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    Originally Posted by twovalvekid View Post
    Stock market Haiku posts?
    He gave market date. April 12th.

    Right now they are trying to ram bill through $500 billion that will just hand out companies bail outs left and right.

    That will give them nice bridge to cover the two or so weeks left.

    Plus with fed interest rates at 0.

    Unlimited bond buys.

    And if couple million people die so be it.

    Regan trickle down economics 101.
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    Originally Posted by ghostfacedup View Post
    Just wait for Thursday.
    think we coming back down?
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    Originally Posted by trippped View Post
    think we coming back down?
    Even if it brings DOW back to 18,500 it will be impossible to catch it to gain anything.


    Volatility is dog shiit.


    You would need to sell puts/calls every few minutes to gain anything.


    Job report rumor its going to be 3.4 million unemployed.
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    Originally Posted by trippped View Post
    think we coming back down?
    The initial report (as mentioned on previous page) for jobs will be bad.

    Question is, is it priced in, and how much so?
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    Originally Posted by Carbonfibre View Post
    How market is reacting today.

    Its like everything is priced in.

    That job report is not even scaring the market.


    Just like stocks today.

    MCD announces closure stock price goes up. MGM etc.

    Today any stock you throw dart at is 15% +
    And there'll be a sell off again as people lock in profits.
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    Originally Posted by MediocreGains View Post
    And there'll be a sell off again as people lock in profits.
    You better hope so. Market makers and institutions will leave everyone in the dust and make you chase every stock.
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    Originally Posted by MediocreGains View Post
    And there'll be a sell off again as people lock in profits.
    Sure but chances everyone is making the right call in this market is very slim.
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    Originally Posted by twovalvekid View Post
    The initial report (as mentioned on previous page) for jobs will be bad.

    Question is, is it priced in, and how much so?
    Also, will it be for this past month or for February? Most of the unemployment has been kicking in the past couple weeks with more states implementing mandatory state home policies.
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    Originally Posted by BulkingIsHard View Post
    Also, will it be for this past month or for February? Most of the unemployment has been kicking in the past couple weeks with more states implementing mandatory state home policies.
    It will be till end of March.

    I bet they stall the bill till Thursday

    just to soften the initial unemployment report.
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    Originally Posted by twovalvekid View Post
    The initial report (as mentioned on previous page) for jobs will be bad.

    Question is, is it priced in, and how much so?
    The March jobs report will be bad, but its not going to be the bad one.

    Now the April jobs report...is going to be pure ****ing carnage.
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    Originally Posted by Kane_89 View Post
    The March jobs report will be bad, but its not going to be the bad one.

    Now the April jobs report...is going to be pure ****ing carnage.

    Agreed but wont matter if everything is almost "normal" when it comes out In may. Market will barely react.
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    Originally Posted by BulkingIsHard View Post
    Also, will it be for this past month or for February? Most of the unemployment has been kicking in the past couple weeks with more states implementing mandatory state home policies.
    The BLS report on April 3rd is for March 2020.

    The initial report...i *think* is for March but would need someone else to confirm.
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    Originally Posted by Geneticz View Post
    Agreed but wont matter if everything is almost "normal" when it comes out In may. Market will barely react.
    I'm seeing analyst estimates of up to 5 million jobs lost for the April report. Who knows. Our market is retarded so it may not even react.

    But I read a report earlier today and bought a ****load of INDA puts because chits about to hit the fan in India, no pun intended. Just starting to brew up and that situation is going to be 10x worse than Italy. Dead srs.
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    my thing with these unemployment numbers is that they are kind of fake. Once everything is opened back up all of these restraunt industry workers, cruise lines etc will have jobs again like nothing happened.
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    see the problem here.

    Too big to fail, even if few 737 crashed and 737 max orders evaporated.

    Wants $60 billion no strings attached.

    Virus is the blessing in disguise for Boeing.




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    honestly i cant believe trump is right here. im scared the corona gonna bite him and alot of people in the azz cuz of that.
    stock wise im really tempted to sell everything this thursday, and stand outside for a few weeks to see how the market behave. really scared we're gonna see huge drops in the next month..
    after today gainz im overall 5%+ so for me leaving now wont feel bad, emotionally wise.

    cant see how US will avoid a huge death toll if americans will go back to work in less than 3 weeks. and after alot of deaths ofcourse everyone will stop going to work again..
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    Originally Posted by ButcherSir View Post
    honestly i cant believe trump is right here. im scared the corona gonna bite him and alot of people in the azz cuz of that.
    stock wise im really tempted to sell everything this thursday, and stand outside for a few weeks to see how the market behave. really scared we're gonna see huge drops in the next month..
    after today gainz im overall 5%+ so for me leaving now wont feel bad, emotionally wise.

    cant see how US will avoid a huge death toll if americans will go back to work in less than 3 weeks. and after alot of deaths ofcourse everyone will stop going to work again..

    He is gambling, knows if market is weak come November he will lose election.

    The markets loves it, because even if this backfires they will still get bailouts. Its the republican way.

    Promise $1,000 to every american but inside the bill have $500 billion stashed for corporation because trickle down economics.

    He even goes on tv today says he will be the oversight on the bill.

    India tells 1.3 billion to stay home 21 days but this guy says soon USA will be open.


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    Originally Posted by Carbonfibre View Post
    He is gambling, knows if market is weak come November he will lose election.

    The markets loves it, because even if this backfires they will still get bailouts. Its the republican way.

    Promise $1,000 to every american but inside the bill have $500 billion stashed for corporation because trickle down economics.

    He even goes on tv today says he will be the oversight on the bill.

    India tells 1.3 billion to stay home 21 days but this guy says soon USA will be open.


    Future opened green so lets see how tmmrw goes.

    My few calls might profit tmmrw and than I will sit on sidelines.
    Lol @ totally ignoring the Dems' pure contempt for the American people this week, along with their gross ineptitude. Gtfoh. Trump said Easter you dimwit.

    Do you really want people like Pelosi, Schumer, and AOC controlling our economy? Lmao, please don't vote.
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    Nothing has changed - the market is simply being volatile with a serious downwards trend. Trumps announcement serves to drum up temporary market optimism, nothing more. Kickstarting the economy in April will fail. There's only so many politcian speeches and fed injects that'll patch the wall before it completely structurally fails.

    Bear markets are like downhill marathons with smaller uphills along the way.
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    what happens if a government bails out a company do the stocks owned by individuals are wiped away? from my understanding shareholders stocks are fuked if only the company declares bankruptcy. So if i owed stocks as boeing, and all the major airlines, cruise lines, casinos, auto, etc and gov bails them out then i would still own those stocks right?
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    Originally Posted by Carbonfibre View Post
    Promise $1,000 to every american but inside the bill have $500 billion stashed for corporation because trickle down economics.

    He even goes on tv today says he will be the oversight on the bill.

    India tells 1.3 billion to stay home 21 days but this guy says soon USA will be open.
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    Not gonna turn this into R&P but if the proposed bill grinds your gears, I truly hope you find issue with what the dems were trying to sneak in including $10k in student loan forgiveness, raising minimum wage to $18, all airlines to be carbon met neutral within 5 years (lol) and to also announce on every single flight what their environmental impact is, same day voter registration.... I’ll stop here... also jfl if you don’t think saving big business won’t help the Economy overall...

    And LMFAO at comparing third work nation India with US. What in the actual fukk

    Originally Posted by Mj-drewfan32 View Post
    what happens if a government bails out a company do the stocks owned by individuals are wiped away? from my understanding shareholders stocks are fuked if only the company declares bankruptcy. So if i owed stocks as boeing, and all the major airlines, cruise lines, casinos, auto, etc and gov bails them out then i would still own those stocks right?
    Depends on the conditions of the agreement. But a greater risk that you’ll lose everything than not. I think...
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    Big winners after the dust settles are gonna be airlines and Oil, In my opinion.... Ive got my eye on Southwest and Delta..Exxon mobile and Shell are also looking juicy

    really hope they can pass this bill but negotiating with Pelosi and Schumer has got to be the most challenging thing in the world. Im reading some of the stuff they are trying to sweep under the rug...utterly ridiculous
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    Originally Posted by Mj-drewfan32 View Post
    what happens if a government bails out a company do the stocks owned by individuals are wiped away? from my understanding shareholders stocks are fuked if only the company declares bankruptcy. So if i owed stocks as boeing, and all the major airlines, cruise lines, casinos, auto, etc and gov bails them out then i would still own those stocks right?
    Shares get diluted I think
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    Originally Posted by Mj-drewfan32 View Post
    what happens if a government bails out a company do the stocks owned by individuals are wiped away? from my understanding shareholders stocks are fuked if only the company declares bankruptcy. So if i owed stocks as boeing, and all the major airlines, cruise lines, casinos, auto, etc and gov bails them out then i would still own those stocks right?
    The case with GM was Chapter 11 bankruptcy.

    Government ended up owning more than 50% of GM and forced them to restructure and essentially stock was worthless.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genera...reorganization

    If you read Boeing CEO statement from today they will refuse any bailout if it evolves government having equity in it.


    I would just keep eye on the news.

    Its not like tmmrw Boeing announces they are bankrupt and trading is halted.

    Rumors would start to circulate first.
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    Originally Posted by VegasLifter26 View Post
    Best investments to be made when this is all said and done IMO are gonna be airlines and Oil. Ive got my eye on Southwest and Delta..Exxon mobile and Shell are also looking juicy

    really hope they can pass this bill but negotiating with Pelosi and Schumer has got to be the most challenging thing in the world. Im reading some of the stuff they are trying to sweep under the rug...utterly ridiculous
    When're you gonna pull the trigger on those airline stocks and the oil stocks? If the deal passes tonight is tomorrow a good time to buy again?
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    Originally Posted by Unstumpable View Post
    When're you gonna pull the trigger on those airline stocks and the oil stocks? If the deal passes tonight is tomorrow a good time to buy again?
    gonna add a little tomorow..i think futures are up. If this bill passes I think its a green light for me to jump back in. tomorow is a big day

    Keep in mind we are in a global economy tho, so if other countries are still shut down it may hurt us..I do see our relationship with china being VERY strained after this. It will be interesting to see what they do if we try to pull businesses out of their country
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