It's funny, I hear people say things like "masks do nothing"...
I always respond with something like: "Ok, try coughing or sneezing 1 foot away from your bathroom mirror WITHOUT a face covering... then try it WITH one... let me know if the mirror looks the same after each".
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Thread: COVID-19, let's put updates here
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11-08-2020, 01:48 PM #211
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"When I die, I hope it's early in the morning so I don't have to go to work that day for no reason"
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11-08-2020, 05:12 PM #212
Yup. I think it'd be a good health PSA to let people know that the masks aren't just about not getting sick, but about getting LESS sick if you do get it. Most people think it's like a cold or flu where if you're sick you're sick and it doesn't matter how many virus particles you were exposed to, when that just simply isn't the case.
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11-09-2020, 04:17 AM #213
Big Vaccine news today!
Pfizer’s Covid-19 Vaccine Proves 90% Effective in Latest Trials
U.S. drugmaker and partner BioNTech could ask FDA to permit wide use of vaccine for the new coronavirus by end of November
A vaccine developed by Pfizer Inc. PFE 0.03% and partner BioNTech SE proved better than expected at protecting people from Covid-19 in a pivotal study, a milestone in the hunt for shots that can stop the global pandemic.
The vaccine proved to be more than 90% effective in the first 94 subjects who were infected by the new coronavirus and developed at least one symptom, the companies said Monday.
The positive, though incomplete, results bring the vaccine a big step closer to getting cleared for widespread use.
Pfizer said it is on track to ask health regulators for permission to sell the shot before the end of this month, if pending data indicate the vaccine is safe.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-1...d=hp_lead_pos1
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11-09-2020, 04:19 AM #214
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11-09-2020, 12:09 PM #215
Human means the human version as opposed to animal. Recombinant essentially means it's a protein we can create in a lab. Soluble means it will go through the bloodstream to reach different places in the body. ACE2 is the protein itself. It could be produced on a large scale relatively quickly if it was proven to be a slam dunk very effective & safe treatment. Practically that would take awhile.
Regarding the vaccine, very encouraging news to be sure. Good write up here: https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipelin...fe39mIn4qL2wnI
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11-10-2020, 08:13 AM #216
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I was glad to read this as well yesterday. One of my big concerns with any vaccine was the ability to mass produce, but it sounds like once approved Pfizer has the capacity to produce 200 million doses in 2020 and another 1.5 billion in 2021.
Is this the vaccine that requires a -70C storage temperature? I feel for the countries who don't have the infrastructure to support this.
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11-10-2020, 05:30 PM #217
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11-10-2020, 05:41 PM #218
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11-11-2020, 04:19 AM #220
Yeah it's an interesting timing to say the least. We can't really know if it was timed or coincidence. But let's say the guys in charge at Pfizer did it on purpose. They thought 'let's delay it a few days because we don't want to boost Trump's chances of winning'. I wouldn't really mind. To me it makes sense that they would rather have a president that believes in science than one that makes up his own science.
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11-11-2020, 06:05 AM #222
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Isn't that backwards? Biden just put out a speech that included reducing the cost of drugs.
Politics aside, there was a good conversation on sky news today with an Indian virologist who was pretty convinced that the Pfizer vaccine won't be our main vaccine soon anyway because of others in heavy testing phases with less stringent cooling requirements.
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11-11-2020, 06:37 AM #223
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11-11-2020, 08:38 AM #224
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Let’s not divert this too much into politics.
I was merely commenting the timing is highly suspicious given the election drama.
Only comment mildly related to that subject I will make is that THIS vaccine effort by Pfizer etc was the only of the several in testing process that did NOT accept money from the “project warp speed” thing.
So it’s interesting how VP Pence and others are claiming its promising results are somehow a result of the current administrations efforts... it is actually the opposite if anything: this vaccine did not in any way benefit from the government-funded programs."When I die, I hope it's early in the morning so I don't have to go to work that day for no reason"
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11-11-2020, 03:19 PM #225
I was thinking the same.
Semi-political rant: I also have to say that I'm so fuking sick of everything from public health initiatives, to sports, to movies, to music, to fuking porn these days is all political. I'm so fuking fed up with politics. I literally cried tears of joy when Biden won, and not even because I'm some sort of hardcore Democrat or anything, but because I'm so sick of living in such a divided nation where every damn thing comes down to an "us vs them" political and ideological circle-jerk...even a goddamned virus. Imo the man was just too damn polarizing. For every outlandish thing Trump did, the news media's constant childish tattletaling was just as weak and pathetic. Our reaction to him was chittier than the a$$holerry he helped encourage, and in many cases, equally favoring of ideology over facts. /Endrant.
Back to strictly Covid talk, a new study's going around that surveyed Marine recruits and found that the vast majority were asymptomatic. These were young (83% between 18-20), otherwise very healthy men, so I don't view this as too surprising. This perhaps lends weight to the idea that young people are spreading this thing around without realizing it.
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11-11-2020, 05:38 PM #226
Here's an interesting CNN piece on why people are more likely to survive Covid now compared to the spring:https://www.cnn.com/videos/health/20...newday-vpx.cnn.
Cliffs: The main demographic with the disease is younger now and more disease-specific treatments like steroids, remdesivir, antibodies, blood thinners, and turning patients on their side have greatly reduced the mortality rate of the hospitalized. Also, they seem a bit hesitant to admit it, but they admit that the previous strategy of putting everyone on ventilators was possibly killing more people than it was saving. I remember scoffing at this as a nutjob conspiracy at first, but everything I've read over the last several months has suggested the ventilators truly do hurt more than they help in most cases.
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11-12-2020, 09:25 AM #227
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The very things that SOME people admire in Trump (his candor, his 'thinking out loud', his ostensibly 'macho' projections/facade...) are perhaps the most dangerous things about him as a President.
He didn't offer calm, compassion, etc, and a leader in a country so divided THAT is what you need.
Instead, he insights anger, fear, conspiracy, and doubt across the board... against science and against his political rivals.
People these days are too easily lead by headlines, Tweets, and non-sense news accusations to have someone like that in the White House. Staying up and tweeting/retweeting the kinds of things he does without a second thought to how his base will react to it is incredibly irresponsible.
We at LEAST need someone who communicates like an adult... so while, like you, I'm not a Biden 'fan' per se, he at least talks like an adult and we don't need to worry about being the laughing stock of the world anymore."When I die, I hope it's early in the morning so I don't have to go to work that day for no reason"
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11-21-2020, 03:52 AM #228
More correlational evidence suggesting that vitamin D levels may be quite important for outcomes: https://www.nature.com/articles/s415...inJxOzdARIGzHA
I think it's reasonable for every generally healthy person to supplement 2,000-4,000 IUs of vitamin D during this pandemic.My 100% free website: healthierwithscience.com
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12-21-2020, 05:13 PM #229
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Not real 'news', but my dad (ER doc) received his first COVID vaccine 2 days ago.
As of now, spoke to him and he says he has zero side-effects thus far. I guess he's getting another one in a couple weeks.
Didn't realize it was already out there."When I die, I hope it's early in the morning so I don't have to go to work that day for no reason"
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12-21-2020, 07:17 PM #230
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12-21-2020, 08:33 PM #231
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12-22-2020, 10:25 AM #232
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020...emains-unclear
Wonder how this will affect the overall effectiveness of the vaccine (and what the properties of this mutation is in terms of the probability of severe disease, if the risk factors are the same, etc.)
I guess if the effect on the reproduction number is an increase in about 0.4 as some sources claim, this will also push the threshold for herd immunity higher, so that the vaccination rate in the population needs to be higher to get the same overall protection...
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12-22-2020, 10:58 AM #233
I think/hope the initial reaction to the new strain was a bit exaggerated. They're already talking about lifting the travel ban.
Infection numbers in The Netherlands have been going down the last 4 days so that could be a good sign. Not sure how prevalent the new strain is here. Today they found two people with it.
Update: travel bans have been lifted now.Last edited by Mrpb; 12-22-2020 at 11:22 PM.
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01-28-2021, 02:07 PM #234
Well I've certainly done a poor job keeping this updated. Here's one update:
The CDC collated data indicating the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines are safe with post-vaccine surveillance. CDC presentation: https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/acip/me...1h7SgarAUhCzcA and a general news articlehttps://www.yahoo.com/news/first-22m-americans-vaccinated-covid-103009410.html
A lot of people are having significant reactions after the second dose. It would not be a bad idea to try to plan the second dose such that you do not need to work the next day.My 100% free website: healthierwithscience.com
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01-28-2021, 05:07 PM #235
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02-15-2021, 07:48 PM #237
So I got my first shot of the Moderna vaccine like 4 hours ago & I feel unreal levels fatigue & body aches like I have one of the worst hangovers ever I was planning on lifting but that's absolutely out of the question at this point. Can anyone else relate? I was pretty run down & tired before I got vaccinated, but I'm shocked I feel this terrible already. Meanwhile, Ik a 90 year-old Chinese dude that coaches me at a gym I train at and he felt totally fine after his first dose and didn't even notice.
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02-16-2021, 01:32 AM #238
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02-16-2021, 04:58 PM #239
Actually, it lasted no where near 24 hours. I got up a few times in the night to go to the bathroom and my muscles ached with every damn step, but when I woke up this morning it was completely gone. I even did a workout this afternoon and felt great. My gf said she had the exact same experience. She felt extremely wiped out about 4 hours after her shot the first time & it was gone by the next day. Matter-of-fact, she just got her second dose this afternoon and is already feeling the effects. I think perhaps this has to do with being younger. We're both the same age (26), & I've read that younger people actually experience more systemic side effects than older people. Everyone we've talked to about it said they didn't feel anything systemic after the first shot & didn't feel the second shot until the next day when they were totally wiped out. All of these people are older than us.
Perhaps, in younger populations, the shot has a more immediate though shorter lived effect on the whole body system? I'm sure me and my gf are on the younger end of people who've had access to the shot so far.Last edited by Strawng; 02-16-2021 at 05:11 PM.
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02-16-2021, 05:34 PM #240
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