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    Originally Posted by Fishman15 View Post
    Do you think we are going to have any resemblance of a normal life if this goes on until we all have a vaccine? That's a fantasy world...
    Quick, reliable testing is the key to getting back to normal. If that doesn’t happen then, yes, things won’t be back to normal until we have a vaccine.
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    Originally Posted by 7Seconds View Post
    Quick, reliable testing is the key to getting back to normal. If that doesn’t happen then, yes, things won’t be back to normal until we have a vaccine.
    So we are going to test every human being on earth? What happens if they contract the virus after their test? Do we test every human being daily for the next 10 years? You are not being realistic...
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    Finally got up the guts to cut my hair and it turned out well, helps that its easy since all I need is a #6 and go to town on it. Going to continue after Rona is decimated and will save $20 every 2 months.
    Great. I might try it. My hair get very wavy and long.
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    Originally Posted by Fishman15 View Post
    So we are going to test every human being on earth? What happens if they contract the virus after their test? Do we test every human being daily for the next 10 years? You are not being realistic...
    No that’s isn’t realistic, fortunately that’s not what I am saying.
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    I read that when it's in your throat you can drink hot liquids every 20 minutes and wash it into your stomach where your gastric acid will neutralize it. Seems plausible.
    No, it don't. Let me break this down in street talk, like Johnny Bodyhard would say it: "If it's in your damn throat, it's all over your ass, and like a tattoo, it 'aint washing out. Real talk."
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    Originally Posted by 7Seconds View Post
    Quick, reliable testing is the key to getting back to normal. If that doesn’t happen then, yes, things won’t be back to normal until we have a vaccine.
    Even with a vaccine millions either won't have access to it or if they do they will refuse because they are part of the anti vaccine crowd.
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    Originally Posted by 7Seconds View Post
    No that’s isn’t realistic, fortunately that’s not what I am saying.
    Mass antibody testing would be a better next step. Do them in tandem, do you have it now/have you already had it and recovered. Those recovered would be immune, at least to the current circulating strain.
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    Originally Posted by Corbi View Post
    the anti vaccine crowd.
    These idiots have been noticeably silent lately....
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    Originally Posted by Bando View Post
    These idiots have been noticeably silent lately....
    I have one at work, takes everything I can to keep from strangling those sorts.
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    Originally Posted by Corbi View Post
    I have one at work, takes everything I can to keep from strangling those sorts.
    Aren't you the guy claiming this is a media hoax though?
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    Originally Posted by Bando View Post
    Aren't you the guy claiming this is a media hoax though?
    Has zero to do with being an anti vac nut and no I never used the word hoax, I said the media is turning the hype meter up to 11 on this, prove me wrong?
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    Originally Posted by Corbi View Post
    prove me wrong?
    You have a bad heart condition and you're not taking this seriously, insofar as taking selfies in big groups of people.

    I like you because you work hard and represent American values but honestly sometimes you act like an idiot.
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    Originally Posted by Bando View Post
    You have a bad heart condition and you're not taking this seriously, insofar as taking selfies in big groups of people.

    I like you because you work hard and represent American values but honestly sometimes you act like an idiot.
    2 things:
    #1 no heart condition, genetic defect in the mitral valve, all fixed and better than new.
    #2 I don't buy into all the bull$hit being spewed around, far more people have recovered or ever had little to no symptoms vs those who have or will die. Your chances of dying from this are so small they aren't worth discussing. But by all means continue to be afraid and take marching orders from the so called "experts" who change their minds by the hr on what this is, how it's transmitted, etc.
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    Originally Posted by Corbi View Post
    ... Your chances of dying from this are so small they aren't worth discussing....
    You mean... Your chances of dying are very low.
    But how about the elderly people in your neighborhood, a kid undergoing chemo, someone with severe asthma or COPD, an automimune condition, the list goes on... Their odds are quite different and I'm sure some people in your wider neighborhood will have conditions or advanced age even if you don't personally know them.

    I agree the media absolutely delights in presenting the worst possible scenarios for everything and reporting only bad news (plus selective due to political agenda), but even when sensibly moderating the media BS and bias, it's still a bad situation.

    Most of us feel a responsibility to the vulnerable members of the community even if we feel our personal odds for a non serious Covid outcome are favourable.



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    These idiots have been noticeably silent lately....
    Oh? I hear them all coughing, I thought they were just trying to politely catch our attention?

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    Aren't you the guy claiming this is a media hoax though?
    To be fair the response from part of our government was to down play this entire thing. Many just followed that lead and are now just catching up. My closest friend was like that too. Now hes on board and understands what "doubling rate" means and how dangerous this can be even for those whom you'd think should be OK, even if that means just being a carrier. But we still have a segment who would rather listen to a "cheerleader for America" than an actual Dr who served 6 administrations trying to discredit him. I'll listen to the doc.

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    Finally got up the guts to cut my hair and it turned out well, helps that its easy since all I need is a #6 and go to town on it. Going to continue after Rona is decimated and will save $20 every 2 months.
    Glad it worked out for ya, 6 is long so a little easier that a 2 or a 1.
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    Originally Posted by OldFartTom View Post
    You mean... Your chances of dying are very low.
    But how about the elderly people in your neighborhood, a kid undergoing chemo, someone with severe asthma or COPD, an automimune condition, the list goes on... Their odds are quite different and I'm sure some people in your wider neighborhood will have conditions or advanced age even if you don't personally know them.

    I agree the media absolutely delights in presenting the worst possible scenarios for everything and reporting only bad news (plus selective due to political agenda), but even when sensibly moderating the media BS and bias, it's still a bad situation.

    Most of us feel a responsibility to the vulnerable members of the community even if we feel our personal odds for a non serious Covid outcome are favourable.


    We are the elderly people in our neighborhood, my wife has asthma and neither of us is freaking out. I also had my spleen removed when I was 19 so have that going against me as far as fighting infections but I do get a flu shot every year as a precaution. Just use basic care and caution and everything will be fine plus as I have mentioned previously I am pretty damn certain I already had a milder case of Rona in January...not everyone gets the same symptoms.
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    Not sure if I will get this completely right but this is how Covid-19 was explained to me by a doctor friend the other day. Covid-19 affects people differently because of genetics and experience of your immune system. There are two important decisions your body must make. The first is how aggressively does the body want to fight the virus when it initially enters your body. Usually this is at the level of your throat before it gets into your lungs. If your body succeeds in fending off the virus at this level, you will have mild to no symptoms. If your body fails to fight off the virus at this level, it will enter your lungs. This second part is where your body has to walk a fine line. There is a degree of variability of your immune system to decide how much “ammo”it wants to throw at the virus. If your immune system is filled with accurate snipers you will have no problem clearing the virus from your lungs. Now if it panics and starts throwing grenades at anything that moves, it will kill much of your healthy lung tissue and clog up the airways with fluid causing you to essentially drown yourself. Of course you might be saved if your medical professionals stick a tube down your throat and connect you to a machine that forces air into your lungs for days. There’s is nothing you can do to improve the accuracy or measured response of your immune system. Covid 19 is no joke. Until we get a vaccine we are all playing Russian roulette when we make contact with others.
    These are the sort of comments that come across as sensational. I can assure you there is no pleasant way to pass from acute respiratory failure, and dead is dead, whether it's the flu or covid.






    Originally Posted by OldFartTom View Post
    You mean... Your chances of dying are very low.
    But how about the elderly people in your neighborhood, a kid undergoing chemo, someone with severe asthma or COPD, an automimune condition, the list goes on... Their odds are quite different and I'm sure some people in your wider neighborhood will have conditions or advanced age even if you don't personally know them.

    I agree the media absolutely delights in presenting the worst possible scenarios for everything and reporting only bad news (plus selective due to political agenda), but even when sensibly moderating the media BS and bias, it's still a bad situation.

    Most of us feel a responsibility to the vulnerable members of the community even if we feel our personal odds for a non serious Covid outcome are favourable.
    There is no stopping individuals who are the most vulnerable from quarantining themselves. My going to work or a bar has nothing to do with high risk individuals following proper social distancing and proper usage of PPE when in high risk situations.

    Believing there are better options than shutting down a nation isn't irresponsible. It's a worthy discussion.


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    Originally Posted by Jtbny View Post
    To be fair the response from part of our government was to down play this entire thing. Many just followed that lead and are now just catching up. My closest friend was like that too. Now hes on board and understands what "doubling rate" means and how dangerous this can be even for those whom you'd think should be OK, even if that means just being a carrier. But we still have a segment who would rather listen to a "cheerleader for America" than an actual Dr who served 6 administrations trying to discredit him. I'll listen to the doc.
    Medical experts are polarized on this, and constantly shifting the goal posts on this. You can listen to who ever you want, it doesn't mean the specific medical expert you're listening to is right. However, it's always helpful to look through the science and if you have any worthy studies, I'm always interested.

    If someone isn't taking it seriously or think it's no big deal feel free to catch the rona and report back after exposing it to their entire circle. My guess is they won't. Prove me wrong...
    For every 1% of unemployment the suicide rates increase by 1% and could cause an additional 20'000 - 40'000 deaths. Domestic abuse is estimated to have risen by 24%. Access to food security has been diminished for many of seniors and children across America. Hospitals have stopped many of their services and care in general have diminished. Supply chains have been broken and many plunged into poverty. I don't know your situation, but my woman and I are both still able to work and our lives haven't really been interrupted... but not everyone is that fortunate. The loss of life from a recession is very real.

    I'm assuming you are not heartless and you do care about those people too. You're study of the evidence just lead you to believe something different. This is why I would rather discuss the numbers and studies instead of making highly polarizing, judgmental comments.
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    Hospitals have stopped many of their services and care in general have diminished.
    Fact.
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    These idiots have been noticeably silent lately....

    That's because I'm only anti-vaccine for ME. I've never gotten a vaccine or flu shot, and why would I? I've not had a flu in a decade, at least, or even a cold.

    Perhaps I got a shot as a child, without my control? But nothing as an adult.
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    Originally Posted by acrawlingchaos View Post
    Medical experts are polarized on this, and constantly shifting the goal posts on this. You can listen to who ever you want, it doesn't mean the specific medical expert you're listening to is right. However, it's always helpful to look through the science and if you have any worthy studies, I'm always interested.
    Great. Show me where medical experts, without a political agenda (IE the Surgeon General),are polarized on this. I could use some good news and would love to read how wrong Dr. Fauci is. I would have the same access to the small amount of info you do so I usually trust people like Fauci who have decades of XP on this rather than those who go by "feelings". /shrug

    The info changes daily as more data is collected. I haven't once seen any single medical expert who's not beholden to some agenda do anything but confirm this is bad and potentially could be worse. What I have seen is an administration lying about the severity and playing with peoples lives. That includes the mayor of NYC who in Feb encouraged NYers to live their normal lives and go to the movies.

    For every 1% of unemployment the suicide rates increase by 1% and could cause an additional 20'000 - 40'000 deaths. Domestic abuse is estimated to have risen by 24%. Access to food security has been diminished for many of seniors and children across America. Hospitals have stopped many of their services and care in general have diminished. Supply chains have been broken and many plunged into poverty.
    So whats the answer? Maybe if the majority would have/would take this more seriously we could speed this up and get back to life. That would be wonderful.

    I don't know how to address suicide and domestic abuse issues. I really wish none of this was happening but are we going to play the game of trading lives? I wonder how many less people are dying from car accidents or industrial accidents as a result of shelter in place. 38K people died in 2019 in a car accident so I wonder how many lives have been saved.


    I don't know your situation, but my woman and I are both still able to work and our lives haven't really been interrupted... but not everyone is that fortunate. The loss of life from a recession is very real.
    My situation is I have 2 kids that I need to worry about not just my own. Our lives have drastically changed and the longer this goes on the more it will change. However, that beats lose of life any day.

    I'm assuming you are not heartless and you do care about those people too. You're study of the evidence just lead you to believe something different. This is why I would rather discuss the numbers and studies instead of making highly polarizing, judgmental comments.
    Where is my judgmental comment? It's a fact that this was downplayed and then parroted for weeks before reality set in.

    My opinion is based on what I see daily. The numbers are climbing fast, although thankfully for today were flat in NY. We can talk numbers and I would LOVE for this to go away but those who continue to downplay this aren't helping. That's my opinion anyway and understand if others don't see it that way. I can only do my part which is to shelter in place and ONLY go to the grocery store when necessary and stay away from others.

    I'm fully aware I'm being overly cautious here. If I'm wrong I'd be thrilled but if I'm right it beats the alternative. YMMV.
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    Originally Posted by Jtbny View Post

    It's a fact that this was downplayed and then parroted for weeks before reality set in.

    NY leaders including Big Bill and health admin stated this was not a big deal, GO OUT, LIVE, PARADE!
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    Originally Posted by LWW View Post
    NY leaders including Big Bill and health admin stated this was not a big deal, GO OUT, LIVE, PARADE!
    Ya I referenced that in my post.
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    Great. Show me where medical experts, without a political agenda (IE the Surgeon General),are polarized on this. I could use some good news and would love to read how wrong Dr. Fauci is. I would have the same access to the small amount of info you do so I usually trust people like Fauci who have decades of XP on this rather than those who go by "feelings". /shrug
    I've posted this study by Dr. Fauci now several times in this thread, from the New England Journal of Medicine.

    https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMe2002387

    If one assumes that the number of asymptomatic or minimally symptomatic cases is several times as high as the number of reported cases, the case fatality rate may be considerably less than 1%. This suggests that the overall clinical consequences of Covid-19 may ultimately be more akin to those of a severe seasonal influenza (which has a case fatality rate of approximately 0.1%) or a pandemic influenza (similar to those in 1957 and 1968) rather than a disease similar to SARS or MERS, which have had case fatality rates of 9 to 10% and 36%, respectively.
    The r0 is slightly higher than previous flu epidemics. (2.2 vs 1.8). Which is most likely to go down once all data is in.

    https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-pers...what-does-mean

    The info changes daily as more data is collected. I haven't once seen any single medical expert who's not beholden to some agenda do anything but confirm this is bad and potentially could be worse. What I have seen is an administration lying about the severity and playing with peoples lives. That includes the mayor of NYC who in Feb encouraged NYers to live their normal lives and go to the movies.
    The source I listed is from a source you specified as reliable.

    So whats the answer? Maybe if the majority would have/would take this more seriously we could speed this up and get back to life. That would be wonderful.

    I don't know how to address suicide and domestic abuse issues. I really wish none of this was happening but are we going to play the game of trading lives? I wonder how many less people are dying from car accidents or industrial accidents as a result of shelter in place. 38K people died in 2019 in a car accident so I wonder how many lives have been saved.
    Maybe if someone hadn't blown this out of proportion with wild and irresponsible claims of 3%+ death rates and non stop hyper focused coverage, we never would have had to go through this in the first place.

    The answer is, if you're worried, nothing is stopping you from social distancing and nothing is stopping you and your family from using proper PPE. Except that people were panicked into hoarding items they don't need so people that are actually vulnerable don't have access to PPE or healthcare.
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    Originally Posted by acrawlingchaos View Post
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    We obviously see this situation differently but I'll ask again; what is your solution if shelter in place is the wrong one? It's too late to just go back to normal but looking back what would you have done differently with the benefit of hindsight. Ill start...

    I would have not acted like this was "just the flu" with "15 infected soon to be zero" and not said "this will be gone soon. Nothing to worry about". Instead, I would have avoided slamming my head in the sand because I was worried about reelection and the markets and would've crafted a cautious but realistic assessment, with the caveat that the information was incomplete and bound to change and inform the American people that preventive actions would be likely be necessary. I would have reassured the public that our best and brightest were on the case and that we as a country would be taking this seriously.

    What we got instead was downplaying this as a Chinese bat nothing burger and THEN calling any coverage just another democratic hoax while things continued to escalate, getting much worse globally and at home, practically forcing the media to overact due to poor leadership and inconsistent messaging that aligned to the actual situation. The back peddling after more was coming out has just been the cherry on top.
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    Originally Posted by Jtbny View Post

    I would have not acted like this was "just the flu" with "15 infected soon to be zero" and not said "this will be gone soon. Nothing to worry about". Instead, I would have avoided slamming my head in the sand because I was worried about reelection and the markets and would've crafted a cautious but realistic assessment, with the caveat that the information was incomplete and bound to change and inform the American people that preventive actions would be likely be necessary. I would have reassured the public that our best and brightest were on the case and that we as a country would be taking this seriously.
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