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    Arrow BCAAs Boost Immunity...

    BCAAs and yes... Proteins and EAA's have been shown to boost immunity. With this being said, even if you're taking in moderate to high amounts of protein this may be a good time to invest in some free form BCAAs along with some vitamin C, D and Zinc.



    We love pushing iron and we refuse to stop, so and keeping our immune systems in tip-top shape is a priority, especially with whats going on

    Post surgical or septic patients given BCAA intravenously showed improved immunity and this may relate to improved outcome. BCAAs are therefore absolutely essential for lymphocyte responsiveness and are necessary to support other immune cell functions.

    Intense, high volume training repeated over days and weeks can lead to fatigue, immune suppression, and overtraining if an athlete does not recover adequately between training bouts. Chronic (long term) supplementation with 12 g BCAA daily has been shown to improve the immune response to several weeks of intense endurance training in cyclists (Kephart et al., 2016). But how? Researchers have found that BCAAs can also be used by immune cells within the gut as a fuel source, which allows the immune system to regenerate itself more efficiently and protect against harmful pathogens (Zhang et al, 2017). A strong immune system aids in recovery and makes you less likely to get sick.

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    Intense long-duration exercise could lead to immune suppression through a decrease in the circulating level of plasma glutamine. The decrease in plasma glutamine concentration as a consequence of intense long-duration exercise was reversed, in some cases, by supplementing the diet of the athletes with branched-chain amino acids (BCAA). To better address this question, we have evaluated some blood parameters (lymphocyte proliferation, the level of plasma cytokines, plasma glutamine concentration, and in vitro production of cytokines by peripheral blood lymphocytes) before and after the São Paulo International Triathlon, as well as the incidence of symptoms of infections between the groups.

    METHODS:
    Twelve elite male triathletes of mean age 25.5 +/- 3.2 yr (ranging from 21.4 to 30.1 yr), weighing 74.16 +/- 3.9 kg, swam 1.5 km, cycled 40 km, and ran 10 km (Olympic triathlon) in the São Paulo International Triathlon held in April 1997 and April 1998. In both events, six athletes received BCAA and the others, placebo.

    RESULTS:
    Athletes from the BCAA group (BG) presented the same levels of plasma glutamine, before and after the trial, whereas those from the placebo group showed a reduction of 22.8% in plasma glutamine concentration after the competition. Changes in the proliferative response of peripheral blood lymphocytes were accompanied by a reduction in IL-1 production after exercise (22.2%), which was reversed by BCAA supplementation (20.3%), without changes in IL-2 production.

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    The data obtained show that BCAA supplementation can reverse the reduction in serum glutamine concentration observed after prolonged intense exercise such as an Olympic triathlon. The decrease in plasma glutamine concentration is paralleled by an increased incidence of symptoms of infections that results in augmented proliferative response of lymphocytes cultivated in the absence of mitogens. The prevention of the lowering of plasma glutamine concentration allows an increased response of lymphocytes to ConA and LPS, as well as an increased production of IL-1 and 2, TNF-alpha, and IFN-gamma, possibly linked to the lower incidence of symptoms of infection (33.84%) reported by the supplemented athletes.

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    Christ on a cross trainer, the shill must go on.

    I know you have a job to do but is now really the time to start posting up about anything that isn’t fully proved improving immune systems?

    This is, at best, irresponsible. From a [senior] company rep it’s shameful.

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    Its worth noting that the text in the OP post was from a study 20 years ago.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10912884



    And, some of the information was cherry picked from another article here:

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16365100

    Missing from OP's post is the following quote from the above article:

    "However, many aspects of BCAA and its effects on immune function have been understudied or not studied at all."
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    Originally Posted by faipdeooiad View Post
    Christ on a cross trainer, the shill must go on.

    I know you have a job to do but is now really the time to start posting up about anything that isn’t fully proved improving immune systems?

    This is, at best, irresponsible. From a [senior] company rep it’s shameful.

    If you’ve anything about you, you’ll remove it to stop people putting undue faith in drink flavouring.
    My job does not require me to post on here, I do it because I love BB.com. Take it for what it's worth, more than enough info is present on Amino Acids and Immunity
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    Originally Posted by sloop View Post
    Its worth noting that the text in the OP post was from a study 20 years ago.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10912884



    And, some of the information was cherry picked from another article here:

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16365100

    Missing from OP's post is the following quote from the above article:
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    Lol, you can't boost your immune system, you can help support it via lifestyle factors but what you're born with is pretty much it. And you don't want too powerful of an immune system or it will over-react and you'll end up in hospital or worse. Best thing you can do is stress management, plenty of sleep and have a healthy diet
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    Good read,

    A. Staying healthy long-term is a key component to staying fit. If you are sick it is very difficult to exercise, much less recover from exercise, so learning simple strategies to keep your immune system humming along can make a vast difference.


    When it comes to immune boosting benefits BCAAs have a lot of data on that front. While glutamine has gotten a lot of pub for its effect on the immune system, it seems that BCAAs may be more effective as they spare and protect the body’s glutamine stores.


    Since the body utilizes glutamine stores as cellular energy for the immune system, it is important to keep them topped off. It has been shown that intense exercise whether for athletic performance, muscle hypertrophy, fat loss or general health and fitness can deplete glutamine levels in the body up to 50%, and therefore significantly suppress the immune system. Fortunately as noted, BCAAs can help to maintain glutamine levels and proper immune function.


    Recent research showed that after an Olympic distance triathlon, athletes supplemented with BCAAs maintained their blood glutamine levels before and after the triathlon, while the placebo group had a 23% reduction in blood glutamine. The supplemental BCAA group also had a 34% decreased risk of infection after completion of the triathlon compared to the placebo group.


    Besides the maintenance of glutamine stores, other research has shown that even with glutamine at optimal concentrations, there is still an absolute requirement for BCAAs in the immune system. Immune cells intake BCAAs into their protein structures, and they also oxidize BCAAs as fuel. The immune system seems to use BCAAs mainly for protein synthesis, of which it has a very high dependence since mounting a response requires the creation of new cells, immunoglobulins, cytokines, and more.


    If BCAAs are not sufficient then proper synthesis of these immune system materials is impaired and the immune response is markedly decreased.


    Conclusion:

    Clearly BCAA supplementation has a considerable effect on the immune system through maintenance of glutamine stores, providing raw material to immune cells and improving recovery from intense exercise. Considering it has been shown that a mere 6 grams of BCAAs per day has been found to boost the immune system, it seems incredibly important and easy to ensure adequate intake.


    If you exercise hard, whether an endurance athlete, recreation weight lifter or a weekend warrior, it seems clear that simple BCAA supplementation will help keep you fit and healthy and keep your immune fully functional.
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    Lol, you can't boost your immune system, you can help support it via lifestyle factors but what you're born with is pretty much it. And you don't want too powerful of an immune system or it will over-react and you'll end up in hospital or worse. Best thing you can do is stress management, plenty of sleep and have a healthy diet
    First you said you can't boost your immune system, and then you say you said you don't want too powerful of one either
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    First you said you can't boost your immune system, and then you say you said you don't want too powerful of one either

    Correct. Some people are born with a good immune system, some are born with a bad one. And yes, many have died because they,'re immune system reacted too strongly. Where you want to be is somewhere in the middle
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    Thank you OP for being normal in this troubling time, never change
    I just want you guys safe and able to read these threads for years to come. Seriously, stay strong during this media attack
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    Amino Acids Strengthen the Immune System. Compliments of A-A.org

    Vitamin C and zinc are the most recognized natural supporters of a healthy immune system. The importance of amino acids in immune health was not understood until the last twenty years or so. This explains why knowledge regarding the immune functions of amino acids is still not very prevalent.

    L-glutamine
    Strengthening the immune systemL-glutamine is a building block of glutathione and functions as an immunoregulator as well as an antioxidant. Glutamine is a key energy supplier to the cells of the immune system undergoing rapid mitosis (cell division).

    Taking glutamine has also been found to improve the functioning of intestinal mucosa 1 and thereby contributes to the stabilization of the immune system 2. Glutamine deficiency increases susceptibility to infections 3.

    Glutamine is well tolerated and can also be taken in higher doses of several grams per day. People with epilepsy should take higher doses only after consultation with their physician.

    L-arginine
    L-arginine is an element of white blood cells and can significantly contribute to the effectiveness of the body’s defense against viruses. A study conducted as early as 1991 shows the positive effects of L-arginine on white blood cells 4.

    Because L-arginine also stimulates collagen synthesis, supplementation with the amino acid can lead to improved wound healing.

    L-cysteine
    L-cysteine can contribute to the elimination of heavy metals. It functions as an immunoregulator and, together with glutathione, forms one of the most powerful antioxidants. Individuals with a compromised immune system often evidence low levels of L-cysteine.

    In the form of N-acetyl-cysteine (NAC) and dosages starting at approx. 400 mg – 600 mg per day, cysteine is a medication you can get without a prescription to facilitate active transport across mucosa. Dosages of 100 mg per day and up in the form of cysteine are effective as a nutritional supplement. To improve glutathione synthesis, cysteine should be taken together with vitamin C.

    Cysteine is also an important building block of keratin in hair. In addition to diminished immune defenses, a deficiency in cysteine can also lead to hair loss.

    Lysine
    Lysine has antiviral properties and is recommended as an inhibitor of herpes viruses and shingles (herpes zoster) 5. Lysine’s immune-stimulating and virus-inhibiting functions in herpes cases have been documented in several studies 6.

    Taking lysine in combination with L-arginine is recommended. Lysine is well tolerated and doses of up to 3 grams per day are considered safe for healthy adults.

    L-carnitine
    L-carnitine is known for its functions in fatty acid transport. However, L-carnitine also plays a major role in the immune system.

    Individuals with weakened immune systems often evidence low levels of L-carnitine 7. An American study shows that giving these individuals supplementation with L-carnitine improves immune defense on several levels 8.

    L-carnitine also helps protect cells from oxidative stress and contributes to the protection of nerve cells.

    Vitamins and Minerals that Strengthen the Immune System
    Almost all vitamins are involved in maintaining immune defenses on some level. Any type of vitamin deficiency thus goes hand in hand with a weakened immune system.

    Vitamin C
    Immune System and Vitamin CVitamin C (ascorbic acid) is the most well-known and researched supplement. It is safe to take vitamin C in doses of up to several grams per day.

    With higher dosages, the amount of vitamin C that the body can actually use decreases and the amount that is eliminated increases. Nonetheless, it is widely accepted that Vitamin C in high doses of up to 10 grams per day is not harmful.

    According to European agencies, the recommended daily allowance of Vitamin C for a healthy, young non-smoker is 80 mg. More than 30% of the population do not get this amount through a regular diet 9. This amount is also not enough to restore a compromised immune system 10.

    Moreover, vitamin C is used when taking medications such as aspirin®. Smokers need twice the amount of vitamin C that non-smokers require.

    Vitamin C controls histamine levels in the body. Deficiencies in vitamin C lead to elevated histamine levels in the blood. Histamine is released in allergic or asthmatic conditions and is the cause of allergic symptoms. If you are suffering from allergies or asthma, daily doses of at least 800 mg of vitamin C are recommended.

    Because low levels of vitamin C weaken immune defenses, it is recommended that you take vitamin C together with your medication when fighting the flu.

    Vitamin D
    Supporting the Immune System with Amino AcidsVitamin D is rarely found in food and is synthesized in the skin through UV radiation. To generate vitamin D in the skin, the sun has to be at least 30 degrees high in the sky, and its rays have to reach a UV index of at least 3.

    In central Europe, these conditions are only met from March to September around noon. As a result, 9 out of 10 central Europeans have a vitamin D deficiency. Even in southern Europe, the majority of people cannot synthesize sufficient vitamin D.

    Vitamin D has extensive functions in the immune system and its effects can be remarkable. In a renowned study, the effectiveness of vitamin D as prevention against the flu was compared to the effectiveness of a flu shot. The result: taking vitamin D provided eight times the protection of the flu shot!

    A study conducted in 2007 shows a clear correlation between upper respiratory tract infections / asthma and low blood levels of vitamin D 11.

    B Vitamins
    In addition to immune functions, vitamins of the B complex play an important role in energy metabolism and nerve function. Niacin (B3) slows the release of histamine and is therefore commonly recommended for allergies.

    Lack of energy and fatigue, both signs of an overworked immune system and often caused by deficiency in vitamin D, can be effectively addressed by supplementing with a vitamin B complex (B1, B2, B6, B12, folic acid, niacin, pantothenic acid).

    Of all the B vitamins, vitamin B12 is particularly important as it is directly associated with a normally-functioning immune system.

    Vitamin E
    Vitamin E is a strong, fat soluble antioxidant. It is an anti-inflammatory and helps regulate the immune response. High doses of vitamin E may lower cytokine levels. Approx. 50% of the population do not get the recommended daily allowance of vitamin E.

    Vitamin A
    Vitamin A helps regulate immune function. Supplementation with vitamin A should not exceed 100% of the recommended daily allowance, as the first undesirable side effects may become noticeable starting with dosages of 500% of the recommended daily allowance.

    A better approach is to make carotinoids available to the body. The body can convert these into vitamin A on an as-needed basis. Taking up to 100% of the recommended daily allowance of vitamin A should be sufficient.

    Zinc
    Zinc is of central importance to a healthy immune system and is responsible for regulating the immune response. Studies have shown that taking high doses of zinc in combination with vitamin C can cut the duration of a cold in half 12.

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    Zinc should be taken with supplemental copper, because zinc may have negative effects on copper levels. Additionally, copper supports normal functioning of the immune system.

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    Don't know about its immune boosting priperties, but do enjoy my bcaa with a caffeine cap before doing cardio in the morning.

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    pretty irresponsible post IMO at this time, people might think you are saying that BCAA's will prevent them from contracting a virus, which they clearly will not.
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    Don't know about its immune boosting priperties, but do enjoy my bcaa with a caffeine cap before doing cardio in the morning.

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    pretty irresponsible post IMO at this time, people might think you are saying that BCAA's will prevent them from contracting a virus, which they clearly will not.
    I honestly hope you're not serious? If so, spend sometime in the misc
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    I honestly hope you're not serious? If so, spend sometime in the misc
    srs as fuk, you are conveying a false sense of security to people that may be gullible to believe you over the advice over that of a qualified physician
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    srs as fuk, you are conveying a false sense of security to people that may be gullible to believe you over the advice over that of a qualified physician
    I'm guessing you missed this part> We love pushing iron and we refuse to stop, so and keeping our immune systems in tip-top shape is a priority, especially with whats going on.

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    So I got COVID-19 and cured it with BCAAs. I endorse this thread.

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    ...keeping our immune systems in tip-top shape is a priority, especially with whats going on.
    And WHY mention the part in red if YOU'RE not trying to link the two?
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    There is a high incidence of infections in athletes undergoing intense, prolonged training or participating in endurance races (e.g., the marathon), in particular, upper respiratory tract infections. Prolonged, exhaustive exercise can lower the plasma level of the amino acid, glutamine, which is an important fuel for some cells of the immune system and may have specific immunostimulatory effects. This could therefore be an important factor in the event of an impaired response of immune cells to opportunistic infections. The effects of feeding glutamine to sedentary individuals and to marathon and ultramarathon runners before and after prolonged, exhaustive exercise has been investigated in a series of studies that monitored the incidence of infections and some acute-phase response markers. Oral glutamine, compared with a placebo, appeared to have a beneficial effect on the incidence of infections reported by runners after a marathon.

    Post #9 touches on how BCAAs may help prevent glutamine levels from depleting
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    And WHY mention the part in red if YOU'RE not trying to link the two?
    Did you read what's posted or just the title?
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    I'm guessing you missed this part> We love pushing iron and we refuse to stop, so and keeping our immune systems in tip-top shape is a priority, especially with whats going on.

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    So I got COVID-19 and cured it with BCAAs. I endorse this thread.

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    Why hasn't anyone mentioned vitamin C-D and Zinc?
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    Why hasn't anyone mentioned vitamin C-D and Zinc?
    Spent too much money on All Day You May for our grandparents. My grandad’s currently carrying round one of Rich Piana’s piss jugs full of BCAAs to ward of Coronavirus.

    Gotta confuse the virus, right babe?
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    Spent too much money on All Day You May for our grandparents. My grandad’s currently carrying round one of Rich Piana’s piss jugs full of BCAAs to ward of Coronavirus
    How's the flavor? Or in your part of the world, flavour
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    Why hasn't anyone mentioned vitamin C-D and Zinc?
    D is likely good, avoid C, Zinc is likely good in lower doses.

    Vit C has some suspicion of making it worse, although there is one doc trying massive IV doses and saying it works, but others are claiming it has a mechanism that does not work well with coronavirus.


    Most medical outlets are saying not to supplement anything outside of Vit D. This includes C, BCAAs, elderberry (which potentially makes Covid19 fatal), etc.
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