Who cares about your liver when exotic ingredients gives you the feels right?
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06-03-2021, 05:35 AM #1630
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2021 and people still arguing about preworkouts.
Glad some things never change.
Let me throw fuel on the fire by saying you probably don't need a super-exotic, gray-area, high-stim pre if you can't bench tree fiddy.
Please post your video application - with IPF style pause - and I will work on getting your approval through the bureaucracy over at the Stim Council.NOV || Ohio Chapter || Be more, have less.
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06-03-2021, 08:49 AM #1634
No, you didn't say it, you implied it with your blanket statement. Maybe let people make their own decisions with regards to moderation? Nobody likes somebody on a high horse. I'm betting most people here enjoy a drink from time to time, fast food, spending a bit too much time in the sun etc. Use and abuse aren't conducive.
Squat and Deadlift
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06-18-2021, 06:55 PM #1648
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Any holy grail no-stim and/or low-stim recommendations?
I tried both Volugen and Al****en from Morphogen nutrition because the labels looked amazing. The performance was pretty weak. Al****en made me sleepy. Volugen, I can't tell a difference.
I've got a couple of tubs of D-Fine8 for free, it definitely has caffeine but not much else is noticeable.
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