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    Originally Posted by MBisonSon View Post
    Who's putting guns to people's heads and forcing them to buy?
    nobody's forcing you to have internet, but I'd be damn sure you'd be immensely pissed off if you had to pay double what you do now.

    Hand sanitizers/disinfectants are pretty essential during a viral pandemic, especially to those who have to take public transit and/or cannot work from home.
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    Originally Posted by irollurmom View Post
    nobody's forcing you to have internet, but I'd be damn sure you'd be immensely pissed off if you had to pay double what you do now.

    Hand sanitizers/disinfectants are pretty essential during a viral pandemic, especially to those who have to take public transit and/or cannot work from home.
    OK so if the price of internet was doubled then I'd have to make a choice whether I'd like to keep paying or do away with it.

    Am I missing something here?
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    Originally Posted by MBisonSon View Post
    OK so if the price of internet was doubled then I'd have to make a choice whether I'd like to keep paying or do away with it.

    Am I missing something here?
    Do you think you could go without internet for more than a few days? I highly doubt it. You'd be forced to pay their exorbitant prices.

    This is the equivalent of all other service providers being down with only one running and doubling their charges.
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    Originally Posted by irollurmom View Post
    Do you think you could go without internet for more than a few days? I highly doubt it. You'd be forced to pay their exorbitant prices.

    This is the equivalent of all other service providers being down with only one running and doubling their charges.
    Example in OP is not double... it's seventy times more expensive. Guy deserves all the hate he gets. He can suck it up and reap what he sowed, and he more than doubled his expenditure already.
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    Originally Posted by irollurmom View Post
    Do you think you could go without internet for more than a few days? I highly doubt it. You'd be forced to pay their exorbitant prices.

    This is the equivalent of all other service providers being down with only one running and doubling their charges.
    Yes.

    There are alternatives to having internet at home: Library, Starbucks, McDonald's, etc.

    Also stop comparing the importance of the internet to ****ing hand sanitizer.

    What next?

    Why not swing for the fences and compare hand sanitizer to food or air while you're making ridiculous comparisons?
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    Originally Posted by MBisonSon View Post
    Yes.

    There are alternatives to having internet at home: Library, Starbucks, McDonald's, etc.

    Also stop comparing the importance of the internet to ****ing hand sanitizer.

    What next?

    Why not swing for the fences and compare hand sanitizer to food or air while you're making ridiculous comparisons?
    I don't think anyone is disputing that people were dumb enough to buy his stuff at those prices. Especially considering that hand sanitizers don't even work when people use it as they think it should be used.

    The guy is still scum, and he's trying to play the victim. He can go fist himself.
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    Originally Posted by MBisonSon View Post
    Yes.

    There are alternatives to having internet at home: Library, Starbucks, McDonald's, etc.

    Also stop comparing the importance of the internet to ****ing hand sanitizer.

    What next?

    Why not swing for the fences and compare hand sanitizer to food or air while you're making ridiculous comparisons?
    In this case, hand sanitizer is a lot more important than the internet. And no, you would not go more than a few days without internet.

    Also your point about going to McDonald's or Starbucks is moot, because people trying to buy sanitizer can't really go anywhere else to buy it because shops are out of stock because of the hoarders/price gougers.
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    Originally Posted by MBisonSon View Post
    Yes.

    There are alternatives to having internet at home: Library, Starbucks, McDonald's, etc.
    lol you'd be fuming mad if your IP decided to price gouge you right now. If you can't even admit that...
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    Originally Posted by irollurmom View Post
    In this case, hand sanitizer is a lot more important than the internet. And no, you would not go more than a few days without internet.

    Also your point about going to McDonald's or Starbucks is moot, because people trying to buy sanitizer can't really go anywhere else to buy it because shops are out of stock because of the hoarders/price gougers.
    To MBisonSon's point, hand sanitizer is not a necessity, it's more psychological than anything else.
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    Originally Posted by Anachron View Post
    To MBisonSon's point, hand sanitizer is not a necessity, it's more psychological than anything else.
    It's not a necessity, as food or water would be, or as effective as hand washing, but it's incredibly effective at killing the virus if used in proper amounts. A simple rub of sanitizer could possibly save someone a hospital trip.
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    Originally Posted by ErnieMccracken View Post
    lol you'd be fuming mad if your IP decided to price gouge you right now. If you can't even admit that...
    So hand sanitizer's the only way to clean your hands?
    The billionaire and the beggar both have 24 hours in a day.

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    I see. So it's not okay for Average Joe to do it, but when insurance, banking, and healthcare companies do it, it is.
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    Originally Posted by MBisonSon View Post
    So hand sanitizer's the only way to clean your hands?
    Are you going to run to the washroom every time you want your hands clean? Or would it be a lot easier to use a couple squirts of sanitizer until you can find a washroom to use?
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    Originally Posted by nguyencelll View Post
    I see. So it's not okay for Average Joe to do it, but when insurance, banking, and healthcare companies do it, it is.
    Such a low IQ argument. I would hate to think this is the real wincel, I thought he would be a bit more intellectual than this.
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    Originally Posted by irollurmom View Post
    or retailers can limit supply like they do during their sales, i.e. 4 per person
    once again, you pay with time or pay with money. People who cannot afford the time will still not be able to get any of these products. Your strategy of "limiting purchases" also does not solve the problem of people rushing to the stores, and causing long lineups where the diseases can spread. price increases will do a better job of making people purchasing when they need it, instead of stockpiling.

    who are the people who can't afford time off work? the poorest.
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    I'm really glad to read this. Fukkers should be shut down.
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    Originally Posted by MBisonSon View Post
    So hand sanitizer's the only way to clean your hands?
    Here’s a good one for you....about a year ago, scientists discovered that viruses are covered in a layer of mucus that protects them from ethanol. The study showed that viruses need to be in contact with ethanol for a minimum of 4 minutes before it died. This means hand sanitizer does virtually jack chit as far as virus protection goes. Hand washing still remains the go to for prevention
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    Originally Posted by TurbanMon View Post
    once again, you pay with time or pay with money. People who cannot afford the time will still not be able to get any of these products. Your strategy of "limiting purchases" also does not solve the problem of people rushing to the stores, and causing long lineups where the diseases can spread. price increases will do a better job of making people purchasing when they need it, instead of stockpiling.

    are people who are the worst off better off taking time off work to lineup for products?
    People will stockpile regardless of price, or they'll go to a different store where the prices are lower. I argued with another person about this same thing. Someone will undercut you if you charge a high enough price for a product that consumers don't deem worth said price. The only reason people were buying the price-gouged products was out of panic, not because they actually thought a pack of lysol wipes was worth $70 or whatever he charged.
    Retailers have literal departments and marketing agencies to determine prices. They won't just hike the price of a product because of a temporary demand. The best way to deal with this is by limiting supplies. Whether it's food, water, sanitizer, whatever, people will storm grocery stores during times of panic.
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    Originally Posted by Jasonw1178 View Post
    I'm against people buying up supplies and then selling them at high profits.

    However, for legit retailers who supply it and sell it regular (meanting before the pandemic) I think that price gouging, although not pleasant, prevents shortages.

    Most horders are idiots that don't make that much money. Hard to horde up all the TP when it's $20 a pack instead of $4.
    The chicken egg farmers here (Hickmans) started adding a $2 additional container charge cause of hoarders. They just wanted to slow people down so others could buy the eggs.

    It worked. Within the 2 days of selling out people are coming in and buying two cases and leaving. $2 sucks but is minimal compared to someone buying out entire stocks
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    Originally Posted by nguyencelll View Post
    Why? It's exactly the same thing. You think insulin should be this fuking expensive? LOL.
    Again, such a low IQ argument. Did anyone said that was OK? No, I didn't think so. I'm disappointed...
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    Here’s a good one for you....about a year ago, scientists discovered that viruses are covered in a layer of mucus that protects them from ethanol. The study showed that viruses need to be in contact with ethanol for a minimum of 4 minutes before it died. This means hand sanitizer does virtually jack chit as far as virus protection goes. Hand washing still remains the go to for prevention
    LOL. Do you think ERs are rubbing down equipment with soap and water between patients? They're using alcohol-based cleaning products.
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    Originally Posted by irollurmom View Post
    LOL. Do you think ERs are rubbing down equipment with soap and water between patients? They're using alcohol-based cleaning products.
    Not consumer level hand sanitizers though.
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    Originally Posted by Anachron View Post
    Again, such a low IQ argument. Did anyone said that was OK? No, I didn't think so. I'm disappointed...
    Yes. Half this forum is against people like Bernie Sanders and any kind of regulation or action taken against these monopolies or massive firms that have insane market power. Most here loathe the idea of healthcare reform. They will cheer for such regulations against an individual, but god forbid they are done against companies.
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    Originally Posted by nguyencelll View Post
    Yes. Half this forum is against people like Bernie Sanders and any kind of regulation or action taken against these monopolies or massive firms that have insane market power. Most here loathe the idea of healthcare reform. They will cheer for such regulations against an individual, but god forbid they are done against companies.
    I just looked through the thread and have not found anything of the sort.

    So please, kindly take your drivel elsewhere.
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    Originally Posted by Anachron View Post
    I just looked through the thread and have not found anything of the sort.

    So please, kindly take your drivel elsewhere.
    Yeah. Check post history. I'm sure you're one of those people too. Go read R&P.
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    Originally Posted by Anachron View Post
    Not consumer level hand sanitizers though.
    They use consumer-level hand sanitizers between patients. Those foam sanitizer pumps in public places/doctors offices are just the off-brand version of Purell.

    Also, I wasn't talking about auto-claves or scrub downs after rotations or after a highly-infectious patient. Most doctor's offices are using consumer grade (either bleach or alcohol-based) disinfectants to wipe down stethoscopes, thermometers, etc., beds, between patients.
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    Originally Posted by irollurmom View Post
    LOL. Do you think ERs are rubbing down equipment with soap and water between patients? They're using alcohol-based cleaning products.
    Hospitals have pure medical grade ethanol and chlorohexidine soaps
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    Originally Posted by nguyencelll View Post
    Yeah. Check post history. I'm sure you're one of those people too. Go read R&P.
    Last time I checked, this thread is not in R&P.

    And nice ad hominem attack.
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    Hand sanitizer won't be particularly effective tbh. It's better than nothing I guess.
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    Originally Posted by nguyencelll View Post
    Yes. Half this forum is against people like Bernie Sanders and any kind of regulation or action taken against these monopolies or massive firms that have insane market power. Most here loathe the idea of healthcare reform. They will cheer for such regulations against an individual, but god forbid they are done against companies.
    Most people here have a very low level understanding of macroeconomics. They'll sit on facebook all day calling people libtards and liking photos of trucks, but can't tell you the basic tenets of the fractional reserve banking system.
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