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    Originally Posted by CTSV648HP View Post
    In before "priced in" with respect to unemployment numbers.

    The market will rally. Until it doesn't. I just get the feeling we are being led into a trap with this rally. I'm mostly cash right now. I could definitely see the scenario where cold hard economic facts sink into everyone's heads and that starts the next leg down.
    I'm genuinely curious why you feel this way. I get that news will be **** for a while, but at the risk of sounding like the meme, I really do think it's priced in for now. The market trades on forward expectations, usually around 6 months or so from that I've read. The rally this week is primarily due to potential evidence of curve flattening in many cities, which leads to optimism about the economy reverting back to normal soon. As I said in another post, I only really see a downturn if expectations for a shutdown economy linger materially beyond sometime in May, which is really hard to predict either way. To me, companies like $SBUX today refusing to post guidance is what's more worrying. That means insiders are still unclear on what's going to happen in the near-term.

    That's why I think the best course of action is to either average into the indices or just hold your nose and buy quality (i.e. companies that previously had high growth, will revert to growth when the world starts turning again, and have the balance sheet to withstand 2-3 quarters of weak sales).
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    Originally Posted by nas_is_illmatic View Post
    I'm genuinely curious why you feel this way. I get that news will be **** for a while, but at the risk of sounding like the meme, I really do think it's priced in for now. The market trades on forward expectations, usually around 6 months or so from that I've read. The rally this week is primarily due to potential evidence of curve flattening in many cities, which leads to optimism about the economy reverting back to normal soon. As I said in another post, I only really see a downturn if expectations for a shutdown economy linger materially beyond sometime in May, which is really hard to predict either way. To me, companies like $SBUX today refusing to post guidance is what's more worrying. That means insiders are still unclear on what's going to happen in the near-term.

    That's why I think the best course of action is to either average into the indices or just hold your nose and buy quality (i.e. companies that previously had high growth, will revert to growth when the world starts turning again, and have the balance sheet to withstand 2-3 quarters of weak sales).
    I think you could definitely be right. I put about $10k in last week and of course I'm doing well. Have a bunch more to put in... Maybe my worry for another crash is just wishful thinking for another great buying opportunity. Now that I think about it, there's a lot of sentiment out there hungry for another bite at buying really cheap stuff, and it may not happen. Not enough fear right now.
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    I'm hearing so many smart people and traders saying this is just the beginning..that this is the dead cat. I wouldn't jump in now, just my opinion. I think we still go SPY 200.
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    Originally Posted by ghostfacedup View Post
    I'm hearing so many smart people and traders saying this is just the beginning..that this is the dead cat. I wouldn't jump in now, just my opinion. I think we still go SPY 200.
    We’ve all heard this every single day for the last month
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    Originally Posted by VegasLifter26 View Post
    Thought on which Oil company is the best? I was torn between Exxon, Shell, and Chevron..decided to go with exxon. Marathon and OXY look to be the lowest tho

    I want to lock in these dividends...shell is at like 10% and exxon at 8 ....ceo says they are maintaining

    Also, will be buying Sysco stock (SYY) i think they will be a good long term play

    I went in on Shell and WPX previously. I probably should have bought more when it was at a low but hindsight is always 20/20.


    Originally Posted by ghostfacedup View Post
    I'm hearing so many smart people and traders saying this is just the beginning..that this is the dead cat. I wouldn't jump in now, just my opinion. I think we still go SPY 200.
    Yes everyone has been saying that. My only question to them would be, how much have they made in the market since all this started? BecauseI've been making gains. I'm up over where I was before Rona. And I'm only averaging adding $300 per week into the market.
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    What do all you bulls day about current bond yields staying low and likely heading lower? Analysts keep saying this is a clear indication we'll be testing lows.
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    taking a close look at RTX..will probably buy some tomorow

    Originally Posted by CTSV648HP View Post
    What do all you bulls day about current bond yields staying low and likely heading lower? Analysts keep saying this is a clear indication we'll be testing lows.
    staying away from bank stocks
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    Green or red tommorow? Since OPEC is having there thing
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    I'm going green with oil on the upswing. Hopefully broad production cuts are agreed and adhered to, either that or the West will probably move a step closer to tariffs against OPEC+ oil dumping


    It won't be enough to totally offset the massive drop in demand from the pandemic, but it'll help bring up the industry
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    can someone aware me on USO? i've been making gainz on like BP/Shell/other oil companies but for some reasons i'm not making chit on USO, just flat even with averaging down. seems it's not very correlated with the rest of oil stocks
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    can someone aware me on USO? i've been making gainz on like BP/Shell/other oil companies but for some reasons i'm not making chit on USO, just flat even with averaging down. seems it's not very correlated with the rest of oil stocks
    Buybacks do not affect USO as much as they do the companies themselves.
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    how do you cover up job report


    Jobless claims: 6.6 million workers file for benefits

    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/coron...163825214.html



    you immediately turn on printers and print

    Federal Reserve unveils details of $2.3 trillion in programs to help support the economy

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    Buybacks do not affect USO as much as they do the companies themselves.
    cheers. so you mean that change in price of crude doesn't impact/affect USO as much as it does oil companies?
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    how do you cover up job report


    Jobless claims: 6.6 million workers file for benefits

    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/coron...163825214.html



    you immediately turn on printers and print

    Federal Reserve unveils details of $2.3 trillion in programs to help support the economy

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    What’s your recommendation?
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    Originally Posted by CTSV648HP View Post
    What do all you bulls day about current bond yields staying low and likely heading lower? Analysts keep saying this is a clear indication we'll be testing lows.
    Rates have been at historic lows for a long ass time and aren't going to change anytime soon globally. If anything, this makes equity even more attractive because who the hell wants to lock in money for 30 years at 1.3%? You're pretty much guaranteed to lose money at that level to inflation. I'm not an expert on treasuries, but the yield curve right now appears to be steepening, which indicates improving sentiment. Low yields are a problem if the curve is flattening/inverting, from what I understand.
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    another high flying day lmaoo
    New unemployment numbers released, and news that 1/3rd of renters couldn’t pay rent. Of course that’s a signal for the market to fly to the moon.
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    New unemployment numbers released, and news that 1/3rd of renters couldn’t pay rent. Of course that’s a signal for the market to fly to the moon.
    feels like a joke at this point...
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    Can someone give me a logical reason why stonks are up again today? this is a clown show.
    New stimulus announced. 2.3 trillion getting dumped into the economy.

    Stocks rising on inflation alone.

    Although even ultra bull geneticz thinks this is a bit much..we are only down 17% from highs.

    I'm trimming some off today in hopes of a minor pullback (yes a guess but hopefully a wise one)
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    Originally Posted by Geneticz View Post
    New stimulus announced. 2.3 trillion getting dumped into the economy.

    Stocks rising on inflation alone.

    Although even ultra bull geneticz thinks this is a bit much..we are only down 17% from highs.

    I'm trimming some off today in hopes of a minor pullback (yes a guess but hopefully a wise one)
    Im wondering if its a good idea to just jump back in at this point. I have a lot of dough in my Fidelity account and have been watching from the sidelines for almost a month...
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    Originally Posted by topperstyle View Post
    What’s your recommendation?
    Trade very small.

    This is just a massive bubble in making.

    Fed are legit going to keep dumping money till hyper inflation kicks in.


    This virus garbage couldn't have happened in worse time.

    Its election year and there is no way in hell Trump is gonna go into campaign with bad numbers. It seems they will keep squeezing the fed so hard no matter what consequences follow.
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    Originally Posted by DeusExTerra View Post
    Im wondering if its a good idea to just jump back in at this point. I have a lot of dough in my Fidelity account and have been watching from the sidelines for almost a month...
    Honestly man the past month was ideal to buy. Your risk is probably a bit larger than reward right now unless you are FINE being long. This is a fantastic buying opportunity still for the future.

    Although when the most powerful man in the world is pushing the markets up...why bet against them?

    He can push as much money as he wants into the economy. This will inevitably lead to a crash at some point...but when?
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