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    One thing is certain those Airbnb leveraged to the moon are so phucked.

    Real Estate is not going to escape this.
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    Originally Posted by savageoldman View Post
    agreed, not convinced the markets are recovering
    Agreed. This is fuked.
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    ^^^ Yep, numbers don't lie, keep watching this chit grow too....Imagine all the people sick who haven't been confirmed because not enough test kits....

    Originally Posted by chino3 View Post
    As much as I was waiting for another dip, there is still something sickening about seeing red almost all the across your portfolio lol. Only thing that has been green is CVS. I ended up DCA on several positions and gave up on SBUX and KO. I only have one potential bag that is of concern, but I think it's time to "check out" for the next year or two...
    I've stayed checked out through all of this. I got really lucky with bad luck if that makes any sense last year. Was gonna buy a house late September then girl broke up with me 5 days before closing the deal and I went to jail lol...

    I had sold 50%+ of my positions for the down payment on house but instead it helped for my bail fee, attorney fees and more BS with allot left over. Then because I was so stressed from court and everything else I decided to sell more in January when things were just ridiculously green and it was looking too good to be true.

    If that bad chit didn't happen to me I'd still probably be balls deep in the market. My mind is full of fuk thinking about this. I consider myself very lucky and I've learned allot. I still have about 20% invested but I can deal with that and I'll hold forever if I have to cuz our young selves have no time decay. Still in pretty big on T and NFLX w/ a lil ATVI and some marijuana stocks. Portfolio looks like chit now but everyone's does. One of my Dad's friends is down over 500k and using the "hold" plan.
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    anyone else decide to jump in this week and already find themselves having to average down after 10%-15% drops?

    lol
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    Originally Posted by cool-beans View Post
    anyone else decide to jump in this week and already find themselves having to average down after 10%-15% drops?

    lol
    me lol. got out on monday after 13%+ in 3 weeks, decided fuk it day later and went in again. for now -11%
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    I'm that I'm just gonna DCA on Facebook, Microsoft, and maybe Apple if it drops to 200-210. Keep it safe af this market is volatile as hell. Buffet just cut his losses on Delta so that's going to dip hard af on Monday.
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    Thinking about just cutting my losses on the delta stock and PLAY I purchased earlier. Didn't put too much into them so might be smarter to just cut it while its worth something. I'm seeing death flags everywhere about those two.
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    Dont cut your loses unless you need money guys. Seems pretty simple to me.
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    Originally Posted by Galindo62 View Post
    Dont cut your loses unless you need money guys. Seems pretty simple to me.
    Appreciate the input. Probably just need to delete my trading app for now and walk away lol
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    Originally Posted by mike.hunt View Post
    Is anybody actually making money trading options with the IV so high and irrational market movements? These last 2-3 weeks have been a complete chit show
    Yes. Made a grip on DRI and APA puts which were closed last week. I still own a few APA puts @$7.50.

    $30 RDS.A calls were money earlier this week. Cashed half and riding the rest.

    You can’t take the British Pension system (RDS.A) down.

    Currently in 30% cash and 25% of invested funds are in WFC at a cost average of $29ish and GOOGL @1,100ish.

    I think India will be the next shoe to drop. Middle East and Africa to follow.
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    Originally Posted by Galindo62 View Post
    Dont cut your loses unless you need money guys. Seems pretty simple to me.
    Correction **Don’t cash out if the fundamentals still hold and you have the risk appetite.

    1. If you don’t have the risk appetite, get out and evaluate how you got into a trade where it turned into a scenario where you couldn’t wait it out.

    2. Question whether fundamentals or investor psychology (news) has impacted sentiment and how that will play out over your potential holding period.


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    Delta is so screwed. CEO announced 60 million dollar loses in a day. Warren selling his shares. I still think out of all the airlines that will go tits up, American Airlines goes bust first.

    How will Vegas survive? (srs) The whole city shut down. Caesar, MGM, LVS, Wynn are donezo. Majority of hotel companies matter of fact.
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    Originally Posted by Rai9 View Post
    Buffet just cut his losses on Delta so that's going to dip hard af on Monday.
    He has over a billion dollars remaining in delta. Barely touched his holdings lol.

    That said, rumblings about him reducing holdings to be under 10% ownership so he can make a move in the industry. Also noting that he didn’t touch AAL... the plot thickens

    Originally Posted by Galindo62 View Post
    Dont cut your loses unless you need money guys. Seems pretty simple to me.
    This, unless the company is 100% going under. Fwiw, not sure if I shared my introduction to the market, but it was like a month or two prior to the crash of 08. I put in every penny I had, which wasn’t a LOT but a lot to a college kid. I don’t remember why, but I actually got to call into Mad Money to discuss a decision to hold or cut a stock at a loss(Krispy kreme), and another stock (LUV) And what felt like over night I saw it cut in half. I was floored. I felt like I would’ve done better and at least got a free drink had I gone to the casino.

    I just said fuggit, I’ll come back to this in some years. Literally didn’t touch it for 6 or more years. Randomly checked and saw the KKD was no more and I actually got a cash buy out lol, and LUV had doubled from when I originally got in (quadruple what I saw the low of!).

    Not saying this sort of thing will always correct itself, I mean with KKD I could’ve been really fooked, but I wasn’t in a position where I needed the money at such a discount.
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    Lel even when the market is red my puts aren't gaining anything. IV crush of piss, never lucky.
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    Originally Posted by Unstumpable View Post
    Thinking about just cutting my losses on the delta stock and PLAY I purchased earlier. Didn't put too much into them so might be smarter to just cut it while its worth something. I'm seeing death flags everywhere about those two.
    Originally Posted by Galindo62 View Post
    Dont cut your loses unless you need money guys. Seems pretty simple to me.
    True for an index fund like SPY, but companies can go under. If if they don't necessarily go bankrupt, some companies are reduced to penny stock levels and never really recover. Buying cruises, airlines, hotels, etc. is basically gambling at this point. You might hit it big in a few years, or you might lose everything as it goes to 0.
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    Originally Posted by MediocreGains View Post
    True for an index fund like SPY, but companies can go under. If if they don't necessarily go bankrupt, some companies are reduced to penny stock levels and never really recover. Buying cruises, airlines, hotels, etc. is basically gambling at this point. You might hit it big in a few years, or you might lose everything as it goes to 0.
    Longer this virus crap goes on the bigger the surprises are gonna be with single stocks. I'm only buying indexes, might make an exception for something like Microsoft, maybe.
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    Originally Posted by HYMENATOR View Post
    Longer this virus crap goes on the bigger the surprises are gonna be with single stocks. I'm only buying indexes, might make an exception for something like Microsoft, maybe.
    I'm waiting for Microsoft to get below 150 as well. I already started small positions in Coke, Johnson & Johnson, and Gilead and will build on them as we go.

    But yeah, I've mostly just been trading inverse etfs, though my timing is hit or miss.
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    Originally Posted by Mj-drewfan32 View Post
    Delta is so screwed. CEO announced 60 million dollar loses in a day. Warren selling his shares. I still think out of all the airlines that will go tits up, American Airlines goes bust first.

    How will Vegas survive? (srs) The whole city shut down. Caesar, MGM, LVS, Wynn are donezo. Majority of hotel companies matter of fact.
    He's selling shares so he doesn't own more than 10% of the company. As for Vegas who cares, especially WYNN, hopefully they legalize online gambling again.
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    Originally Posted by dopamine72 View Post
    ^^^ Yep, numbers don't lie, keep watching this chit grow too....Imagine all the people sick who haven't been confirmed because not enough test kits....


    I've stayed checked out through all of this. I got really lucky with bad luck if that makes any sense last year. Was gonna buy a house late September then girl broke up with me 5 days before closing the deal and I went to jail lol...

    I had sold 50%+ of my positions for the down payment on house but instead it helped for my bail fee, attorney fees and more BS with allot left over. Then because I was so stressed from court and everything else I decided to sell more in January when things were just ridiculously green and it was looking too good to be true.

    If that bad chit didn't happen to me I'd still probably be balls deep in the market. My mind is full of fuk thinking about this. I consider myself very lucky and I've learned allot. I still have about 20% invested but I can deal with that and I'll hold forever if I have to cuz our young selves have no time decay. Still in pretty big on T and NFLX w/ a lil ATVI and some marijuana stocks. Portfolio looks like chit now but everyone's does. One of my Dad's friends is down over 500k and using the "hold" plan.
    Worked out nice kinda. What did you you go to jail for? Jail, cops, community service, court dates, attorneys, fines. Chit sucks.
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    What do you guys think the chances are that the auto industry goes bankrupt? Fiat chrysler,gm, ferrari, ford and tesla??
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    What do you guys think the chances are that the auto industry goes bankrupt? Fiat chrysler,gm, ferrari, ford and tesla??
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    Really?? Why?? It is such a capital intensive business. And they are not generating revenue really
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    Is anybody actually making money trading options with the IV so high and irrational market movements? These last 2-3 weeks have been a complete chit show
    At first I made some cash buying puts. But like you said the IV got too high and then started to get crushed so I went to selling cash covered puts. Had some that expired Friday and I didn't get assigned. Going to keep doing in next week. I just sell weeklies. Sell on monday and let it expire Friday or buy it back if the price is right.

    In some USO leaps also that I was bag holding for like 2 weeks but they turned a profit friday.
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    Really?? Why?? It is such a capital intensive business. And they are not generating revenue really
    Tesla delivered 88k cars last quarter. They’ll be just fine. GM just had a massive surge last week with 0% financing deals and lead the pickup truck sales. They are also creating ventilators until further notice. Another big move with GM is they’re co-developing an electric vehicle with Honda.

    Ford is partnering with 3m on increasing respirator production 6 fold. They will also partake in 0% financing and see huge movement.

    Are of these any of these things going to push them past or even up to projected earnings? No. But it will sure as chit help them stay afloat.
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    Originally Posted by ontclone View Post
    What do you guys think the chances are that the auto industry goes bankrupt? Fiat chrysler,gm, ferrari, ford and tesla??
    Tesla is cult stock so you can ignore them.


    But GM, Ford, Chrysler will need bailout.

    First quarter earnings for all of them is in May. Cant remember the exact dates.

    Ford is already in talks with government to bring back cash for clunkers.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-like-stimulus


    08/09 cash for clunkers program provided zero benefit.
    Read the economic benefit here (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Car_Al..._Rebate_System)




    In 08-09 sales fell off cliff. Expect the same this time...and these days leases are more idiotic than ever 72-84 months are available.

    Honestly its impossible to predict but its not out of the possibility that some of them don't make it, without filing for bankruptcy.

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    Originally Posted by Exiled93 View Post
    At first I made some cash buying puts. But like you said the IV got too high and then started to get crushed so I went to selling cash covered puts. Had some that expired Friday and I didn't get assigned. Going to keep doing in next week. I just sell weeklies. Sell on monday and let it expire Friday or buy it back if the price is right.

    In some USO leaps also that I was bag holding for like 2 weeks but they turned a profit friday.
    are you me? sold my USO calls Thursday and sold OXY cash covered puts
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    Worked out nice kinda. What did you you go to jail for? Jail, cops, community service, court dates, attorneys, fines. Chit sucks.
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    Extremely new at this but Started off with 1k and now at 3k playing the options game. I don’t know much but truly believe buying to hold right now isn’t the play if you’re just trying to make as much money as possible. I basically made all my money buying puts. Not too sure how sustainable that is but I feel like it’s better than buying and holding in this volatile market.
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    what are some beaten down stocks with great balance sheets you guys are looking at?

    not sketch ones that might go tits up like CCL lol
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    Originally Posted by Smok3d View Post
    Extremely new at this but Started off with 1k and now at 3k playing the options game. I don’t know much but truly believe buying to hold right now isn’t the play if you’re just trying to make as much money as possible. I basically made all my money buying puts. Not too sure how sustainable that is but I feel like it’s better than buying and holding in this volatile market.
    Went from 2k to 11k then down to 3k after that dead cat bounce. Options taketh and they giveth. Hoping these puts start printing in the coming weeks when markets wake the fukc up to corona. Inb4 priced in and I'm down 99.9%.
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