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    Leave it to a leftist to defend the indefensible. The US also created the swine flu and the bird flu. Poor communist china. They'd never lie about anything, nor use propaganda to further their grip on power...you are literally too stupid for words.

    China is a viral cesspool. If we look back at world pandemic level viruses, they all come out of china. This is very much so a chinese virus. And we should be reminding them of their gross incompetence every chance we get.
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    Originally Posted by NitrogenWidget View Post
    we may never know.
    however, China is responsible for this no matter which one it is.

    I don't know what the fall out will be, but I do hope it results in more companies moving their manufacturing back to the U.S.
    I agree, we will most likely never know.

    Also, I just read in the wsj that aside from jumping to an intermediary host, it can also jump directly from bat to human without an intermediary.
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    Originally Posted by Jrd86 View Post
    Leave it to a leftist to defend the indefensible. The US also created the swine flu and the bird flu. Poor communist china. They'd never lie about anything, nor use propaganda to further their grip on power...you are literally too stupid for words.

    China is a viral cesspool. If we look back at world pandemic level viruses, they all come out of china. This is very much so a chinese virus. And we should be reminding them of their gross incompetence every chance we get.
    So this is the third time a virus came out of that backwards ****hole?
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    Originally Posted by JoshSP1985 View Post
    Eh we're ****ing ourselves by overreacting. This should have been treated like a heavy flu season. Self quarantine if you're a high risk group. Close visitation to high risk facilities like nursing homes. Other than that tell people to avoid unnecessary contact and practice good hygiene. Closing down everything is a mistake.
    They tried to do that and people still flooded the streets on St. Patrick's day.
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    If you're not bumping this thread so that people can keep negging OP, there's pretty much no reason to be in this thread...
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    Originally Posted by Dave22reborn View Post
    So this is the third time a virus came out of that backwards ****hole?
    This is like the 20th time lol.
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    Originally Posted by plzunbannnn View Post
    There was a paper published in Nature that explored the possibility. It was concluded that this virus is about 96% related to a bat coronavirus and that the mutations are quite novel and unlikely to have been designed by humans. There is also the fact that this virus fails miserably as a biological weapon due to its ease of spread and low mortality rate. Something like ebola is far more weaponizable.
    The Art of War. A dead soldier takes one soldier off the battlefield while a wounded soldier takes three soldiers off the battlefield because it realistically takes two to carry one a considerable distance. (Unless you have PFC Gump in your unit and 20 wounded only takes 21 off the battlefield) Also takes up resources, as well as helps propaganda when people's loved one's start coming home all messed up. They come back dead, they get a hero's burial and everyone goes on with their lives, but if he comes home in a wheelchair full Lt Dann you have to see them a shadow of themselves every day. Although a weak bioweapon, China's stuff is almost always sub-par and weak so it matches up pretty well.
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    Originally Posted by Dave22reborn View Post
    So this is the third time a virus came out of that backwards ****hole?
    Yep. To make matters worse, china has ANOTHER viral bird flu outbreak happening now...

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/thethai...in-hunan%3famp

    The Chinese keep animals in very poor condition...which causes them to get very sick. These viruses are hopping from animals to humans. And its occurring only in china. Personal hygiene is also a major issue in china. This is what makes china a breeding ground for disease.

    All those masks you see people wearing in china over the years...isnt because of the pollution. People are literally walking with them on because they're afraid of catching the latest virus.
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    ITT: random truck drivers, lawyers, tradies, sales account managers, bar tenders and IT workers know more about Epidemiology than Epidemiologists.
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    Originally Posted by Mike86er View Post
    ITT: random truck drivers, lawyers, tradies, sales account managers, bar tenders and IT workers know more about Epidemiology than Epidemiologists.
    Most people get their information from third rate journalists masquarading as health experts. And 99% of the time the journalist has alterior political motives which just serves as confirmation bias for the reading audience. We all fall for it from time to time. But there are those of us that also see thru the charade. Not everything needs to or should be politicised. But we live in such a hyper-partisan environment.
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    Originally Posted by kingmanaverage View Post
    Why wouldn't America have a vaccine for a vaccine they created, and why would they intentionally crash the world economy and kill up to hundreds of 1000s worldwide just to get at China????

    You make good posts sometimes Op but this is pure CT garbage.
    i know it's a garbage post dude - i don't actually believe it. but look at the responses here; the point is that people will believe conspiracies without any evidence at all. people want a scapegoat, and trump wants to blame china by calling it the chinese virus which intentionally stigmatizes china and chinese-americans here in the US. its really sad and desperate. trump knows his entire claim to the presidency rests on the economy, and without that hes fukked.

    hes gotta blame someone as the markets melt in his reelection year

    ironically, trump's blase attitude is only making things WORSE for him. bad miscalculation imo, as the more the virus spreads the worse things will be for him and his reelection chances
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    Originally Posted by sandaltan View Post
    i know it's a garbage post dude - i don't actually believe it. but look at the responses here; the point is that people will believe conspiracies without any evidence at all. people want a scapegoat, and trump wants to blame china by calling it the chinese virus which intentionally stigmatizes china and chinese-americans here in the US. its really sad and desperate. trump knows his entire claim to the presidency rests on the economy, and without that hes fukked.

    hes gotta blame someone as the markets melt in his reelection year

    ironically, trump's blase attitude is only making things WORSE for him. bad miscalculation imo, as the more the virus spreads the worse things will be for him and his reelection chances
    China tried to blame the virus on us. We absolutely should be calling it the Chinese Virus to combat their propaganda. This really isn't complicated. Stop being such an anti-American phaggot.
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    Originally Posted by gwg77 View Post
    China tried to blame the virus on us. We absolutely should be calling it the Chinese Virus to combat their propaganda. This really isn't complicated. Stop being such an anti-American phaggot.
    when did china try to blame the virus on us?
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    Originally Posted by sandaltan View Post
    when did china try to blame the virus on us?

    Are you kidding? Do you think Trump is calling it the Chinese Virus just to be an ass hole? You need to read the news more.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/13/w...cy-theory.html

    https://qz.com/1817736/china-fuels-c...aming-us-army/
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    Originally Posted by mikebadg3 View Post
    i for one believe the US army implanted Corona-Chan covertly into the Bat soup


    why wouldn't they? it was probably E-4 mafia the top dogs convinced to do it, promise of a DD-214 will make anyone do anything
    This is the best theory I've seen so far. This has to be it.
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    Originally Posted by sandaltan View Post
    when did china try to blame the virus on us?

    Lawyer.
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    OP, do you study bird law?

    Do you also know something about the avian flu, like how none of those birds were read their Mandela Rights?


    No seriously, though - how does this work?

    Do you get a gift card to alibaba.com, or do they let you just raid the factory line where they make Happy Meal toys? Or is it a bump to your social credit score? If the latter, is it a flat rate, or does it depend on far up the proverbial ass you have to reach to come up with this sh*t?

    "But what if this time the regime that happily kidnaps its own citizens for reeducation, puts Muslims in concentration camps, and owes the majority of its technological and economic progress to intellectual theft isn't lying to cover for themselves!"

    Why are so many now suddenly caring about the Communist Party of China, when it doesn't care for its own people? What chance does this lot think they have?

    Originally Posted by JoshSP1985 View Post
    Eh we're ****ing ourselves by overreacting. This should have been treated like a heavy flu season. Self quarantine if you're a high risk group. Close visitation to high risk facilities like nursing homes. Other than that tell people to avoid unnecessary contact and practice good hygiene. Closing down everything is a mistake.
    On one hand, I understand the reasoning behind such extreme measures, mostly pertaining to the availability of care. On the other, the actual response has certainly been rife with insanity.

    Panicking has caused its own share of harm, helped in no part by the media, which has served more to directly stoke people's irrationality further.

    The mere fact we have people hoarding toilet paper for a respiratory virus is a sadly accurate barometer for how well the media informs and advises the public in practice. We certainly didn't need the stocks to dive off a cliff.or small businesses and people reliant upon "nonessential" jobs to subsist to be given no warnings, no options, and what I will guess to very little recompense or assistance to continue along in the meantime.

    I suppose this wouldn't have spread so rapidly and widely had China, you know, not pulled a China and disclosed the situation early enough to allow preparation, proper screening, and - perish the thought - travel restrictions*.

    *But those are racist! As though a virus gives a damn what your 23andme results say.
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    Speaking of over/under reacting does anyone have any news out of the UK? Last I heard they were still going to school.
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    Originally Posted by sandaltan View Post
    i know it's a garbage post dude - i don't actually believe it. but look at the responses here; the point is that people will believe conspiracies without any evidence at all. people want a scapegoat, and trump wants to blame china by calling it the chinese virus which intentionally stigmatizes china and chinese-americans here in the US. its really sad and desperate. trump knows his entire claim to the presidency rests on the economy, and without that hes fukked.

    hes gotta blame someone as the markets melt in his reelection year

    ironically, trump's blase attitude is only making things WORSE for him. bad miscalculation imo, as the more the virus spreads the worse things will be for him and his reelection chances
    He's blaming China, because it came from China.
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    Originally Posted by gwg77 View Post
    Are you kidding? Do you think Trump is calling it the Chinese Virus just to be an ass hole? You need to read the news more.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/13/w...cy-theory.html

    https://qz.com/1817736/china-fuels-c...aming-us-army/
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    Originally Posted by Bodhy View Post
    Because we have sequenced the genome of COVID-19 and scientists are pretty much in unanimous agreement that the virus is zoonotic and natural in origin.

    Plus, it is a pretty terrible bioweapon. Any country or party that was discovered to create it would be a global laughingstock.
    always lol when i hear this

    when the media asks "experts" about the virus. they say "its just to early we don't know much about the virus at this time."

    they then ask, "well do you think it was man-made?"

    "no, no of course not we have examined it and realized that this has come from bats blah blah blah there is no way this is man made"

    so which is it?
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    Speaking of over/under reacting does anyone have any news out of the UK? Last I heard they were still going to school.
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    Originally Posted by sandaltan View Post
    when did china try to blame the virus on us?
    China Is Avoiding Blame by Trolling the World

    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...-blame/608332/

    A conspiracy theory linking the US army to the coronavirus now has official Chinese endorsement

    https://qz.com/1817736/china-fuels-c...aming-us-army/

    China Spins Tale That the U.S. Army Started the Coronavirus Epidemic

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/13/w...cy-theory.html

    Chinese foreign ministry spokesman pushes coronavirus conspiracy theory that the US Army 'brought the epidemic to Wuhan'

    https://www.businessinsider.com/chin...o-wuhan-2020-3

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    Originally Posted by sandaltan View Post
    when did china try to blame the virus on us?
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    It's entirely possible China created and released in on purpose with the goal of crippling western democracies.

    They would have no need for a vaccine beforehand because they can easily lock people down and contain it with their authoritarian rule. Not only that, they would probably welcome the collateral damage of death to the old and weak in their own population.

    How likely this is, however, would be left up to debate.
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    Good question.

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    OP should be banned for spreading disinformation.
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