RIP Playstation 5 .... Weaker than Xbox Sex

[R3L3NTL3SS]

The difference isn't big, 2080 is more than enough

Game EFPS is the most important factor

Check the benchmarks of 2080:

GTA V 128 FPS

Overwatch 170 FPS

PUBG 151 FPS

Fortnite 169 FPS


Considering that the best TVs now are maxed out at 120HZ the extra FPS on the Xbox will not make a difference for TVs unless you connect them to those small gaming monitors that can do 144-240hz for competitive first person shooters

I'm expecting Sony will release a Pro version in the future once better TVs are released

1. None of those frame rates are at 4k so...
2. None of those are particularly demanding titles by today's standards

So again. Look at 4k benchmarks with more demanding games and ray tracing. (Both of which will be features of next gen consoles.) The 2080Ti GREATLY outperforms a 2080 when higher resolution and ray tracing come into play.

[KingSWRV]

1. None of those frame rates are at 4k so...
2. None of those are particularly demanding titles by today's standards

So again. Look at 4k benchmarks with more demanding games and ray tracing. (Both of which will be features of next gen consoles.) The 2080Ti GREATLY outperforms a 2080 when higher resolution and ray tracing come into play.

Can you do me a favor and stop posting? Everything you say is irritating. Thanks

[Lord_Lemon]

If you factor in PS5 is effectively 9TF after throttle, then it is only 3TF more than the X1X. Welcome to next gen boys.

[Kabamaro]

1. None of those frame rates are at 4k so...
2. None of those are particularly demanding titles by today's standards

So again. Look at 4k benchmarks with more demanding games and ray tracing. (Both of which will be features of next gen consoles.) The 2080Ti GREATLY outperforms a 2080 when higher resolution and ray tracing come into play.

2080 and 2080ti is 3.5 tf difference and we’re talking about 1.7 tf difference here

Console games are not going to run at max ultra settings anyway, so these benchmarks are not an indicator for how consoles are going to perform.

[phaginator]

Curious about price now.

[ChristmasFnatic]

Curious about price now.

Sony will aim for a $50 or even $100 cheaper console now that they know the fans are getting wet for an Xbox. And that is the purpose of a weaker spec I guess, so they can sell it cheaper.

[mgftp]

If you factor in PS5 is effectively 9TF after throttle, then it is only 3TF more than the X1X. Welcome to next gen boys.

God that reality stings. I still can't believe it's real. Gotta figure they have a PS5Pro coming. They can't be this stupid. Now it''ll be really interesting to see MS confirm and detail their poverty system which has been heavily rumored, as all we have heard about is the XseX

[R3L3NTL3SS]

Can you do me a favor and stop posting? Everything you say is irritating. Thanks

Stay mad

[PattBattmann]

How does a PC with a Ryzen 5 3600 compare to the Xbox Series X? That is what I have and am thinking that my PC may be good enough to resist the new Xbox.

[Lord_Lemon]

we’re talking about 1.7 tf difference here

[freeburn]

Great now I gotta upgrade my pc or else the console plebs will be outperforming me

[mgftp]

lmao

[rectifryer]

The difference isn't big, 2080 is more than enough

Game EFPS is the most important factor

Check the benchmarks of 2080:

GTA V 128 FPS

Overwatch 170 FPS

PUBG 151 FPS

Fortnite 169 FPS


Considering that the best TVs now are maxed out at 120HZ the extra FPS on the Xbox will not make a difference for TVs unless you connect them to those small gaming monitors that can do 144-240hz for competitive first person shooters

I'm expecting Sony will release a Pro version in the future once better TVs are released

Were those games releases in 2021 lol

[BG5150]

Just save up your Shekels and buy both.

[Kabamaro]

Were those games releases in 2021 lol

No but these benchmarks are for pc in ultra everything settings, Console games will be optimized for consoles at lower settings, there won’t be a big difference between xbox and ps5.

[latverian41]

This was to be expected at least by me.

Never been a psx fan.

X series will own but in the end it’s all about the games not the hardware

[ohiostate124]

https://kotaku.com/playstation-5-ver...ecs-1842401536

[ohiostate124]

I’m not some super knowledgeable tech guy but I’ve been looking about analysis and found this thread of reddit. This dude named OpticalPrime35 have some pretty in depth posts.
Still reading through it but its pretty interesting.

https://www.reddit.com/r/PS5/comment...rison/#fkuvbcm

Thoughts on this?

Audio is a gigantic hog. Upwards of 20% or more depending on just how heavy you are going with your 3D audio.

So take that 12TFlop number, which sounds nice, but remove 20% ( or more ) of that computational force and take it away from graphics compute and place it into Audio compute.

Now you have 9.6TFlops of muscle to place behind your graphics calculations and lighting and all that.

On the flip side. The GPU of the PS5 is not handling audio compute at all. So all 36CUs or whatever it is, is completely handling what it is built to handle. So the full 10.2Tflops peak is fully going toward graphic / lighting / shading / blah blah.

[J411]

One of the big problems was last generation when microsoft released weaker than the ps4. Microsoft later released a much more powerful version first with the 4k one, and then with the one x, but for most of the life of the generation xbox was the weaker console.

Now it seems that sony is the one releasing weaker. Be interesting to see if this has a big impact on sales. Also interesting how long it takes for sony to release a pro version that competes with the new xbox.

[mgftp]

I’m not some super knowledgeable tech guy but I’ve been looking about analysis and found this thread of reddit. This dude named OpticalPrime35 have some pretty in depth posts.
Still reading through it but its pretty interesting.

https://www.reddit.com/r/PS5/comment...rison/#fkuvbcm

Thoughts on this?

Sounds like fanboy cope to me. But the only real barometer is going to be how the first next gen multiplats run in comparison between the two systems Xboner got smoked in resolution and frame rates with 20% less Terafloppers this gen.

Still find it hard to believe this is it from Sony. Because they can't be that stupid?

[DeathUponUs]

the problem wit the xbox is that there is literally no reason to get one if you have a gaming PC. that is why Sony will still win.

[elterrible987]

How does a PC with a Ryzen 5 3600 compare to the Xbox Series X? That is what I have and am thinking that my PC may be good enough to resist the new Xbox.

xbox x is legit, this isnt like last gen that used underpowered CPU's meant for tablets.

both xbox x and ps5 are using basically an underclocked 3700x.

The GPU's of both are using NAVI 2 which doesnt even come out until the fall for PC, there arent a lot of real information yet, the teraflop spec doesnt mean much but the rumors that its 2080 level are pretty legit since this is the architecture that will compete with NVIDIAs 3000 series of GPU also not out yet.

I just bought a 3600 chip myself. My take is to wait and see once the next gen games start coming out and I will probably upgrade to the 4000 series CPU in a year or so when they are out and discounted. It will take some time for the next gen games to arrive but they should be able to fully take advantage of 8 core CPU's, nvme SSD and raytracing/next gen GPUs.

[elterrible987]

Sounds like fanboy cope to me. But the only real barometer is going to be how the first next gen multiplats run in comparison between the two systems Xboner got smoked in resolution and frame rates with 20% less Terafloppers this gen.

Still find it hard to believe this is it from Sony. Because they can't be that stupid?

I think there will definitely be a cycle of "pro" versions of the consoles.

I also dont think the differences will be that drastic. xbox one x is better spec wise over the ps4 pro in everyway but that doesnt mean Im going to rebuy my entire digital library for the other platform for a 5% difference in image quality. I think it will be the same with next gen with them having backwards compatibility.


Sony still hasnt shown their physical console. The dev kit is ugly as sin. The xbox was designed very well, it shouldnt get that loud with the single huge fan it has, it looks very reliable and sturdy. I was surprised it could hit 3.8ghz on all cores constantly. Sony is using the same chip, theirs is clocked lower, that means they dont have as good cooling solution.

[JPeeper]

I’m not some super knowledgeable tech guy but I’ve been looking about analysis and found this thread of reddit. This dude named OpticalPrime35 have some pretty in depth posts.
Still reading through it but its pretty interesting.

https://www.reddit.com/r/PS5/comment...rison/#fkuvbcm

Thoughts on this?

Series X also has a dedicated audio chip for 3D audio. I'd like to know why he thinks the Series X will use the GPU for sound when it has a dedicated audio card but the PS5 won't when they are configured the exact same.

The PS5 reddit is massive levels of cope and salt right now.

The raytracing on Sexbox also completely rips the PS5 to shreds, 44% more CU's to work on raytracing. It's why Mark Cerny was always saying "developers can use it if they want, but we're not forcing them to use the new technology". You fukhead, what's the point of new technology and a new generation if you don't want developers to use the new tech you dipchit. Massive levels of cope from Mark Cerny during yesterday's broadcast. 'cause he knows the Sexbox rips the PS5 to shreds in every metric except SSD.

Sony blew their load into the new SSD's which aren't even available to consumers right now so RIP anyone wanting to buy one, they'll be pricey AF. Literally the only advantage the PS5 has is slightly shorter load times. Dumbfuk copers on reddit thinking the PS5 will somehow get performance advantages from an SSD other than load times.


Every stat that Sony has published about the PS5 they use variable frequency and then use the most overclocked one they have to show the highest number, while Microsoft has been using constant freqeuncy, ie. not OC'd. Bitch move from Sony to inflate their pathetic stats.

[TBO1313]

[KingSWRV]

No but these benchmarks are for pc in ultra everything settings, Console games will be optimized for consoles at lower settings, there won’t be a big difference between xbox and ps5.

You would think these self proclaimed “nerds” on here would know a little bit about the basics by now.

[ChristmasFnatic]

As one site said:

XBSX - warrior class(made for power - so American)
PS5 - rogue class(made for efficiency - so Japanese)

[ohiostate124]

As one site said:

XBSX - warrior class(made for power - so American)
PS5 - rogue class(made for efficiency - so Japanese)

Someone said muscle car vs. rice rocket

[KingSWRV]

Someone said muscle car vs. rice rocket

was it really necessary to go there? really? in 2020...

[whitepaper]

Am I the only person waiting to see what it physically looks like? Really the only reason I watched the damn event