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    Yeah Ill bounce back, and I hope that I can rebound quickly. if not burger flippin and whatever else needed just to keep the lights on.
    You gotta do like you said whatever it takes to keep those lights on I have 2 jobs but one which
    is my bartending service is on ice cause no one can have large gatherings and the other is high
    end retail on straight commission where my $ comes from tourist but NO one is traveling so I'm
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    Has anyone heard any news/reports on Gaspari's new Superpump Aggression? Ever since they gave us reps the boot I decided I'll never give that company another dime. All the Expo's, shows, demo's I did for them to never be reimbursed is complete bullsh-t along with the way Rich shows no loyalty to anyone.

    But wondering how it sizes up to the other pre's currently on the market.






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    Originally Posted by Big_Spaz View Post
    Has anyone heard any news/reports on Gaspari's new Superpump Aggression? Ever since they gave us reps the boot I decided I'll never give that company another dime. All the Expo's, shows, demo's I did for them to never be reimbursed is complete bullsh-t along with the way Rich shows no loyalty to anyone.

    But wondering how it sizes up to the other pre's currently on the market.






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    Seems too stimmed out for me
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    Originally Posted by Big_Spaz View Post
    Has anyone heard any news/reports on Gaspari's new Superpump Aggression? Ever since they gave us reps the boot I decided I'll never give that company another dime. All the Expo's, shows, demo's I did for them to never be reimbursed is complete bullsh-t along with the way Rich shows no loyalty to anyone.

    But wondering how it sizes up to the other pre's currently on the market.






    -Spaz


    That fact they did that to you means I won't give them a dime either.

    Shame really. I was going to look into using some of their stuff again.

    But not now.

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    Originally Posted by Big_Spaz View Post
    Has anyone heard any news/reports on Gaspari's new Superpump Aggression? Ever since they gave us reps the boot I decided I'll never give that company another dime. All the Expo's, shows, demo's I did for them to never be reimbursed is complete bullsh-t along with the way Rich shows no loyalty to anyone.

    But wondering how it sizes up to the other pre's currently on the market.






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    I don't see why would anyone want to buy it to be honest. The profile is nothing special and alot of better options came out to the market way before it. Gaspari is way behind tbh.
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    Originally Posted by TMac26 View Post
    That fact they did that to you means I won't give them a dime either.

    Shame really. I was going to look into using some of their stuff again.

    But not now.

    **** those guys.
    Thanks TMac I appreciate that buddy!


    Yeah Rich had a bunch of loyal people to him that he just totally screwed over for no reason at all. It's a shame really, but I guess that's the way he wants to continue to operate. Which is fine, they just won't see a dime from me.







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    So I finally got a tub of Dark Energy today, just got back from my first workout.

    Jesus take the wheel....... Good Lord.

    I thought I've been around the block recently with heavy hitters like BZRK and all the various versions of Arez, but this is a whole new level of.... something.

    According to someone who may or may not be me, this feels a lot like the drug 2C-B that may or may not have been used recreationally years ago during the raver days.

    Total euphoria, all kinds of feelings of empathy and introspection. I went through a gazillion tubs of Craze and I don't think it was ever THIS good. Maybe close though, it was so many years ago.

    Driving back from the gym I just did not want to get out of my car. I had SiriusXM Chill channel going and I was fully absorbed into feeling all the bass.

    Wowza. Wont be using this stuff regularly that's for sure. I feel like I should buy 3 or 4 tubs just to stock up though.
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    Originally Posted by sloop View Post
    So I finally got a tub of Dark Energy today, just got back from my first workout.

    Jesus take the wheel....... Good Lord.

    I thought I've been around the block recently with heavy hitters like BZRK and all the various versions of Arez, but this is a whole new level of.... something.

    According to someone who may or may not be me, this feels a lot like the drug 2C-B that may or may not have been used recreationally years ago during the raver days.

    Total euphoria, all kinds of feelings of empathy and introspection. I went through a gazillion tubs of Craze and I don't think it was ever THIS good. Maybe close though, it was so many years ago.

    Driving back from the gym I just did not want to get out of my car. I had SiriusXM Chill channel going and I was fully absorbed into feeling all the bass.

    Wowza. Wont be using this stuff regularly that's for sure. I feel like I should buy 3 or 4 tubs just to stock up though.
    1000% ^^

    The crash is pretty gentle and the day after isn't too bad either, especially compared to 1'3 Volt.

    Dark Energy Orange Research is delicious too! A workout buddy tried out Rocket Research flavor and said it was gross.

    But yeah, I had the same thought about stocking up. Walmart is selling it now, but I feel silly thinking about buying a supply when I'm only using it once or twice a week max. It doesn't mean I won't stock up anyway though! Lol
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    Originally Posted by Camarija View Post
    1000% ^^

    The crash is pretty gentle and the day after isn't too bad either, especially compared to 1'3 Volt.

    Dark Energy Orange Research is delicious too! A workout buddy tried out Rocket Research flavor and said it was gross.

    But yeah, I had the same thought about stocking up. Walmart is selling it now, but I feel silly thinking about buying a supply when I'm only using it once or twice a week max. It doesn't mean I won't stock up anyway though! Lol
    Yep, I have the orange flavor. It's actually pretty tasty.
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    Dark Energy you say?

    Gonna check it out
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    Originally Posted by sloop View Post
    So I finally got a tub of Dark Energy today, just got back from my first workout.

    Jesus take the wheel....... Good Lord.

    I thought I've been around the block recently with heavy hitters like BZRK and all the various versions of Arez, but this is a whole new level of.... something.

    According to someone who may or may not be me, this feels a lot like the drug 2C-B that may or may not have been used recreationally years ago during the raver days.

    Total euphoria, all kinds of feelings of empathy and introspection. I went through a gazillion tubs of Craze and I don't think it was ever THIS good. Maybe close though, it was so many years ago.

    Driving back from the gym I just did not want to get out of my car. I had SiriusXM Chill channel going and I was fully absorbed into feeling all the bass.

    Wowza. Wont be using this stuff regularly that's for sure. I feel like I should buy 3 or 4 tubs just to stock up though.
    One of the best high stim on the market atm. Provided you're OK with the shadiness lol

    Speaking of which, do yourself a favor and get a tub of Excelsior while you can. Even better in my books.
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    Originally Posted by Big_Spaz View Post
    Has anyone heard any news/reports on Gaspari's new Superpump Aggression? Ever since they gave us reps the boot I decided I'll never give that company another dime. All the Expo's, shows, demo's I did for them to never be reimbursed is complete bullsh-t along with the way Rich shows no loyalty to anyone.

    But wondering how it sizes up to the other pre's currently on the market.






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    That's so ****ty dude. I'll never understand treating people like this in business or life.

    Product doesn't look like anything special.
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    Originally Posted by TMac26 View Post
    Dark Energy you say?

    Gonna check it out
    Yessir, it's a wild one.

    Originally Posted by BenBlue View Post
    One of the best high stim on the market atm. Provided you're OK with the shadiness lol

    Speaking of which, do yourself a favor and get a tub of Excelsior while you can. Even better in my books.
    I see that mentioned all the time on reviews and youtube videos. It's so damn expensive though.
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    Originally Posted by sloop View Post
    Yessir, it's a wild one.



    I see that mentioned all the time on reviews and youtube videos. It's so damn expensive though.
    From the feedback that I've seen on Dark Energy you don't wanna use it too often because the tolerance on it
    builds very quick and it's a strange PW cause some people have taken it and felt NOTHING and others
    love it but again use it sparingly and if you buy some to store keep it in the fridge even if it's sealed cause I heard
    some have opened new tubs and it was already gooey inside. Excelsior looks like it's gone down in price Lol $49.99
    compared to about a year ago it was $79.99 and people were buying it at that price.
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    Originally Posted by BenBlue View Post
    One of the best high stim on the market atm. Provided you're OK with the shadiness lol

    Speaking of which, do yourself a favor and get a tub of Excelsior while you can. Even better in my books.
    Aww fuk, I just ordered Excelsior.

    What am I getting myself into lol.
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    Originally Posted by sloop View Post
    So I finally got a tub of Dark Energy today, just got back from my first workout.

    Jesus take the wheel....... Good Lord.

    I thought I've been around the block recently with heavy hitters like BZRK and all the various versions of Arez, but this is a whole new level of.... something.

    According to someone who may or may not be me, this feels a lot like the drug 2C-B that may or may not have been used recreationally years ago during the raver days.

    Total euphoria, all kinds of feelings of empathy and introspection. I went through a gazillion tubs of Craze and I don't think it was ever THIS good. Maybe close though, it was so many years ago.

    Driving back from the gym I just did not want to get out of my car. I had SiriusXM Chill channel going and I was fully absorbed into feeling all the bass.

    Wowza. Wont be using this stuff regularly that's for sure. I feel like I should buy 3 or 4 tubs just to stock up though.
    Must be the GABA feel good in action..... notsrs
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    Originally Posted by sloop View Post
    Aww fuk, I just ordered Excelsior.

    What am I getting myself into lol.
    LOL a good time, that's what you got yourself into.

    I've heard people taking different dosing w Excelsior. For me, 2 scoops is A LOT. 1 scoop is noticeable but not over the top. 1.25-1.5 scoops was the sweet spot for me.
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    Originally Posted by BenBlue View Post
    LOL a good time, that's what you got yourself into.

    I've heard people taking different dosing w Excelsior. For me, 2 scoops is A LOT. 1 scoop is noticeable but not over the top. 1.25-1.5 scoops was the sweet spot for me.
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    The new formula of APS Mesomorph arrived, so of course I had to try it out for my chest workout the other day.



    In the name of science, today I whipped out my OG Mesomorph (that one) to compare.



    This time was my full body routine, which in all fairness is what I find to be much easier than my chest/back/leg dedicated days because of how the core muscle groups are spread out versus a concerted effort beating one group to death.

    I'm also somewhat stim resistant, never been "blown away" by DMAA (but still love it), and had a bit of pissed off energy for today's lift. That said, to me they felt similar in terms of experience.

    Great focus, a nice, steady sense of energy throughout the workout, and with zero crash. Recovery between sets felt good and mood was also good.

    I would best describe it as a productive workout with the new formula, providing sustained energy and focus that left me sore as hell at the end of the day. The original gets the edge on longevity, but considering we went from pure DMAA to DMHA + Geranium, I still found it impressive.

    I lift completely fasted, sometimes nearing 20+ hours, and in spite of that my workouts can go on a bit, so for my needs I found the new Mesomorph to be a great pre-workout. It's similar to the new Jack3d, but I found the Mesomorph to be a much calmer experience with no jittery feeling. And despite only clocking in at 300mg of caffeine, the new Mesomorph provided a smooth level of energy. My go-to pre for chest day has been Defiant Unleashed Holiday edition, which has a few extra goodies like noopept, alongside a whopping 450mg of caffeine. Mesomorph kept up nicely to what I've been used to, and I wouldn't hesitate to take it over the usual.

    Does the new formula overtake the original? Probably not for most people, but it is certainly a worthy pre-workout all on its own that I was very satisfied with, and look forward to taking again to continue comparing mental notes.

    Flavor-wise, I went with the Carnival Cotton Candy because I loved the original, and it's still wonderful, tasting like what would happen if you gave a raccoon a clump of fresh cotton candy:
    Spoiler!

    I have to give bonus points to APS/Hi-Tech for this iteration, however, as they have returned to the original's exact formulation that does not contain maltodextrin. Like I said, I lift fasted and maltodextrin is not only a fasting issue, but personally it makes me feel sick like no other getting that injection on an empty stomach.


    I would still say if you're looking for a solid "wake-the-f*ck-up" pre-workout to instead look at something like Assassin or Immortal X by Rage Nutrition. After any lift I take a spritz of those two because I'll box 20 minutes after to shake off the extra rage.

    My only recommendation would be to stay the hell away from the firecracker ("rocket pop") flavor of Assassin and go for the Mango Pineapple (there is also a limited edition Jaffa partnered with Fitness Deal News). Firecracker tastes like someone dropped a rocket popsicle in dirt at a picnic, then scooped up the dirt where it fell and mixed it up. Waaaaay to bitter for me because it has the tendency to linger well beyond when I first drank it, but the Mango Pineapple is perfectly fine to take as a shot.
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    Originally Posted by nkiritsis13 View Post
    The new formula of APS Mesomorph arrived, so of course I had to try it out for my chest workout the other day.



    In the name of science, today I whipped out my OG Mesomorph (that one) to compare.



    This time was my full body routine, which in all fairness is what I find to be much easier than my chest/back/leg dedicated days because of how the core muscle groups are spread out versus a concerted effort beating one group to death.

    I'm also somewhat stim resistant, never been "blown away" by DMAA (but still love it), and had a bit of pissed off energy for today's lift. That said, to me they felt similar in terms of experience.

    Great focus, a nice, steady sense of energy throughout the workout, and with zero crash. Recovery between sets felt good and mood was also good.

    I would best describe it as a productive workout with the new formula, providing sustained energy and focus that left me sore as hell at the end of the day. The original gets the edge on longevity, but considering we went from pure DMAA to DMHA + Geranium, I still found it impressive.

    I lift completely fasted, sometimes nearing 20+ hours, and in spite of that my workouts can go on a bit, so for my needs I found the new Mesomorph to be a great pre-workout. It's similar to the new Jack3d, but I found the Mesomorph to be a much calmer experience with no jittery feeling. And despite only clocking in at 300mg of caffeine, the new Mesomorph provided a smooth level of energy. My go-to pre for chest day has been Defiant Unleashed Holiday edition, which has a few extra goodies like noopept, alongside a whopping 450mg of caffeine. Mesomorph kept up nicely to what I've been used to, and I wouldn't hesitate to take it over the usual.

    Does the new formula overtake the original? Probably not for most people, but it is certainly a worthy pre-workout all on its own that I was very satisfied with, and look forward to taking again to continue comparing mental notes.

    Flavor-wise, I went with the Carnival Cotton Candy because I loved the original, and it's still wonderful, tasting like what would happen if you gave a raccoon a clump of fresh cotton candy:
    Spoiler!

    I have to give bonus points to APS/Hi-Tech for this iteration, however, as they have returned to the original's exact formulation that does not contain maltodextrin. Like I said, I lift fasted and maltodextrin is not only a fasting issue, but personally it makes me feel sick like no other getting that injection on an empty stomach.


    I would still say if you're looking for a solid "wake-the-f*ck-up" pre-workout to instead look at something like Assassin or Immortal X by Rage Nutrition. After any lift I take a spritz of those two because I'll box 20 minutes after to shake off the extra rage.

    My only recommendation would be to stay the hell away from the firecracker ("rocket pop") flavor of Assassin and go for the Mango Pineapple (there is also a limited edition Jaffa partnered with Fitness Deal News). Firecracker tastes like someone dropped a rocket popsicle in dirt at a picnic, then scooped up the dirt where it fell and mixed it up. Waaaaay to bitter for me because it has the tendency to linger well beyond when I first drank it, but the Mango Pineapple is perfectly fine to take as a shot.
    Nice feedback and I like the comparison of the two versions of Mesomorph and I had a feeling the new
    Meso was going to feel a bit like the last Jacked3d since it's the almost the same stimulant blend put
    out by Hi-Tech the co that makes both of the products but I've heard the same as you mentioned it's
    a better feel than the Jacked3d and I've had the cotton candy flavor and it's uniquely good. I personally
    liked the previous version of Meso with the Sengillia extract thought it had a different feel than some of
    the other pre's out so I figured when this new Meso with geranium was released sites would be unloading
    the Sengillia one Lol that's not happening I've seen better deals on the new version than the Sengillia
    version and the cheapest I've seen it for is like $25 and for me that's NOT a real deal.
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    The new formula of APS Mesomorph arrived, so of course I had to try it out for my chest workout the other day. ...
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    Originally Posted by sloop View Post
    People are double dosing Excelsior?
    Directions say 1-2 scoops I think? Either way, yes, people are taking two scoops.
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    I cant stand noopept.


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    Looked up Excelsior.

    They aren't even hiding the Octopamine.

    I remember when that stuff was "hidden" in formulas
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