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    Cardio/endurance supps?

    Many of us have had to adjust our training to aim towards improving cardio/endurance, losing fat etc. what supplements are there for increasing stamina? Off the top of my head there is beta alanine. cordyceps and caffeine. Any others you can add?
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    Rhodiola should have somewhat of an effect with aerobic exercise
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    OP, caffeine is a given for energy/endurance, but do I really need to address this with my thoughts?

    I love a combination of caffeine, creatine, BCAAs and beta alanine
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    1. BCAAs Delay Fatigue During Prolonged Exercise
    BCAAs have been found to inhibit the onset of both central and peripheral fatigue during exercise, so you can go stronger for longer. Peripheral fatigue (when your muscles get tired) is delayed because BCAAs are used as an additional energy source during prolonged exercise. Event after your body has used its glycogen stores, you can pull power from BCAAs in your muscles(Kainulainen, Hulmi, & Kujala, 2013; Gualano et al., 2011). Central fatigue (when your brain gets tired) may also be delayed by BCAAs that block the amino acid tryptophan from getting into the brain. Tryptophan (the same tryptophan from your post-thanksgiving drowsiness) is a precursor to the neurotransmitter serotonin, a central fatigue substance which produces feelings of relaxation and sleepiness (Newsholme & Blomstrand, 2006).

    2. BCAAs Improve Aerobic and Anaerobic Performance When Taken Regularly
    Trained cyclists supplementing with 6 g BCAAs for a week leading up to a graded exercise test to exhaustion achieved a 4% higher VO2max, including 13% higher VO2 at the lactate threshold (LT) and 6% greater power output at LT compared to placebo (Matsumoto et al, 2009). As any athlete knows, a a small increase in performance can mean the difference between a podium finish…or not. In another study involving trained cyclists, researchers found that 10 weeks of BCAA supplementation (12 g/day) resulted in a 19% increase in all-out sprint peak power and 4% increase in average power relative to body mass when compared to placebo (Kephart et al., 2016). Importantly, the results of these studies indicate that BCAA supplementation can improve both aerobic exercise capacity and anaerobic performance!
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    Originally Posted by TheFugitive View Post
    1. BCAAs Delay Fatigue During Prolonged Exercise
    BCAAs have been found to inhibit the onset of both central and peripheral fatigue during exercise, so you can go stronger for longer. Peripheral fatigue (when your muscles get tired) is delayed because BCAAs are used as an additional energy source during prolonged exercise. Event after your body has used its glycogen stores, you can pull power from BCAAs in your muscles(Kainulainen, Hulmi, & Kujala, 2013; Gualano et al., 2011). Central fatigue (when your brain gets tired) may also be delayed by BCAAs that block the amino acid tryptophan from getting into the brain. Tryptophan (the same tryptophan from your post-thanksgiving drowsiness) is a precursor to the neurotransmitter serotonin, a central fatigue substance which produces feelings of relaxation and sleepiness (Newsholme & Blomstrand, 2006).

    2. BCAAs Improve Aerobic and Anaerobic Performance When Taken Regularly
    Trained cyclists supplementing with 6 g BCAAs for a week leading up to a graded exercise test to exhaustion achieved a 4% higher VO2max, including 13% higher VO2 at the lactate threshold (LT) and 6% greater power output at LT compared to placebo (Matsumoto et al, 2009). As any athlete knows, a a small increase in performance can mean the difference between a podium finish…or not. In another study involving trained cyclists, researchers found that 10 weeks of BCAA supplementation (12 g/day) resulted in a 19% increase in all-out sprint peak power and 4% increase in average power relative to body mass when compared to placebo (Kephart et al., 2016). Importantly, the results of these studies indicate that BCAA supplementation can improve both aerobic exercise capacity and anaerobic performance!

    1. I doubt anybody will be exhausting glycogen stores any time soon
    2.12 g a day sounds expensive for anything that tastes good
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    peak atp, lclt? COP?
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    Originally Posted by DASBUNKER View Post
    peak atp, lclt? COP?
    LCLT has always been good to me, can't say I've noticed much from the other 2
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    Peak ATP would be anaerobic
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    Originally Posted by eatyourspinach View Post
    LCLT has always been good to me, can't say I've noticed much from the other 2
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    Peak ATP would be anaerobic
    Well shoot.. you ever heard of the creatine then?

    jk. IDK maybe some patented herbs like LJ100, GS15-4, the usual ashwagandha etc.
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    COP seems to be hit and miss with me, i've never been able to decide whether it actually does something or simply placebo.
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    Originally Posted by rhadam View Post
    COP seems to be hit and miss with me, i've never been able to decide whether it actually does something or simply placebo.
    same, wasn't too gut friendly either
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    What about TeaCrine?

    TeaCrine® is ideal for anyone looking to increase their energy levels without increasing their heart rate or blood pressure. Based on preclinical and human clinical research, TeaCrine® facilitates a wide range of healthy functions while providing an edge in the fiercely competitive and rapidly growing markets of energy, performance, and cognitive achievement. Theacrine (as TeaCrine®) is the perfect non-stimulant compound that delivers powerful energy without the jitters or crash.*
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    What about TeaCrine?

    TeaCrine® is ideal for anyone looking to increase their energy levels without increasing their heart rate or blood pressure. Based on preclinical and human clinical research, TeaCrine® facilitates a wide range of healthy functions while providing an edge in the fiercely competitive and rapidly growing markets of energy, performance, and cognitive achievement. Theacrine (as TeaCrine®) is the perfect non-stimulant compound that delivers powerful energy without the jitters or crash.*
    haven't seen any research with it being beneficial stand alone that wasn't provided by the manufacturer
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    haven't seen any research with it being beneficial stand alone that wasn't provided by the manufacturer
    You say Research? Research was presented on BCAAs and it was frowned upon. We both know this section is relies on opinions

    Also, with all the knowledge everyone claims to have why do we need reassurance from others?
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    Originally Posted by TheFugitive View Post
    What about TeaCrine?

    TeaCrine® is ideal for anyone looking to increase their energy levels without increasing their heart rate or blood pressure. Based on preclinical and human clinical research, TeaCrine® facilitates a wide range of healthy functions while providing an edge in the fiercely competitive and rapidly growing markets of energy, performance, and cognitive achievement. Theacrine (as TeaCrine®) is the perfect non-stimulant compound that delivers powerful energy without the jitters or crash.*
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    You say Research? Research was presented on BCAAs and it was frowned upon. We both know this section is relies on opinions

    Also, with all the knowledge everyone claims to have why do we need reassurance from others?
    Had you not posted that copypasta it wouldn't be an argument about research
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    Had you not posted that copypasta it wouldn't be an argument about research
    Are you saying speak my mind? If so, pull up a chair
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