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    Looks like Fury cheated and has been cheating a long time. Disappointing.

    I guess that is just the way of the gypsy. They have to be shady in any way possible. This kinda reflects bad not just on him but on the whole culture of boxing out there and elsewhere.

    Loosens the glove so he can go in and out of the finger areas at will. Its against the rules and the referee has made him redo his glove before.



    Cant respect cheaters like that. His reputation is tainted badly now and is a proven not only dirty fighter but dirty cheater.
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    I don't buy it. Even if, MMA gloves have 1/3 of the padding and people still take it.
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    umm doesnt deontays team get to inspect his gloves before the fight?
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    Yeah cheated by taking the fight to the biggest puncher around and beating the snot out of him.

    The better man won, and it doesn't matter how many excuses Wilder and his bitter fanboys make, that's just the way it is.
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    Um, what is the benefit of this? Harder punches? And stills from the fight during a punch showing the glove wasn't set? There were hundreds of cameras there taking millions of photos - not to mention the video footage. Any evidence from the Wilder fight at all?
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    Yes, one video proves without a doubt that he's a cheater and should be looked down upon. Especially coming from you in the actual fight thread defending Wilder tooth and nail. Conspiracy theories are fun.
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    Originally Posted by VegasLifter26 View Post
    umm doesnt deontays team get to inspect his gloves before the fight?
    The purported scheme is saying he passes all the checkpoints (maybe finding a way to pass by having it on the loose side or a sloppy fit or sizing) and at some point in the fight or even between rounds, he gets only his jab hand loose enough so it becomes this versatile extra rangle loose glove that he can benefit from in a few subtle ways including more range and the ability to have a blunt area for hooks.

    Maybe for a normal sized guy it wouldn't be a huge advantage but for the way Fury does all kind of weird stuff (and at that titanic weight you generate more baseline power mechanically so it doesnt take much to do damage) he makes it work for both barrel hooks and the clinch chaos.

    At any point he can reach with the tips of his fingers back into the finger pockets and close the glove to make it look the same as the other one.

    thats why one of the main pieces of evidence was when he was knocked out his left hand wasnt closing the glove like it would if it was all the way in like the other hand.

    Its very minor but it is legit a little thing that is against the rules that he got away with. Other fighters I guess have done it but its technically not allowed.

    Of course the bulbus eyed ref didnt spot it or look for it. the ref you get for the fight when you want to cheat the system.
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    Still coping that your boy lost I see. You were on here for months talking about how Deontay was gonna murder Fury. Just come to terms with he got his ass whooped. All the pros who have heard of this "conspiracy theory" have said it's nonsense and irrelevant. Many have even tried this so called "tactic" and said it's a disadvantage.
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    Originally Posted by Unstumpable View Post
    Still coping that your boy lost I see. You were on here for months talking about how Deontay was gonna murder Fury. Just come to terms with he got his ass whooped. All the pros who have heard of this "conspiracy theory" have said it's nonsense and irrelevant. Many have even tried this so called "tactic" and said it's a disadvantage.
    Its not cope. Its just coincidence that I happened to root for the other guy but that doesnt mean this didnt happen lol. You can easily see his fingers where his wrist should be. Theres no debate here.

    yeah its funny timing after the whole costume excuse but its still its own real separate controversy now.

    And the people who tested it and said its a disadvantage didnt have time to play with the scheme and figure a good fit for the gimmick, they didnt have the gypsy mindset of a hustler or know how to make use of it.

    Nor were they built like the white Shaq.

    You realize how little it takes for these huge 7 footers to generate power just on mechanics of their size alone? lol strong science and comparison between giants and a few randos at may weathers gym who just had a glove handed to them with no preparation and planning of ill will, that gypsy style machavelian bend the rules mentality is key..
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    Originally Posted by KingSWRV View Post
    Its not cope. Its just coincidence that I happened to root for the other guy but that doesnt mean this didnt happen lol. You can easily see his fingers where his wrist should be. Theres no debate here.

    yeah its funny timing after the whole costume excuse but its still its own real separate controversy now.
    He dropped him with the padding from a straight right hand. Not the left.
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    Originally Posted by KingSWRV View Post
    Its not cope. Its just coincidence that I happened to root for the other guy but that doesnt mean this didnt happen lol. You can easily see his fingers where his wrist should be. Theres no debate here.

    yeah its funny timing after the whole costume excuse but its still its own real separate controversy now.
    Can't see anything clearly. He could very well have just been slapping the piss out of him. They will check the gloves better I'm sure in the rematch just to silence this nonsense, but it had no effect on the fight. Seems like a good way to hurt your hand.
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    Originally Posted by MilkforBrains View Post
    He dropped him with the padding from a straight right hand. Not the left.
    what does that have to do with anything?

    People are claiming hes been using this gimmick for multiple fights over the course of his career.
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    Guys I heard Fury smuggled a pair of live leopards into the ring in his gloves, if you zoom in you can clearly see part of a leopard's tail poking out of his glove.

    No wonder Wilder was bleeding so badly, imagine getting mauled by a leopard in the ring. That's why Fury kept clinching, so he could pull his leopards out to attack Wilder out of the ref's line of sight, then tuck them away again.

    So sad about this despicable cheating
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    Originally Posted by KingSWRV View Post
    what does that have to do with anything?

    People are claiming hes been using this gimmick for multiple fights over the course of his career.
    It means the punch he dropped Wilder with wasn't bare-knuckle. It's wasn't floppy.
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    Originally Posted by MilkforBrains View Post
    It means the punch he dropped Wilder with wasn't bare-knuckle. It's wasn't floppy.
    I still dont get what that has to do with the topic?

    We are saying one glove is loose and one glove is normal.
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    Originally Posted by KingSWRV View Post
    I still dont get what that has to do with the topic?

    We are saying one glove is loose and one glove is normal.
    The topic is how he pulled his hand out the glove to hit bareknucke at the wrist of the glove, yet the biggest shot of the fight was a straight right hand on the knuckle padding. What benefit would pulling his hand out give him in this exchange?
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    Didn’t wilder say he wasn’t hurt anyway lol?
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    Originally Posted by MilkforBrains View Post
    The topic is how he pulled his hand out the glove to hit bareknucke at the wrist of the glove, yet the biggest shot of the fight was a straight right hand on the knuckle padding. What benefit would pulling his hand out give him in this exchange?
    are you really that slow in the head? seriously?
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    lol just lol. If you scroll the comments on that video you'll see Chris from Pump Chasers posted. Feckin lol.
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    it's funny because he's actually failed tests before after he won the titles the first time, and the speculation is that's why he went off on his bender that he claims was from "mental health" issues. Basically he got popped then didn't show up to any of the hearings

    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/20...-appear-boxing

    weird how there's virtually no coverage of it in boxing media. That's just business as usual in boxing though where you only get a 6 month suspension and top end fighters only fight twice a year max so it's pretty much a joke. Just look at Big Baby Miller.
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    Why is it cheating or rather, what advantage is gained by tucking your thumb in?
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    Originally Posted by JoshLV View Post
    Stopped watching once the idiot starts talking about racist fans and cops walking into black peoples houses and shooting them 13 times while they’re playing video games....
    yeah pretty much, he starts talking about how its not a white vs black thing but then goes on to talk about some weird one-time scenario that maybe happened as if the chit happens everyday.

    comments there are pretty telling, I don't know much about boxing to say whether it is or isn't cheating so I'm not going to comment on that part
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    Originally Posted by Manc33 View Post
    Why is it cheating or rather, what advantage is gained by tucking your thumb in?
    it definitely looks suspect. look at the photos where he is punching on camera where his fist is at the area of the wrist in the glove, and glove is bent 90 degrees not even making contact in the punch, he isn't using the glove on his left hand.

    as for the advantage gained, he is literally landing with his fist and not the glove, so a lot more damage potential. but it also added 3 or 4 inches to his jab. so he was constantly putting Wilder on the defensive mindset because of the extra reach. if this was planned, it was more strategic to keep Wilder worried about the jab, and because of the extra reach, Wilder's own counter jab would always come up short.

    and a ref caught it in a previous fight years ago in that video above. he shakes his head as well knowing Tyson was trying to cheat back then. and the body language of Tyson he knows he got caught. and it delayed that fight

    i like Tyson as a boxer but there is no way this is all innocent. he was a drug addict, admitted bipolar, was an alcoholic, but lol if people think he wouldn't cheat in someway
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    Fury whipped his arse brahs. Plain and simple. Wilder wasn't ready, he thought he's get an opening to throw a bomb. Fury even though he is tall and goofy has great technical boxing skills. He's danced with the best of them at this point.

    If Wilder trains right for the rematch he might be able to get the win. If not I'll really be excited for the Fury Joshua match up.
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