of one death today..

    They are taking current deaths, divided by current cases 14 days ago to get a "more accurate" picture. It's not perfect, and it's not fear mongering. They are trying to get a clearer picture of what is happening. Throwing random numbers into the equation for the hell of it doesn't help.
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    The government doesn't give a fuk about its citizens. They only care about people churning in currency and they can't have that when they're quarantined.
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    Originally Posted by Fang2 View Post

    The recovered percentage keeps dropping. It was at 33% a few days ago, now it's at 27%. If Trump gets this wrong, Biden will become the next president.
    If Trump gets this wrong, Biden will come out of quarantine, sniff some children, catch Corona and die.
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    Originally Posted by Fang2 View Post
    Here's the cases worldwide posted by Pogue

    https://ncov2019.live/

    The recovered percentage keeps dropping. It was at 33% a few days ago, now it's at 27%. If Trump gets this wrong, Biden will become the next president.

    [img]https://i.imgur.com/sCCs91F.png?1[img]
    This. I’m not sure I understand Trump’s 180°. We know the economy is fuked. I literally lost my job srs. But as long as Congress can get their chit together, the stimulus package will keep American workers and businesses afloat until it IS a safe time to lift the quarantine, which will probably be mid-May at the latest.

    Botching the Coronavirus response is not an option. It will make things worse and definitely guarantee a President Biden.

    I say keep things closed for a few more weeks. Better safe than sorry.
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    Originally Posted by Peter Ruby View Post
    Like others have said, this quarantine is going to make people go crazy after a while, crime will spike, economy may never fully recover, and its said that we’ll all get it anyway.

    Let’s just hope that those of us that do get it don’t need to go to a hospital and symptoms are mild.

    Personally, I’m pretty sure I’ve already had it weeks ago.
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    Originally Posted by Slie View Post
    Why would you even ask that? On average it takes 2 weeks for death to occur from the onset of symptoms, not 100 days. If that was the case, then 1 case 100 days ago would result in a max of one death today..

    They are taking current deaths, divided by current cases 14 days ago to get a "more accurate" picture. It's not perfect, and it's not fear mongering. They are trying to get a clearer picture of what is happening. Throwing random numbers into the equation for the hell of it doesn't help.
    China stopped having new cases over 14 days ago. If there was a lead/lag in mortality rate, it would have been true'd up by now.

    https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/a...23467b48e9ecf6

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    81498 cases,
    3274deaths
    Mortality rate = 4 percent

    Unless you have a way of making more deaths come out of thin air, its not 5-7 percent or whatever that study said.

    "Throwing random numbers into the equation" is exactly my point, and that is exactly what that study is doing. Maybe they thought that at the time (the study does say as of March 1st) before china's case rates topped off, but now we know it mathematically cannot be true.
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    Originally Posted by Unstumpable View Post
    His latest press conference. He said we were looking at weeks not months before we get the country opened up again.
    He also clearly delegated containment policies and authority to individual state governors.


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    Originally Posted by Unstumpable View Post
    His latest press conference. He said we were looking at weeks not months before we get the country opened up again.
    Good and no fukking chit. Leave it to lefties to think you can just shut down an entire country for months without world ending consequences. Talk about not having a clue how the economy works.

    Even if the virus ISN'T gone in a few weeks too bad, we need to open things up and people who are vulnerable need to take it upon themselves to stay away.
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    Trump is desperate to get economy going before election

    Hospitals will become overrun if this happens

    There will be no healthcare for anyone

    A country simply cannot run under those circumstances



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    Originally Posted by proteinsnake View Post
    Good and no fukking chit. Leave it to lefties to think you can just shut down an entire country for months without world ending consequences. Talk about not having a clue how the economy works.
    this entire situation could have been avoided by acting earlier and not calling it """"""just a flu"""""" / liberal hype. lmao this **** literally started months before any sort of action was taken. retards are still gathering to this day and then getting mad when the lockdowns get more serious.

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    I was refuting his study about china's mortality rate. Read before you neg, phaggot. I'd neg back if I wasn't on recharge.
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    I am baffled at the kindergarten level reading and listening comprehension itt from the left.

    Trump did not say he was lifting the quarantine tomorrow or next week, he said "he's thinking weeks, NOT months", never did he give a specific date. And he said he WILL LISTEN to all the medical experts and base his decisions on that, ALSO the level of quarantine will be primarily handled and left to the criteria of the states, so the governors will have the ultimate say on when the people in their states are allowed to go out.
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