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    Can a woman who DB bench 30 kg for reps be considered stronger than the average male?

    Like this girl?
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    Or even among men who doesn't lift most them would be stronger than her?

    She can throw some punches
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    Yeah, the average for new male clients I get with no lifting history is like 25-35lb for dumbbell press. Takes most guys at the very least several months of serious lifting to be able to hit 70s, probably closer to 1 year or more.

    That girl is big, she would mog 95% of non-lifting males.
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    Originally Posted by proteinsnake View Post
    Yeah, the average for new male clients I get with no lifting history is like 25-35lb for dumbbell press. Takes most guys at the very least several months of serious lifting to be able to hit 70s, probably closer to 1 year or more.

    That girl is big, she would mog 95% of non-lifting males.
    Would she mog most men even in a physicall fight?
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    Would she mog most men even in a physicall fight?
    I'd say most yes probably.

    The average man is a pathetic twink so not that hard.
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    Originally Posted by proteinsnake View Post
    I'd say most yes probably.

    The average man is a pathetic twink so not that hard.
    The average American man 20 years old and up weighs 197.9 pounds .

    Would be extremely impressive a 19yr old 160 pounds girl beating up a 198 pounds guy
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    Originally Posted by proteinsnake View Post
    Yeah, the average for new male clients I get with no lifting history is like 25-35lb for dumbbell press. Takes most guys at the very least several months of serious lifting to be able to hit 70s, probably closer to 1 year or more.

    That girl is big, she would mog 95% of non-lifting males.
    According DB bench press standard she is insert in the intermediate lifters men ("An intermediate lifter has trained regularly in the technique for at least two years") and Stronger than 50% of lifters
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    Originally Posted by proteinsnake View Post
    Yeah, the average for new male clients I get with no lifting history is like 25-35lb for dumbbell press.
    This can’t be real
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    She could be stronger at specifically benching 30kg but she still won’t be stronger then most men overall
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    As in 30kg in each hand?
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    Originally Posted by BeginnerGainz View Post
    She could be stronger at specifically benching 30kg but she still won’t be stronger then most men overall
    but bench press is one of the most complete upper body exercises. it involves evey torso and upper body muscles
    I think it would be a great strength indicative. It doesn't mean that her punch would be more powerful than of a 220 pounds untrained man
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    Originally Posted by guitarr000 View Post
    but bench press is one of the most complete upper body exercises. it involves evey torso and upper body muscles
    I think it would be a great strength indicative. It doesn't mean that her punch would be more powerful than of a 220 pounds untrained man
    she still probably isn't beating the average 5'9 180 lb male.

    maybe some frail 5'4 110 lb twink who doesn't lift.
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    she still probably isn't beating the average 5'9 180 lb male.

    maybe some frail 5'4 110 lb twink who doesn't lift.
    in bench? a 180 lbs beginner male can DB bench 41 pounds for one rep and a novice 64 pounds accordind the bench press standard https://strengthlevel.com/strength-s...bench-press/lb
    she is insert in the intermediate lifters men ("An intermediate lifter has trained regularly in the technique for at least two years") and Stronger than 50% of male lifters according this site
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    Originally Posted by guitarr000 View Post
    in bench? a 180 lbs beginner male can DB bench 41 pounds for one rep and a novice 64 pounds accordind the bench press standard https://strengthlevel.com/strength-s...bench-press/lb
    she is insert in the intermediate lifters men ("An intermediate lifter has trained regularly in the technique for at least two years") and Stronger than 50% of male lifters according this site
    Strength and strength training is specific to movements, hence why she would probably get mogged by most men. It is also why GPP programs are bullchit. When it comes to benching 30kg, she is probably better than most men who don’t lift AT BENCHING 30kg. It doesn’t make her stronger overall.

    Edit: we don’t take that strength level website serious here....
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    I've seen tons of 200lbs+ males that can't even barbell bench 95lbs for one rep, because they've never trained.

    The average males may be 197lbs but that's only because the vast majority of them are obese in North America, especially the southern US.


    One of the biggest reasons Americans are so overweight is men telling other men that being under 200lbs makes you a twink, which is the most ridiculous thing you could say when most should be between 140-160lbs, whales.
    Meanwhile the average woman is now 173lbs when they should be 120lbs at 5'4, whales.

    A woman that weight trains will inherently be stronger than just about any lean man that doesn't.
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    in bench? a 180 lbs beginner male can DB bench 41 pounds for one rep and a novice 64 pounds accordind the bench press standard https://strengthlevel.com/strength-s...bench-press/lb
    she is insert in the intermediate lifters men ("An intermediate lifter has trained regularly in the technique for at least two years") and Stronger than 50% of male lifters according this site
    lol, so you post a site where anybody can post any BS weight.

    you're trying to correlate how much somebody DB benches with whether if they would win in a fight. The two don't really have much to do with each other. A 180 lb beginner male has more testosterone, probably still has more muscle, denser/thicker bones and it's more mass a woman will have to try and move. DB Benching has nothing to do with how hard you throw a punch. And the average male is going to hit a lot harder even more than your above-average female who lifts. If she is trained to fight then yeah sure maybe it's a different story, depending on how well trained she is.

    Strength is movement specific. It doesn't necessarily translate into the ability to throw a punch, to shove, grapple at all. Not to mention the "power" aspect of it which is basically how quickly you can display strength which is an entirely different beast.



    Mountain, arguably the strongest guy in the world doesn't have a chance versus in arm wrestling versus somebody who is 200 lbs lighter than him. Shows you how strength is a lot about skill and technique.
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    lol, so you post a site where anybody can post any BS weight.

    you're trying to correlate how much somebody DB benches with whether if they would win in a fight. The two don't really have much to do with each other. A 180 lb beginner male has more testosterone, probably still has more muscle, denser/thicker bones and it's more mass a woman will have to try and move. DB Benching has nothing to do with how hard you throw a punch. And the average male is going to hit a lot harder even more than your above-average female who lifts. If she is trained to fight then yeah sure maybe it's a different story, depending on how well trained she is.

    Strength is movement specific. It doesn't necessarily translate into the ability to throw a punch, to shove, grapple at all. Not to mention the "power" aspect of it which is basically how quickly you can display strength which is an entirely different beast.



    Mountain, arguably the strongest guy in the world doesn't have a chance versus in arm wrestling versus somebody who is 200 lbs lighter than him. Shows you how strength is a lot about skill and technique.
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    "The average male" is weak as fuk and she is drastically stronger than them...

    If she has any experience dodging live punches and wrestling should would also mog "most men" in a fight. However, most men can't fight either...
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    if you cant bench 30 kg dumb bells, then you are barely a prepubescent male.
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    if you cant bench 30 kg dumb bells, then you are barely a prepubescent male.
    I can imagine bodybuilding.com updating this forum before I can imagine a grown adult male who can’t bench 40lb dumbbells
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    so 70lbs dumbbells on each hand or 35s each hand? also i swear ive seen this thread atleast twice before
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    Originally Posted by TonyTriangles View Post
    if you cant bench 30 kg dumb bells, then you are barely a prepubescent male.
    65's aren't a joke for most people particularly with full ROM.

    Typically takes a decent program before people go beyond that. (Of course once they do they don't seem to get hung up again before 100s.)
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    Originally Posted by blissful88 View Post
    I've seen tons of 200lbs+ males that can't even barbell bench 95lbs for one rep, because they've never trained.

    The average males may be 197lbs but that's only because the vast majority of them are obese in North America, especially the southern US.


    One of the biggest reasons Americans are so overweight is men telling other men that being under 200lbs makes you a twink, which is the most ridiculous thing you could say when most should be between 140-160lbs, whales.
    Meanwhile the average woman is now 173lbs when they should be 120lbs at 5'4, whales.

    A woman that weight trains will inherently be stronger than just about any lean man that doesn't.
    Would an woman that trains in OP girl level be stronger than a untrainted 190 pounds guy?
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    If you're including the elderly and disabled then it probably would be stronger than the average. If you're only counting healthy males of a similar age to this female (which would be a much more sensible comparison) then I don't think so tbh
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    Originally Posted by beansieweansie View Post
    so 70lbs dumbbells on each hand or 35s each hand? also i swear ive seen this thread atleast twice before
    This thread has been made by the OP so many times I've lost count...
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