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    Originally Posted by eatyourspinach View Post
    the arginine is useless but lets not forget that two of everyone's favorites (XF and Vasolate) also had added glutamine and creatine FWIW
    You're right, Ultra Peptide 2.0 had ~400mg of creatine mono and taurine. I appreciate that it was explicitly listed on the label.

    It's a pretty apt comparison when considering the protein per scoop and the price (UMP does have 30 servings vs. 24 in UP2.0).

    I was a cheapskate, though, always buying the $19.99 closeout flavors from Dave. I guess I am partly to blame for them going out of business.
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    Originally Posted by UncleWade View Post
    You're right, Ultra Peptide 2.0 had ~400mg of creatine mono and taurine. I appreciate that it was explicitly listed on the label.

    It's a pretty apt comparison when considering the protein per scoop and the price (UMP does have 30 servings vs. 24 in UP2.0).

    I was a cheapskate, though, always buying the $19.99 closeout flavors from Dave. I guess I am partly to blame for them going out of business.
    It was explicitly listed on the label.

    And one reason given was that it was the approximate amount of creatine you'd get from a steak dinner.

    And, as I recall, it was not used towards the total protein number on the nutrition label, right?

    I really, really miss the strawberry UP 2.0. Banana too. But mostly strawberry.

    I only bought like a dozen tubs when it was 50% off because I was about to move and I didn't realize it was gone-gone, or I would have bought dozens
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    So this week was my 1st week of being back on Pres, Monday I started with C4U and I felt it pretty good.... got the crazy itchies more than ever before. Yesterday I tried Dark Energy and timed my lunch perfectly, so here's my take.

    Did I get flooded with some crazy rush of energy.... nope. I will say that I could feel it, but it was a more euphoric feeling than balls to the wall energy... and that was totally ok. I had energy to keep pushing through a 2 hour workout, as a matter of fact, I hit a PR in DL and felt I might have been able to do more weight had I skipped the 455 and maybe went to 465-475 as I was able to pull 455 twice. Did that and did a nice back workout and before I knew it I was an hour and a half into my workout....so def something to it. Today I will Take my DVST8 again since Ill be doing 495lb rack pulls and shoulders lets see if it feels different from my previous tries.
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    Sup guys, does anyone know how to can buy Dark Energy, in Europe? Other than ordering it from the US?
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    Originally Posted by MisterInfinity View Post
    Sup guys, does anyone know how to can buy Dark Energy, in Europe? Other than ordering it from the US?
    Go to IG and check the Review Bros and message them and ask them if they know of a store in the U.K.
    that might stock Dark Energy. I don't think but I could be mistaken that it's not available in Europe .
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    Fug permabanned? Nice.

    PES protein has been my go to shake lately. What other companies do I need to check out for good whey/blends?
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    I just read a study about how BCAAs don't preserve muscle mass but the great thing about this forum is that I keep getting an "Access Denied, dont have permission to post on this server" message so I can't make threads
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    Originally Posted by eatyourspinach View Post
    I just read a study about how BCAAs don't preserve muscle mass but the great thing about this forum is that I keep getting an "Access Denied, dont have permission to post on this server" message so I can't make threads
    they know of your anti-BCAA heretic ways and won't let you spread madness.
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    Originally Posted by eatyourspinach View Post
    I just read a study about how BCAAs don't preserve muscle mass but the great thing about this forum is that I keep getting an "Access Denied, dont have permission to post on this server" message so I can't make threads
    I just had it happen to me, so you have my sympathy.

    What I've learned to counteract is that so long as you go under the advanced reply, you can go pack to the posting page. Amongst the text, there is some line, quote, or paragraph that is causing the error. If you cut a few chunks out at a time, you can usually isolate the part giving you the error and post. Then just post whatever it was you cut out 45 seconds later as a second reply.

    In any case, BCAAs have struck me as a scam for a long time once I looked more into them and stopped bothering many years ago.

    They're still calories, and a vastly inferior one than just taking straight protein that already contains the aminos you need.

    I don't know what article you found, but just browsing real quickly led me to one such as this in relation to fasting. Quite a long read, but skipping to the end:

    We can conclude from these two studies that BCAA infusion not only fails to increase the rate of muscle protein synthesis in human subjects, but actually reduces the rate of muscle protein synthesis and the rate of muscle protein turnover. The catabolic state was not reversed to an anabolic state in either study. Further, a sustained reduction in the rate of muscle protein turnover would be expected to have a detrimental effect on muscle strength, even if muscle mass is maintained. Muscle protein turnover renews the muscle fibers and results in increased efficiency of contraction at the single fiber level [16], which is reflected in increased strength in vivo, independent of muscle mass [17, 18].
    I fast for lengthy periods and have yet to suffer any ill effects or losses, and from my own experience it boils down to getting enough protein in between when breaking the fast.

    That leads me to my own concern with BCAAs: They are still calories, and quite a hefty load all things considered, so it seems reasonable to assume that it could knock a person out of a fasted state, returning their body to normal, and negating any benefits of fasting in the first place. It could certainly vary from person to person in the same way that ketosis has some variability depending on the individual, but at the same time, BCAA drinks and powders might as well be treated as glorified light sodas seeing as the concentration of BCAAs is enough to really add up.

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    Originally Posted by eatyourspinach View Post
    I just read a study about how BCAAs don't preserve muscle mass but the great thing about this forum is that I keep getting an "Access Denied, dont have permission to post on this server" message so I can't make threads
    Who's behind this study? Hopefully its not the same farmers that started something similar years back
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    Who's behind this study? Hopefully its not the same farmers that started something similar years back
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    Slow ass thread.... lets go mix some hemavol, best bcaa, along with some CBD gummies. Trolololololo
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    It’s looking more and more likely our gyms won’t be opening until around may/June.

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    Originally Posted by faipdeooiad View Post
    It’s looking more and more likely our gyms won’t be opening until around may/June.

    It’s gonna be newbie gains all over again.
    As a gym bro I feel empathy and sympathy, our gyms have been closed since mid-October and remain that way as well until April. However, after having taken a dick in the butt this week as a direct result of Brexit, The UK can **** off lol
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