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    Originally Posted by JMath View Post
    u wot m8?

    Wilder has blamed his outfit, his corner, the refs, and I'm sure others.... you HONESTLY believe that if Fury was doing this, he wouldn't have said something?! He already complained about how he was cheating by hitting him in the clinch and the ref allowed it. So you're telling me that he would just stay silent about this? Come on man. I get it, you're a Wilder fan and you're either furious about Fury beating him, or you're just simultaneously a Fury hater.

    If enough people talk about this by the time the rematch starts, watch... Wilder will add this conspiracy theory to his laundry list of excuses.

    Or he lost a pile of money on a bet.
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    Originally Posted by JMath View Post
    u wot m8?

    Wilder has blamed his outfit, his corner, the refs, and I'm sure others.... you HONESTLY believe that if Fury was doing this, he wouldn't have said something?! He already complained about how he was cheating by hitting him in the clinch and the ref allowed it. So you're telling me that he would just stay silent about this? Come on man. I get it, you're a Wilder fan and you're either furious about Fury beating him, or you're just simultaneously a Fury hater.

    If enough people talk about this by the time the rematch starts, watch... Wilder will add this conspiracy theory to his laundry list of excuses.
    I get what youre saying but you kinda floating all that stuff together. blaming your own people and the ref for cheating is different than pointing to the other guy and saying he cheated. you have to have serious evidence for that.

    The thing is it still doesnt disprove the cheating. Nothing can actually, all the evidence is beyond clear as day.

    Furthermore; Wilder still might say something between now and the fight. Things are boiling over with this and maybe hes gonna see where it goes before he comes out and says something.

    He might be suspended for 8 years over the UKADA case being reopened and investigations have reopened on the issue. Fury is in serious trouble.

    We dont even know if the 3rd fight will still happen so its an odd time right now.

    Outfit: like I said it seems silly but to him its HIS truth lol.
    Corner; the guy couldn't read the situation, the round before he was actually worse than the round they stopped it in, he was recovering slowly and blocking and wasnt bleeding nor passed on in any way. he was still throwing punches. The last punch in the fight was a shot that landed by wilder lol.
    Refs: YOU GONNA DEFEND THAT BEADY EYED MOTHERFUKER THE MOST CORRUPT REF IN BOXING HISTORY. Like I said the ref you lobby for when you want to cheat.

    You dont know if Wilder still might say something when he thinks the timing or motive is right. And its definitely not something you can point to to say its evidence Fury didnt cheat.
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    Originally Posted by KingSWRV View Post
    I get what youre saying but you kinda floating all that stuff together. blaming your own people and the ref for cheating is different than pointing to the other guy and saying he cheated. you have to have serious evidence for that.

    The thing is it still doesnt disprove the cheating. Nothing can actually, all the evidence is beyond clear as day.

    Furthermore; Wilder still might say something between now and the fight. Things are boiling over with this and maybe hes gonna see where it goes before he comes out and says something.

    He might be suspended for 8 years over the UKADA case being reopened and investigations have reopened on the issue. Fury is in serious trouble.

    We dont even know if the 3rd fight will still happen so its an odd time right now.

    Outfit: like I said it seems silly but to him its HIS truth lol.
    Corner; the guy couldn't read the situation, the round before he was actually worse than the round they stopped it in, he was recovering slowly and blocking and wasnt bleeding nor passed on in any way. he was still throwing punches. The last punch in the fight was a shot that landed by wilder lol.
    Refs: YOU GONNA DEFEND THAT BEADY EYED MOTHERFUKER THE MOST CORRUPT REF IN BOXING HISTORY. Like I said the ref you lobby for when you want to cheat.

    You dont know if Wilder still might say something when he thinks the timing or motive is right. And its definitely not something you can point to to say its evidence Fury didnt cheat.
    I EXPECT Wilder to say something. He made other excuses, so I fully expect that he will come out now that a third party is saying there's evidence of this, and say that Fury was cheating. He's proven himself to be an excuse maker, so yes... he will probably latch onto this one too. Although evidently there is not evidence of it happening in this fight? Just that he might have in the past...
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    Originally Posted by JMath View Post
    I EXPECT Wilder to say something. He made other excuses, so I fully expect that he will come out now that a third party is saying there's evidence of this, and say that Fury was cheating. He's proven himself to be an excuse maker, so yes... he will probably latch onto this one too. Although evidently there is not evidence of it happening in this fight? Just that he might have in the past...
    Youre projecting right now.

    thats a very binary take on his personality. He is a true warrior in spirit. He obviously wasnt his best self out there that night in one way or another.

    IF you try to act like its all bs then you are just being intellectually dishonest imo.

    I read between he lines of what you are implying here and its not fair to Wilder.
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    I watched a handful of those glovegate videos and none of them are enough evidence to prove Fury was flat out cheating.

    If you watch the first fight and compare it to the second fight, they both fought the exact same, landed the exact same shots and everything. The difference this time around is that Fury came in 70+ pounds heavier than his opponent, and even at heavyweight, that big of a weight difference makes THAT much of a difference in how much you can sit on your punches, which is why Wilder couldn't take Fury's shots this time around. It's simple, Wilder lost because he fought someone way bigger than him, which is mostly normal.
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    Originally Posted by 300BLK View Post
    I watched a handful of those glovegate videos and none of them are enough evidence to prove Fury was flat out cheating.

    If you watch the first fight and compare it to the second fight, they both fought the exact same, landed the exact same shots and everything. The difference this time around is that Fury came in 70+ pounds heavier than his opponent, and even at heavyweight, that big of a weight difference makes THAT much of a difference in how much you can sit on your punches, which is why Wilder couldn't take Fury's shots this time around. It's simple, Wilder lost because he fought someone way bigger than him, which is mostly normal.
    Once again, it’s not just the Wilder fights he’s been doing it for years. Nobody is claiming that it’s the reason he beat Wilder, just that it’s a cheater trick.

    The main reason he won is because he was constantly closing the gap and using his size to his advantage while not letting Wilder have a chance to setup like he was giving him breaks in the first fight.

    That has nothing to do with weather he was cheating and when you see his skin and knuckles and thumb outline in the place where the wraps should be there’s nothing you can say. It’s clear video footage evidence weather you saw if yourself or not. He adjusts the glove in and out, it’s loose, and it’s against the rules. Period. Has nothing to do with Wilder.
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    Fury got busted for dat dere like 5 years back.

    hes a known cheater.

    He also was busted removing padding for sparring partners, which is particularly fuked up. Only someone sick in the head would do that. CTE is no joke and sparring is supposed to just be practicing to get better, not your own personal sadistic battering sessions.
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    Don't buy the cheating nonsense at all LOL
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    Don't buy the cheating nonsense at all LOL
    its not nonsense though.

    It’s not even a debate that he cheated. It’s non negotiable the evidence is clear as day.
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    Pathetic thread is pathetic.

    The cope is strong.

    Your boy got his ass beat.

    Deal with it.
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    Originally Posted by nn586 View Post
    Pathetic thread is pathetic.

    The cope is strong.

    Your boy got his ass beat.

    Deal with it.
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    Wilder was WBCs man; they backed him. WBC were present to inspect Fury’s gloves being put on.

    Non-story. Laughable that anyone took this chit seriously.

    I think Wilder will put on a better showing if they have a third fight (you never know with a Fury). Fury will win again though.

    Fury has got Wilders number on his big right.
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