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    Originally Posted by JoshSP1985 View Post
    The problem with the under 50 crowd is they become super spreaders. There was just some news coming out about this regarding millennials and their feelings of invincibility regarding this thing when they can be out in public infection dozens.
    I gave my mom a bunch of groceries and locked her in her home. The real under 50 crowd will do what they need to in order to protect the ones they love.
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    1 patient at a hospital means an entire section of the hospital is transformed into quarantine zone including medical stuff and such so they ahve no contact with regular patients. Majority of ventilators are probably already in use for other patients. It's not as simple as it seems.
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    Originally Posted by NitrogenWidget View Post
    I've noticed a down tick on "survived corona" articles when most who got it and recovered started saying "it felt like I had the flu".
    I don't take it lightly.
    but the media has blown this out of proportion.

    fuk, if you sneeze at work people want to spray you with Lysol and start freaking out.
    And it doesn't help we are going into the severe tree allergy season. People are sneezing from tree pollen and everyone around them is freaking out adding to the panic...
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    Originally Posted by zinkhan99 View Post
    1 patient at a hospital means an entire section of the hospital is transformed into quarantine zone including medical stuff and such so they ahve no contact with regular patients. Majority of ventilators are probably already in use for other patients. It's not as simple as it seems.
    they'll go into a zero pressure airborne isolation room with an ante room to put on PPE. it wont cause a whole unit to be quarantined...until those rooms are used up at least.

    we already have 5 positives where i work
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    My girlfriend works at a health clinic and yesterday 2 patients made it past the front screeners listing no symptoms associated with COVID-19 before sitting next to dozens of people waiting to be seen. Once they saw the nurse and doctor they revealed all the COVID-19 symptoms, 1 including travel, while the medical team wasn't wearing the protective gear they would wear for potential COVID-19 infections. Now everyone who came in contact with both have to be quarantined until the two patients COVID-19 testing comes back negative. Clinic is now down 5 staff members until further notice.

    Moral of the story... people are complete idiots in regards to others safety and I feel for nurses and doctors.
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    Originally Posted by Ephedra View Post
    My girlfriend works at a health clinic and yesterday 2 patients made it past the front screeners listing no symptoms associated with COVID-19 before sitting next to dozens of people waiting to be seen. Once they saw the nurse and doctor they revealed all the COVID-19 symptoms, 1 including travel, while the medical team wasn't wearing the protective gear they would wear for potential COVID-19 infections. Now everyone who came in contact with both have to be quarantined until the two patients COVID-19 testing comes back negative. Clinic is now down 5 staff members until further notice.

    Moral of the story... people are complete idiots in regards to others safety and I feel for nurses and doctors.
    the screening where i work is volunteers asking staff and visitors if theyve been out of country, been in contact with people tested positive or if you have physical symptoms. If you answer yes you go to secondary screening. If you answer no to the questions whether it is knowingly correct or not you're free to go as you please
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    I can't find toilet paper anywhere. Why? Answer that question, and you've answered the question you posed in the OP.
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    Originally Posted by z4v4 View Post
    I can't find toilet paper anywhere. Why? Answer that question, and you've answered the question you posed in the OP.
    Lol if you haven't moved on to the three seashells instead.
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    Originally Posted by Austanian View Post
    This is highly contagious, has a 1-2 week lead time, and is airborne.
    Ok doctor

    Obviously, we’re learning a lot about this virus, but most coronaviruses aren’t airborne that way. Generally speaking, there may be times when some of these droplets or particles are airborne, but it’s limited.
    https://www.uchicagomedicine.org/for...an-coronavirus

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    Thanks everyone for the responses so far. I think part of where my mind is at is my own sector where we never really let stuff like this happen. We have logistics issues with material or supplies sometimes but that is almost always 100% an individual along the line dropped the ball. I guess I never considered that the mostly private health care industry was about as efficient as any government run industry ( Not very efficient).
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    Originally Posted by Holyfenix View Post
    Thanks everyone for the responses so far. I think part of where my mind is at is my own sector where we never really let stuff like this happen. We have logistics issues with material or supplies sometimes but that is almost always 100% an individual along the line dropped the ball. I guess I never considered that the mostly private health care industry was about as efficient as any government run industry ( Not very efficient).
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    I can't find toilet paper anywhere. Why? Answer that question, and you've answered the question you posed in the OP.
    are you larping right now like some harry potter character? so fkn weird lmao
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    Originally Posted by BullittEV View Post
    are you larping right now like some harry potter character? so fkn weird lmao
    No idea what you're getting at, but supplies are short - supplies that don't even mean chit, so imagine how short medical supplies are getting from preppers like you hoarding for no reason, son.
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    Originally Posted by wake_me View Post
    they'll go into a zero pressure airborne isolation room with an ante room to put on PPE. it wont cause a whole unit to be quarantined...until those rooms are used up at least.

    we already have 5 positives where i work
    Unless a potential case arrives, doesn't inform beforehand that he/she has symptoms or that he/she may be a carrier, and everyone who interacted with him gets quarantined. Idk, different protocols at different hospitals I guess, but I've read a few stories where whole units were quarantined, or even hospitals.
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    Originally Posted by soaponarope1 View Post
    Ok doctor

    https://www.uchicagomedicine.org/for...an-coronavirus

    Better get that journal article ready, the scientific community will be highly interested.
    For fuks sake... You really want to be specific?

    - roughly 95% of the population will experience symptoms between 4.5 and 5.8 days or exposure.
    Lauer SA, Grantz KH, Bi Q, et al. The Incubation Period of Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) From Publicly Reported Confirmed Cases: Estimation and Application. Ann Intern Med. 2020; [Epub ahead of print 10 March 2020]. doi: https://doi.org/10.7326/M20-0504

    The effective reproduction number is 1.8-5.1 in the United States.
    Sam Abbott*, Joel Hellewell, James D Munday, June Young Chun, Robin N. Thompson, Nikos I Bosse, Yung-Wai Desmond Chan, Timothy W Russell, Christopher I Jarvis, CMMID nCov working group, Stefan Flasche, Adam J Kucharski, Rosalind Eggo & Sebastian Funk. https://cmmid.github.io/topics/covid...nsmission.html


    Potential transmission from asymptomatic persons has been reported. Bai et al. 2020 report a familial cluster of
    five COVID-19 patients hospitalised with fever and respiratory symptoms that had contact before onset of
    symptoms with an asymptomatic family member, a young 20-year-old woman, after her return from Wuhan. She
    remained asymptomatic for the entire duration of laboratory and clinical monitoring (19 days) [9].
    https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/sites/def...e-criteria.pdf

    You yourself posted that it can be transferred via water droplets in the air for limited periods of time.


    You act like you need to be a fuking doctor to read a paper.

    All you need to so is pull the relevant data and model it to realize what a big issue this is. Particularly with estimates that 80+ percent of people are not being identified as having it.
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    Originally Posted by BullittEV View Post
    are you larping right now like some harry potter character? so fkn weird lmao
    No really, here in Raleigh someone some TP burglar is hitting every last store and buying it all right as the stores open.

    Unbelievable.
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    Originally Posted by Holyfenix View Post
    There a total of 6146 Hospitals in the United States. There have been a confirmed 8700 cases and 150 deaths. Now obviously some hospitals are being hit harder than others but that is still just over 1 extra patient per hospital. Yet we are continuously hearing how hospitals are running low on ventilators, masks, and other items needed to fight this virus. Or put another way total admissions last year were 36,353,946. So far the number of confirmed cases is .0002% higher than last year.

    I can't honestly believe that such a small increase in patients because of this "pandemic" is even putting a strain on US hospitals yet. This whole thing is making my spider sense tingle hard. We've eventually shuttered the world economy over .000001% of the populace getting a serious flu.

    I can only come up with 3 possible conclusions.
    -The virus is worse than we are being told, though I don't know anyone personally who has contracted the illness and I know several in the medical field who are apparently are high risk of being exposed. China has said they are already seeing a downtrend in the amount of cases (though I don't trust China at all and think they are just trying to save face at this time.)
    -This was used specifically for an ulterior motive. Multiple possibilities about what it could be but regardless it will result in more government power and control.
    -Everyone is being acting overly panicked because of the media's continuous reaction to the virus and the only reason the government is reacting so strongly is because of a perceived push to do so from the media.

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    Originally Posted by Slayermanlet View Post
    Hospitals generally run close to capacity at all times
    Correct, that's why the US healthcare system is the best in the world. Tremendous profits!
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    Because the infections generally cluster around certain areas and hospitals are already usually at or near full capacity. If the cases were evenly distributed around the entire US then it wouldn't even be noticeable, but that's not how an infectious disease works is it?
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    Originally Posted by zinkhan99 View Post
    Unless a potential case arrives, doesn't inform beforehand that he/she has symptoms or that he/she may be a carrier, and everyone who interacted with him gets quarantined. Idk, different protocols at different hospitals I guess, but I've read a few stories where whole units were quarantined, or even hospitals.
    I've seen paramedics coming in wearing full PPE and mask on patient, but there are definitely going to be situations where exposed interactions happen.

    The damage can only be mitigated and shi t will slip through the cracks.

    Our first case had been going for dialysis prior to being confirmed.

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    No really, here in Raleigh someone some TP burglar is hitting every last store and buying it all right as the stores open.

    Unbelievable.
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    Girlfriend is a nurse in a major US hospital in Maryland. She said the emergency room is empty. There aren't a ton of patients coming in at all. Very strange. They have a couple covids already though
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    Originally Posted by jackamo2887 View Post
    Girlfriend is a nurse in a major US hospital in Maryland. She said the emergency room is empty. There aren't a ton of patients coming in at all. Very strange. They have a couple covids already though
    unusual, but not strange.

    people aren't going to the ER for a stubbed toe or paper cut these days
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    Originally Posted by wake_me View Post
    unusual, but not strange.

    people aren't going to the ER for a stubbed toe or paper cut these days
    but people aren't going in with symptoms that might be corona and might be a common cold or flu either
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    Originally Posted by XterraRob View Post
    I think because people are worried about the virus, they are being pushed to seek medical care if they believe they have the virus whereas normally, we usually stay home or hit a clinic or family doctor to get some anti-biotics until we feel better. I know several in the medical field that are freaking out about the coronavirus but the whole situation needs some perspective on why what's happening, is happening.

    Go on reddit. Plenty of people from all over the world working in hospitals who say they don't have a single case, and that its SO dead people are being sent home since the hospitals are empty... edit: even posters HERE are reporting the same..



    I don't think we have a pandemic like the propaganda media is pushing. Things are NOT as they seem imo...
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    Originally Posted by N0rds View Post
    Go on reddit. Plenty of people from all over the world working in hospitals who say they don't have a single case, and that its SO dead people are being sent home since the hospitals are empty... edit: even posters HERE are reporting the same..



    I don't think we have a pandemic like the propaganda media is pushing. Things are NOT as they seem imo...
    lmfaoooooooooooo
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    Originally Posted by N0rds View Post
    Go on reddit. Plenty of people from all over the world working in hospitals who say they don't have a single case, and that its SO dead people are being sent home since the hospitals are empty... edit: even posters HERE are reporting the same..



    I don't think we have a pandemic like the propaganda media is pushing. Things are NOT as they seem imo...
    Yea my sister works at a metropolitan hospital and said they have canceled all elective/non-emergent surgeries earlier this week and that everyone is anxious but that the ER is quiet. Also saying that they ones they had test positive were sent home to self quarantine.
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    Originally Posted by Dorich View Post
    lmfaoooooooooooo

    The desperation from the shill force is beyond obvious now. Why do you even try any more?

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