Coronavirus - Good time to car shop?

[KidGogeta]

Christ, those are canadian prices too??? Not bad at all! Especially the hellcat.

Honest if given the choice between those 2 cars, without a doubt the hellcat. Faster, more stout trans, engine just as good as the LT4. The hellcat has a way better blower though. The stock SC on the LT4's are good, but they choke up pretty easily.

The V3 CTSV is an amazing car but overpriced. Even used they're still overpriced. It still has a chitty auto and the cue infotainment system is one of the worse out there. You're basically paying whatever price of that V for the engine and the looks. It does look pretty good.

Also with the V, gotta be careful with the early year models. They suffer from the same symptoms the C7 Z06 guys go through with the auto. Not the overheating, but with the TC and shuddering issue. What corvette guys do when they get their auto Z is install a range module. To disable AFM.

Some people try the triple flush, install the AFM disable module and even then sometimes that doesn't work. Which results in the dealer having to replace the TC.

I think the hellcat will be more of a bulletproof car if you decide to beat on it often. I think with caddy, they suspect the owners to be middle to older men that will "sometimes" get on it but not beat on it like an average owner with a hellcat would. So i would think more parts would break with the caddy. But that's IMO.

If i was looking for a fast 4 door, a hellcat charger is the only thing that comes to mind. In that price range.

Yes Canadian prices thats why I was in shock , its like 33 usd lol, I'm like okay time to sell lmfao

Thanks for the advice man I appreciate it

[DrFeeIGood]

Not many deals actually. Most volume bonuses have been cut/reduced from the car manufactuers. Dealerships are focusing on gross profit per vehicle right now which typically doesnt boost well for deals.

BMW for example did cut their money factor, but they lowered residuals and incentives vs March so its a wash.

[Venom08]

There was a 2017 Audi R8 selling for $145k a week ago. Now it's $139k. So there's drops.

[blazenbb]

There was a 2017 Audi R8 selling for $145k a week ago. Now it's $139k. So there's drops.

Not sure if srs, only 6k is barely a 4% drop. You were talking 50k off a 2020 150k r8. Now that’s a deal

[Venom08]

Not sure if srs, only 6k is barely a 4% drop. You were talking 50k off a 2020 150k r8. Now that’s a deal

Yeah. It sold within a couple of days when they dropped it from $160k to $144k.

[samsbolton]

Not sure if srs, only 6k is barely a 4% drop. You were talking 50k off a 2020 150k r8. Now that’s a deal

Who pi$$ed on your chips? Ffs it’s very early days yet the US is barely just taking the situation seriously

[samsbolton]

There was a 2017 Audi R8 selling for $145k a week ago. Now it's $139k. So there's drops.

Sales are down 55% on the year here. I’m watching prices every week. In the market for a newish SRT very few to choose from over here and the exchange rate is killing me if I import..

[blazenbb]

Who pi$$ed on your chips? Ffs it’s very early days yet the US is barely just taking the situation seriously

Lmfao because someone corrects your outlandish statements? Urine idiot, find me around a 200k car for 100k new like you were saying and I’ll pay you 10k. Srs would put an ip ban on following through. Drfeelgood is spot on few posts above, you just talk out your freshly fisted ass

[samsbolton]

Lmfao because someone corrects your outlandish statements? Urine idiot, find me around a 200k car for 100k new like you were saying and I’ll pay you 10k. Srs would put an ip ban on following through. Drfeelgood is spot on few posts above, you just talk out your freshly fisted ass

1. You’re an alt, obviously
2. I didn’t say they would say yes to offering half price. I don’t know, neither do you
3. Drfeelisgood doesn’t even make any sense. You can’t focus on gross profit per vehicle if no one is buying. You are just trying to keep the lights on.

[blazenbb]

The mclaren dealer alone has at least 60 cars on the forecourt rotting. They’re not my cup of tea anyway, but let’s say they start at £200k and I walk in with half that..what choice do they have? My bet would be he’ll spend a day making phone calls with head office and they’ll sign me up to a NDA. They have cash to pay the bills and one less car rotting.

1. You’re an alt, obviously
2. I didn’t say they would say yes to offering half price. I don’t know, neither do you
3. Drfeelisgood doesn’t even make any sense. You can’t focus on gross profit per vehicle if no one is buying. You are just trying to keep the lights on.

I remember when trolling was actually funny, are you chit posting hammered? Just a page ago you bet they would take half off on a Mclaren. It’s been explained to you multiple times from different people why you won’t find any of these crazy deals. How can you not understand point 3? Like you said sales are down approx 50%. So if they increase their margins and are making 2x what they would have instead of giving 10k off discounts, they will make the same profit. Cars are still selling, one buddy has already sold 10 this month. With almost all being 50k+. Math and logic, not even once

[samsbolton]

I remember when trolling was actually funny, are you chit posting hammered? Just a page ago you bet they would take half off on a Mclaren. It’s been explained to you multiple times from different people why you won’t find any of these crazy deals. How can you not understand point 3? Like you said sales are down approx 50%. So if they increase their margins and are making 2x what they would have instead of giving 10k off discounts, they will make the same profit. Cars are still selling, one buddy has already sold 10 this month. With almost all being 50k+. Math and logic, not even once

See if he still has a job next month

[iabs]

Every thread in the misc turns into a pissing contest.

[blazenbb]

See if he still has a job next month

Dealerships already slimmed their employees weeks ago and are running on a skeleton crew. None of them are going anywhere except to cash their fat checks

[1QWIK7]

Yes Canadian prices thats why I was in shock , its like 33 usd lol, I'm like okay time to sell lmfao

Thanks for the advice man I appreciate it

Yeah dude wtf, for 33k US, i would have gotten 2 of them lol. 1 a daily, the other more "racecar", like gutted interior, slicks, more power of course etc.

Damn i wish a hellcat was that cheap for a 16. 16 hellcat chargers are still around 46-52k US depending on mileage. Which doesn't make sense because power dollars allow you to get a new 2020 for like 70, or a 2019 left over, if available, for under 70k.

[samsbolton]

Yeah dude wtf, for 33k US, i would have gotten 2 of them lol. 1 a daily, the other more "racecar", like gutted interior, slicks, more power of course etc.

Damn i wish a hellcat was that cheap for a 16. 16 hellcat chargers are still around 46-52k US depending on mileage. Which doesn't make sense because power dollars allow you to get a new 2020 for like 70, or a 2019 left over, if available, for under 70k.

Depreciation very low on all challengers/chargers it seems? I’m tending towards newer if I get one..

[1QWIK7]

Depreciation very low on all challengers/chargers it seems? I’m tending towards newer if I get one..

They have incredible resale value.

I see 2018 scat packs, although with options, the same price as a brand new 2020 scat pack with no options lol. Like literally the same price.

And 2017 and 2016 scat pack chargers only 2-3k cheaper than the 2018. Wtf.

I should have just bought one, not leased it. Used it for 3-4 years and probably would have broke even.

[samsbolton]

They have incredible resale value.

I see 2018 scat packs, although with options, the same price as a brand new 2020 scat pack with no options lol. Like literally the same price.

And 2017 and 2016 scat pack chargers only 2-3k cheaper than the 2018. Wtf.

I should have just bought one, not leased it. Used it for 3-4 years and probably would have broke even.

A chum just drove one for a few days as a hire, I was absolutely certain he would hate it.. he’s used to bimmers and lexi.. nope, he really liked it. The import and taxes is killer, but if I was over there it’s a no brainer..

[Vikes723]

not incredible deal but my bank got me 90 days deferred payments which is tight and if youre on a 7 year loan its not the end of the world can always refi after year and pay above the minimum payments until that year comes up

[Drago1985]

They have incredible resale value.

I see 2018 scat packs, although with options, the same price as a brand new 2020 scat pack with no options lol. Like literally the same price.

And 2017 and 2016 scat pack chargers only 2-3k cheaper than the 2018. Wtf.

I should have just bought one, not leased it. Used it for 3-4 years and probably would have broke even.

cool story bro

[MikeLowrrrey]

not incredible deal but my bank got me 90 days deferred payments which is tight and if youre on a 7 year loan its not the end of the world can always refi after year and pay above the minimum payments until that year comes up

I'm not financially savvy, but why would you refinance at 0 apr? I'd just take the 7 year loan and pay $100-$200extra/month. It's be paid off well before 7 years.

I wonder does this deal count towards used cars. Tired of my old car and want a manual Scat Pack. I hate the idea of a 7 year loan, so I'd just pay extra and get it out the way.

[1QWIK7]

A chum just drove one for a few days as a hire, I was absolutely certain he would hate it.. he’s used to bimmers and lexi.. nope, he really liked it. The import and taxes is killer, but if I was over there it’s a no brainer..

Lexus is the poverty of brands when comparing to actual luxury cars. Yes they're reliable, but that is it. No styling, chitty ass 2010 infotainment. But at least most of them have the LFA inspired digital gauge cluster!! Other than that, spend it on a real luxury car, something german like BMW, benz or audi.

When you get a car like a scat pack you're not getting it for the interior. You get it for it's engine and it's road presence.

I chose a scat pack charger because i wanted a v8 auto. That's it lol. They come with the incredible ZF 8 speed and i picked the charger because i like the way it looks over the challenger. Even though i'll rarely use the backseat in whatever car i choose.

The other option was a kia stinger GT. Almost went with that. The interior is incredible, the tech is incredible, and having AWD would have been sweet. But again, it's no V8. And i was trying to picture like a year into ownership, i know i'll get bored with the stinger. No "real" noise, sounds weak and it looks like a car you'll get bored with after a couple of months.

[iifymbro]

There's going to be some fantastic cars hitting the market as this thing shakes out. That high risk crowd in the USA collects some cool cars. Florida is going to be 'vette and viper buying nirvana.

woulda been real cool of covid-19 to wait a year or two so that a lot of C8 could get out in the market

[samsbolton]

Lexus is the poverty of brands when comparing to actual luxury cars. Yes they're reliable, but that is it. No styling, chitty ass 2010 infotainment. But at least most of them have the LFA inspired digital gauge cluster!! Other than that, spend it on a real luxury car, something german like BMW, benz or audi.

When you get a car like a scat pack you're not getting it for the interior. You get it for it's engine and it's road presence.

I chose a scat pack charger because i wanted a v8 auto. That's it lol. They come with the incredible ZF 8 speed and i picked the charger because i like the way it looks over the challenger. Even though i'll rarely use the backseat in whatever car i choose.

The other option was a kia stinger GT. Almost went with that. The interior is incredible, the tech is incredible, and having AWD would have been sweet. But again, it's no V8. And i was trying to picture like a year into ownership, i know i'll get bored with the stinger. No "real" noise, sounds weak and it looks like a car you'll get bored with after a couple of months.

Bimmer is bmw to be clear. Not saying there is anything special about Lexus, just that as those are the two car makes he is used to I thought he wouldn’t rate the dodge at all. It doesn’t exactly have a reputation for quality or refinement. He really liked it, can’t believe the American price, base v8 34k brand new?? Jesus. That gets you absolutely fuk all over here. Maybe a boxter lol.
It’s definitely the 2 door for me, I have a customer with both. I’d far prefer the manual.

U.K. update, my jaguar/Land Rover have taken all the cars off the forecourt, so it’s either shut or by appointment only.

[1QWIK7]

Bimmer is bmw to be clear. Not saying there is anything special about Lexus, just that as those are the two car makes he is used to I thought he wouldn’t rate the dodge at all. It doesn’t exactly have a reputation for quality or refinement. He really liked it, can’t believe the American price, base v8 34k brand new?? Jesus. That gets you absolutely fuk all over here. Maybe a boxter lol.
It’s definitely the 2 door for me, I have a customer with both. I’d far prefer the manual.

U.K. update, my jaguar/Land Rover have taken all the cars off the forecourt, so it’s either shut or by appointment only.

l know what bimmer is. There's a song from 2010 called bimmer, benz, or bentley lol.

There is a reason why he would like a dodge, when he's used to bimmers and lexus's. Think about it lol.

[jwtiger69]

I am starting to send out emails to multiple dealers. I am straight up asking for 10k of MSRP (starting point) before any incentives. They are all advertising 6k right now. Will it happen? Maybe... But I am having fun with it.

[KidGogeta]

I'm lowballing the **** outta used cars that are posted by dealers, worth a shot

[1QWIK7]

I'm lowballing the **** outta used cars that are posted by dealers, worth a shot

Get that hellcat man.

Dat supercharger whine plus the amazing ZF 8 speed.



Like who wouldn't want to experience something like this? Even if you're not a fan of dodge products, or these types of cars in general, this is just amazing.

I can't see how people would prefer a 4cyl or a 6cyl, whether it's fast or not, over the sound, the torque, the aggressiveness of a V8. And supercharged too. Can't beat it.

[Heaney]

No I am not. If you can barely scrape the payments together for 7 years it is far more of a liability than an asset. Lots of vehicles have a 3 year warranty. So what happens in year 5 when it breaks down and you don't have the money to fix it and yet you still have 2 years of payments left?

Who said he can barely scrape the payments together?

[anonymous]

wish I'd waited for this TBH

Ford is massively in debt and overleveraged because of their focus on retarded electric memecars (unironically, thanks Obama) so unless China buys them up then they and GM are likely going to go under if this bullchit goes on for much longer

going to be some amazing deals soon, sadly

[1QWIK7]

wish I'd waited for this TBH

Ford is massively in debt and overleveraged because of their focus on retarded electric memecars (unironically, thanks Obama) so unless China buys them up then they and GM are likely going to go under if this bullchit goes on for much longer

going to be some amazing deals soon, sadly

Dude i'm about to cancel the order on the scat pack and just getting a hellcat then.

Ford is phucked though. But so are a lot of manufacturers.

Phuck so i just wait for better deals this summer before getting the charger? Idk what to do now!!!

I have a daily so it's not like i need a car to go to work. But i'm phucking dying on getting this already.