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03-13-2020, 10:25 AM #1
I don't remember H1N1 having this kind of reaction when Obama was in office
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03-13-2020, 10:30 AM #2
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03-13-2020, 11:04 AM #9
The US has not had many cases yet, but those figures are the best estimate for fatality rate we have so far. Much higher than H1N1, which was very very mild.
But I'm sure, it's just a big global conspiracy to disparage daddy?
Fatality rates in public health are not based on "mathematical proofs" whatever that is even supposed to mean here.
You take the number of deaths, and divide it by your best possible estimate of the total number of cases. Same way that we do CFR for influenza, H1N1, and any other illness or disease.
The country with by far the best data on COVID-19 is South Korea where they've done hundreds of thousands of tests. The numbers are in that range.Misc Crypto Crew
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03-13-2020, 11:05 AM #10
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03-13-2020, 11:05 AM #11
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Its all bullchit. Theyre liberals so theyre using this crisis to try and play it up to seem much worse than it actually is.
Im fuking sick of liberals god damn, god forbid they put the politics aside for 1 fuking second and just help a situation and help their fellow countrymen.
NOPE! Gotta exploit this chit show for maximum political points! Its the liberal way. Disgusting people srs
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03-13-2020, 11:06 AM #12
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03-13-2020, 11:06 AM #13
Imagine the outrage from the leftists if Trump had these numbers for this crisis. Obama averaged 2000 deaths a month during H1N1.
CDC Estimates of 2009 H1N1 Influenza Cases, Hospitalizations and Deaths in the United States
During the pandemic, CDC provided estimates of the numbers of 2009 H1N1 cases, hospitalizations and deaths on seven different occasions. Final estimates were published in 2011. These final estimates were that from April 12, 2009 to April 10, 2010 approximately 60.8 million cases (range: 43.3-89.3 million), 274,304 hospitalizations (195,086-402,719), and 12,469 deaths (8868-18,306) occurred in the United States due to pH1N1. These final estimates are available at: Estimating the burden of 2009 pandemic influenza A (H1N1) in the United States (April 2009-April 2010)External Web Site Icon, Shrestha SS, et al., Clin Infect Dis. 2011 Jan 1;52 Suppl 1:S75-82.
Below are links to the different estimates published, including the final estimates.
April – October 17, 2009 Estimates
April – November 14, 2009 Estimates
April – December 12, 2009 Estimates
April 2009 – January 16, 2010 Estimates
April 2009 – February 13, 2010 Estimates
April 2009 – March 13, 2010 Estimates
Final Estimates Published in May 2011External Web Site Icon________
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03-13-2020, 11:10 AM #14
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03-13-2020, 11:10 AM #15
Dip, Dodge, Duck on the question posed to you.
You can’t prove your numbers, you don’t have ****. So tell me how you’re going to get an accurate denominator when you don’t have an accurate account of the total population that has/had the virus.
You don’t know how many people have been/are asymptomatic. Nor do you know how many people who have/had the virus but have mild symptoms that they don’t even bother to go the doctor. Those people are EXCLUDED from your “best estimate”.
So tell me how you can have an accurate denominator when you’re excluding people from being included.
Get out of here with your “best estimate”.
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03-13-2020, 11:12 AM #16
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03-13-2020, 11:20 AM #18
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03-13-2020, 11:22 AM #19
That's true for literally any infectious disease, especially those that don't always need hospitalisation. It's the same methodology we use to estimate CFR for the seasonal flu, or H1N1, SARS/MERS or anything. How do we know exactly how many influenza cases there are a year? Where's the "mathematical proof?"
When you compare two similar infectious diseases like this, CFR estimates are a valid way of determining which is more severe. Unless you are telling us that the whole concept of CFR is fake news or something.Misc Crypto Crew
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03-13-2020, 11:23 AM #20
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03-13-2020, 11:33 AM #26
Yeah let’s see it. Every equation has a model or a proof. Let’s see it. You still haven’t posted one, because let’s be real, you have done no research on your own and instead just want to parrot numbers as a talking point. So let’s see your proof.
Wait wait wait, are we really comparing similar infections? Swine flu is a type of FLU! Corona is a SARS variant, belonging to a type of cold virus classified as a Corona type! FLU is not the same as SARS. So tell me more about your apples to oranges comparison and “best estimates”.
Ffs lots of Stans on a subsection of a miscellaneous bodybuilding forum that run around parroting numbers but never take the time to think critically about what they’re parroting.
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03-13-2020, 11:33 AM #27
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