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    Might as well.

    Think about it, we have been fighting them on the battlefield since the 50's in one way or the other. yes, including the middle east.

    They are our number 1 enemy, make no mistake about that.

    Keep in mind that we have to power now too.

    if we stop buying their crap and start making it in africa or india, we put them back to the stone ages and they know it.

    Notice how stuff gets serious once we buddy up to those places? its not a coincidence.
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    It is pretty good timing all thing considered. Trump was already going to war in trade with china. Now with some well timed tweets and calling it the china virus he will have most of the world behind him. China is about to bend the knee
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    Originally Posted by ErnieMccracken View Post
    Rule 1 of punishing someone is having leverage over them. What leverage does the US have that doesn't involve our entire economy committing sudoku?
    It isn't seppuku, it would be like pushing the big fat red button that says MAD.

    Now is not the time to make them pay, but they have to pay.
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    Don’t forget that they regularly launch cyber attacks on US government agencies and businesses.
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    There will be consequences for China. The cover up part is going to make them look horrible. Them trying to blame the US really makes them look bad. No I don't think China did this on purpose, but not saying its not possible. Possiblilty of them trying to release the agent on others and it backfiring on them is very possible, but doubt it.

    They DEPEND on other nations buying from them, so they won't see any buying while everyone else is sick. Just as well, I think that anything critical there will be an effort to make sure there is a local source. Such as we should NEVER depend on another nation for any medical supplies.
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    Originally Posted by ErnieMccracken View Post
    Rule 1 of punishing someone is having leverage over them. What leverage does the US have that doesn't involve our entire economy committing sudoku?
    Sudoku?
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    Originally Posted by gixxer0.6g View Post
    It is pretty good timing all thing considered. Trump was already going to war in trade with china. Now with some well timed tweets and calling it the china virus he will have most of the world behind him. China is about to bend the knee
    This is exactly what I was thinking. Now is the time we can get the rest of the world on our side and threaten China with sanctions. It will force their hand if everyone is against them. China will probably grow more powerful after this is all over tbh. They need to be taken down a notch.
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    Originally Posted by crupiea View Post
    if we stop buying their crap and start making it in africa or india, we put them back to the stone ages and they know it.
    No place on earth has 1/10 the manufacturing capacity of China. It would take 10+ years and trillions of dollars to build that out... and then that country could hold it over us.

    We are China and China is us. We're married to that dirty bitch and we can't threaten to leave now.
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    Seize all the chit they own in the states
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    Originally Posted by oldandintheway View Post
    Seize all the chit they own in the states
    And then they recall all US debt & stop sending you iphones & basically 90% of the things sold in your stores & the chemicals that make your products...

    If USA chooses to become a debt defaulter then you kind of lose all credibility & suffer default penalties.

    You could enjoy your 1960s all over again.
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    Originally Posted by ErnieMccracken View Post
    No place on earth has 1/10 the manufacturing capacity of China. It would take 10+ years and trillions of dollars to build that out... and then that country could hold it over us.

    We are China and China is us. We're married to that dirty bitch and we can't threaten to leave now.
    This is the unfortunate truth.
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    Originally Posted by blakus_javus View Post
    And then they recall all US debt & stop sending you iphones & basically 90% of the things sold in your stores & the chemicals that make your products...

    If USA chooses to become a debt defaulter then you kind of lose all credibility & suffer default penalties.

    You could enjoy your 1960s all over again.
    Ironomically, we'd have no choice but to become communist and start rationing if China suddenly pulled the rug out.
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    All countries that were impacted need to create a pack for WW 3 and goto war with China
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    They are a repulsive nation that tortures animals before eating regularly and very casually.

    They have over 40 biological-weapons manufacturing/testing facilities. Most of them are in violation of treaties.

    They have concentration camps where an ethnic group is targeted and housed, approximately one million Uighurs, and they are treated horrifically including organ harvesting.

    They have a disproportionate level of control over our domestic idiotic leftists and technology.

    We have allowed our manufacturing and industry to go there, when it should be right here in America.

    They routinely spy on us—cyber attacks and cyber espionage are common.


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    Originally Posted by ErnieMccracken View Post
    No place on earth has 1/10 the manufacturing capacity of China. It would take 10+ years and trillions of dollars to build that out... and then that country could hold it over us.

    We are China and China is us. We're married to that dirty bitch and we can't threaten to leave now.
    You are right for the most part, so I agree. However, the case was even stronger when it came to the Middle East and OPEC in the 1970's onward. Now look at the situation.

    The US has plenty of manufactuering capability. Lots of un-used factories in the US. I see them all of the time. Most of them could be reactivated.
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    Originally Posted by Jasonw1178 View Post
    You are right for the most part, so I agree. However, the case was even stronger when it came to the Middle East and OPEC in the 1970's onward. Now look at the situation.

    The US has plenty of manufactuering capability. Lots of un-used factories in the US. I see them all of the time. Most of them could be reactivated.
    Japan once underestimated us and they awakened the sleeping giant that is US manufacturing.

    We can make Chinese manufacturing look like a flee market if there is a national effort the likes of WWII, but like I said we have a lot of shills and bought politicians in our government. That is the real challenge when cutting the cord off China.
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