2020 Part 6: preworkouts & forums

[superhuman67]

I just got another tub of Excelsior in, and it looks like they've changed to red tubs?

Have any of you supplement geeks heard any feedback on this new batch?

Labels are the same, only different is batch code.

From the feedback I've seen on the red tubs it's the same as the previous and it still has
meth in it

[superhuman67]

Has anyone tried apesh*t preworkout before? Seen a decent sale on it but didn't know if I should pull the trigger

I've never tried anything from Primeval Labs but from the feedback I've seen the new tubs of Ape Sh#t
with the big pic of the ape on the front DON'T have the same focus feel as the old tubs cause they dropped
one of the focus ingredients from it. I've been seeing their Mega Pre Black on sale lately for $17.50 a tub
lately and that was supposed to be their better PW but it's dropped in price considerably so that might be
getting reformulated or they just have a BAD batch that their trying to get rid of

[sloop]

From the feedback I've seen on the red tubs it's the same as the previous and it still has
meth in it

I was hoping you would respond, you always seem to know what's up.

Thanks!

[superhuman67]

I was hoping you would respond, you always seem to know what's up.

Thanks!

I don't use all the new stuff that keeps coming out all the time BUT I'm always searching for feedback
cause I have so many people contacting me all the time about supps so I try to give feedback either
from my experience or someone else's.

[sloop]

I don't use all the new stuff that keeps coming out all the time BUT I'm always searching for feedback
cause I have so many people contacting me all the time about supps so I try to give feedback either
from my experience or someone else's.

If you read any feedback on the new Excelsior batches, let me know. Send me a link or something, thanks.

It's going to be a long while before I open it.

[superhuman67]

Serving Size: 77.9 grams (approximately 2 scoop)
Servings Per Container: 22
Amount Per Serving % Daily Value
Calories 300
Total Fat 6 g 8%**
Saturated Fat 4 g 20%**
Cholesterol 60 mg 20%
Total Carbohydrate 31 g 11%**
Dietary Fiber 9 g 32%**
Total Sugars 2 g †
Protein 34 g
Vitamin A (As Beta Carotene) 900 mcg 100%
Vitamin C (Ascorbic Acid) 90 mg 100%
Vitamin D (As Cholecalciferol) 20 mcg 100%
Vitamin E (As D-Alpha Tocopheryl Succinate) 15 mg 100%
Vitamin K (As Phytodione) 120 mcg 100%
Thiamin (as Thiamine HCl) 1.2 mg 100%
Riboflavin 1.3 mg 100%
Niacin 16 mg 100%
Vitamin B6 (As Pyrodoxine HCl) 1.7 mg 100%
Folate 666.66 mcg DFE (400mcg Folic Acid) 400 mcg 167%
Vitamin B12 (As Cyanocobalamin) 2.4 mcg 100%
Biotin 30 mcg 100%

Pantothenic Acid (As Calcium Pantothenate) 5 mg 100%
Calcium 650 mg 50%
Iron 5.55 mg 31%
Phosphorus (from dicalcium phosphate) 296 mg 24%
Iodine (From Kelp) 52.5 mcg 35%
Magnesium (As Magnesium Oxide) 80 mg 19%
Zinc (as Zinc Oxide) 6 mg 55%
Copper (As Cupric Oxide) .8 mg 89%
Manganese (As Manganese Amino Acid Chelate) 2 mg 87%
Chromium (as Chromium Amino Acid Chelate And Chromium Ascorbate) 60 mcg 171%
Molybdenum (As Sodium Molybdate) 30 mcg 67%
Sodium 130 mg 6%
Potassium 290 mg 6%


Stevia Leaf Extract †


MFIT Supps Victus Enzyme Blend 100mg †
Maltodextrin, Bromelain, Papain, Protease, Amylase, Cellulase
MFIT Supps Victus ModCarb® Blend 25g †
Organic Oat Bran Powder, Organic Buckwheat Grain Powder, Organic Millet Grain Powder, Organic Amaranthus retroflexus Grain Powder, Organic Chenopodium quinoa Grain Powder, Organic Chia Seed Powder
Other Ingredients:
Whey Protein Concentrate, Whey Protein Isolate, Inulin, Medium Chain Triglycerides, Micellar Casein, Natural Flavor, Guar Gum, Ferrous Fumarate
Contains: Milk & Soy.

I picked this up for $14.99 a tub and if you look at the ingredients and profile it's a very good profile
and at 2 scoops you get 22 servings BUT it gets bad feedback because of the flavor. The choc which
is the flavor of the 2 tubs that I have is more of a DARK type choc which isn't sweet but it doesn't
taste bad but I guess people who bought this flavor wanted more of a sweet milk choc type taste.
I personally like dark choc better that is not too sweet but more flavorful so I don't mind the flavor.
I've been using 1 scoop and combining with 1 scoop of another protein flavor and that has worked out
VERY WELL! This choc combines well with flavored proteins such as banana,strawberry,mocha, caramel,
choc mint, and other choc flavored protein. For this price tag and that ingredient profile I definitely
recommend it and you'll get 44 servings per tub using it at 1 scoop like I have been doing but again
you have to like dark not too sweet choc flavor to appreciate it and $14.99 is the price I HUNTED

[gbullock32]

I miss taking all the questionable pre workouts, nothing beats those feels. Stupid work drug tests ruining all the fun.

Also snagged the Pure Protein RTD cans in Vanilla Cream for $11 for a case of 12, figured for that price I'd give it a shot, not bad. Would never pay more than $11 for the case but flavor is OK and 35g of protein, 2g of carbs, 1g fat, all in 160 calories is decent. Likely not the best protein source but easy to throw in my lunch for work.

[superhuman67]

If you read any feedback on the new Excelsior batches, let me know. Send me a link or something, thanks.

It's going to be a long while before I open it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygkBuSCkei0

He just posted feedback on the new red tubs cause he got a lot of people asking him about it
and though he's not a fan of the effects he tested the new red tub and he said it was exactly
like the old tubs..

[sloop]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygkBuSCkei0

He just posted feedback on the new red tubs cause he got a lot of people asking him about it
and though he's not a fan of the effects he tested the new red tub and he said it was exactly
like the old tubs..

Ironic. That's the dude I ordered from lol

(I also grabbed another bottle of Thermal Spark)

[crpav]

Ironic. That's the dude I ordered from lol

(I also grabbed another bottle of Thermal Spark)

Didn't order from there but did sort of watch the video. Too hard to follow some of these reviewers as they are all over the place and a bit over the top. Anyway just got a tub in but not sure if I want to use after hearing mixed opinions and the talk of who knows what ingredients. I guess if I have used Double Impact a few times why not?

[sloop]

Didn't order from there but did sort of watch the video. Too hard to follow some of these reviewers as they are all over the place and a bit over the top. Anyway just got a tub in but not sure if I want to use after hearing mixed opinions and the talk of who knows what ingredients. I guess if I have used Double Impact a few times why not?

I dont even know what Double Imapct is, but I can almost guarantee Excelsior is unlike anything you've ever tried.

[Jdot5]

Opinions on this pre workout

[eatyourspinach]

Opinions on this pre workout

missing something?

[gbullock32]

Opinions on this pre workout

Fixed. Would need to 2 scoop it myself, so depends on price, not sure I'd spend more than $30 on that, so if it is that price point or less I'd give it a go.

[nkiritsis13]

Not being a big fan of mix-ins, I did an experiment earlier with some Ghost Whey Nutter Butter where I ran scoops through a sifter and removed most of the cookie bits, then separated the "pure" protein into a separate container.

The first thing I noticed when comparing them is that the protein-only mix smells better. I've been really ambivalent about this flavor because every time I open the tub, there is some kind of lingering after-scent that was immediately absent with the cookie bits removed.

As for the flavor, well, I don't eat junk food and it has probably been close to two decades since I've eaten anything from Nabsico and I can't even remember if I've ever actually eaten a Nutter Butter in my entire life it's been so long. That out of the way, I greatly preferred it, probably in part due to the smell factor also being markedly improved. Overall, I found myself enjoying it fully for the first time with nothing hindering the taste.

I've tried the same procedure with the Ghost Whey Chips Ahoy! flavor with similar results.

The main difference is that I've never found that flavor to have any sort of strange scent, in fact, I quite like it overall. However, I have again felt that the actual taste has been greatly improved for me. I always wound up with an aftertaste that downgraded the taste to something far more mediocre. Removing the cookie bits really helped to smooth out the flavor of the protein.

While a lot of this is of course subjective, especially because most people haven't abstained from sugary foods long enough to really notice a difference, this really stood out to me and has me both impressed and a little disappointed.

To elaborate, Ghost's protein powder is flavored very well all on its own, which I'd say tracks as a huge fan of their peanut butter cereal protein flavor in particular. They pull off very authentic peanut butter sandwich cookie and chocolate chip cookie flavors all on their own.

At the same time, it's disappointing that they already have a stellar foundation that they adulterate with cheap/chitty ingredients. While they manage to balance a surprisingly impressive overall nutritional profile (3.855 calories per gram, 26g of protein, 1 g fat and fiber, 3g sugar, 2g added sugar, in a 41.5g serving), it would be even better without (I feel) not sacrificing flavor because they already did a good job in the first place! And unlike Ghost's protein, Nabisco's cookies all have rubbish ingredients, and frankly, you could buy a whole family size for less than four bucks if you were so inclined compared to a forty dollar tub of protein. You wouldn't order a sirloin steak and then dab crisco on it, and as small potatoes as it is, the fact that their protein does taste so good (in my opinion better) without the add ins makes me just shake my head a bit.

But! At least sifting is perfectly viable, easy, and quick for anyone else who happens to not like the actual cookie mix in taste, which was the point of this little experiment.

[superhuman67]

Fixed. Would need to 2 scoop it myself, so depends on price, not sure I'd spend more than $30 on that, so if it is that price point or less I'd give it a go.

I don't think he's asking about this PW and it's APE Sh#t from Primeval Labs that he's asking about
if I'm not mistaken.

[sloop]

Fixed. Would need to 2 scoop it myself, so depends on price, not sure I'd spend more than $30 on that, so if it is that price point or less I'd give it a go.

Two scoops = 700mg caffeine

Yikes

[Jdot5]

the pre i was referring to was Gorilla Minds preworkout. the ad commercial is goofy but the label looks pretty solid (id add in a fat burner to get more caffeine if i stuck with one scoop). i ordered yesterday so once i get it in and try it, ill give some thoughts on it. Got it for $42 after shipping

[TheFugitive]

the pre i was referring to was Gorilla Minds preworkout. the ad commercial is goofy but the label looks pretty solid (id add in a fat burner to get more caffeine if i stuck with one scoop). i ordered yesterday so once i get it in and try it, ill give some thoughts on it. Got it for $42 after shipping

Its a great price and the profile has everything most of us need in a PWO, keep us posted on your thoughts

[Jdot5]

Its a great price and the profile has everything most of us need in a PWO, keep us posted on your thoughts

thanks bro. Definitely will be giving feed back for sure. Suppose to be here by Monday

[Iluvmud]

Serving Size: 77.9 grams (approximately 2 scoop)
Servings Per Container: 22
Amount Per Serving % Daily Value
Calories 300
Total Fat 6 g 8%**
Saturated Fat 4 g 20%**
Cholesterol 60 mg 20%
Total Carbohydrate 31 g 11%**
Dietary Fiber 9 g 32%**
Total Sugars 2 g †
Protein 34 g
Vitamin A (As Beta Carotene) 900 mcg 100%
Vitamin C (Ascorbic Acid) 90 mg 100%
Vitamin D (As Cholecalciferol) 20 mcg 100%
Vitamin E (As D-Alpha Tocopheryl Succinate) 15 mg 100%
Vitamin K (As Phytodione) 120 mcg 100%
Thiamin (as Thiamine HCl) 1.2 mg 100%
Riboflavin 1.3 mg 100%
Niacin 16 mg 100%
Vitamin B6 (As Pyrodoxine HCl) 1.7 mg 100%
Folate 666.66 mcg DFE (400mcg Folic Acid) 400 mcg 167%
Vitamin B12 (As Cyanocobalamin) 2.4 mcg 100%
Biotin 30 mcg 100%

Pantothenic Acid (As Calcium Pantothenate) 5 mg 100%
Calcium 650 mg 50%
Iron 5.55 mg 31%
Phosphorus (from dicalcium phosphate) 296 mg 24%
Iodine (From Kelp) 52.5 mcg 35%
Magnesium (As Magnesium Oxide) 80 mg 19%
Zinc (as Zinc Oxide) 6 mg 55%
Copper (As Cupric Oxide) .8 mg 89%
Manganese (As Manganese Amino Acid Chelate) 2 mg 87%
Chromium (as Chromium Amino Acid Chelate And Chromium Ascorbate) 60 mcg 171%
Molybdenum (As Sodium Molybdate) 30 mcg 67%
Sodium 130 mg 6%
Potassium 290 mg 6%


Stevia Leaf Extract †


MFIT Supps Victus Enzyme Blend 100mg †
Maltodextrin, Bromelain, Papain, Protease, Amylase, Cellulase
MFIT Supps Victus ModCarb® Blend 25g †
Organic Oat Bran Powder, Organic Buckwheat Grain Powder, Organic Millet Grain Powder, Organic Amaranthus retroflexus Grain Powder, Organic Chenopodium quinoa Grain Powder, Organic Chia Seed Powder
Other Ingredients:
Whey Protein Concentrate, Whey Protein Isolate, Inulin, Medium Chain Triglycerides, Micellar Casein, Natural Flavor, Guar Gum, Ferrous Fumarate
Contains: Milk & Soy.

I picked this up for $14.99 a tub and if you look at the ingredients and profile it's a very good profile
and at 2 scoops you get 22 servings BUT it gets bad feedback because of the flavor. The choc which
is the flavor of the 2 tubs that I have is more of a DARK type choc which isn't sweet but it doesn't
taste bad but I guess people who bought this flavor wanted more of a sweet milk choc type taste.
I personally like dark choc better that is not too sweet but more flavorful so I don't mind the flavor.
I've been using 1 scoop and combining with 1 scoop of another protein flavor and that has worked out
VERY WELL! This choc combines well with flavored proteins such as banana,strawberry,mocha, caramel,
choc mint, and other choc flavored protein. For this price tag and that ingredient profile I definitely
recommend it and you'll get 44 servings per tub using it at 1 scoop like I have been doing but again
you have to like dark not too sweet choc flavor to appreciate it and $14.99 is the price I HUNTED

Expiration not a problem?

[superhuman67]

Expiration not a problem?

Exp is 12/21 so I don't see any issues and don't forget it's NOT sweet but it's fantastic when you do
1 scoop and combine it with a scoop of another flavor though I've had it at 2 scoops and I was fine
with the taste but I personally don't like overly sweet taste when I'm drinking but I do when I use a
protein for proats cause the sweeter flavor tend to flavor the oats better.

[nkiritsis13]

Two scoops = 700mg caffeine

Yikes

I had to do a double take, but the two scoop serving is only 350mg; the one scoop is 175mg.

I hate when pre-workouts do that because like hell is one scoop a serving. It's like the "two cookies per serving" of pre-workouts.


Best example I've seen recently is Raw Nutrition Raw Pre:



100mg for 2 scoops.

The only thing that confused me more was seeing the same website covering the same brand with one of the most hyperbolic headlines, Strongest Fat Burner EVER? RAW Nutrition’s IGNITE Breaks the Mold.

Spoiler!

Exaggerations aside, something I hate to say, but Priceplow tends to do with some brands, I couldn't help flip back and forth between labels trying to understand who this company's even aiming for.

[eatyourspinach]

Exaggerations aside, something I hate to say, but Priceplow tends to do with some brands, I couldn't help flip back and forth between labels trying to understand who this company's even aiming for.

If you listened to Priceplow, Myprotein is the greatest line of supplements out when they are mediocre at best

[TheFugitive]

If you listened to Priceplow, Myprotein is the greatest line of supplements out when they are mediocre at best

Do those guys even lift?

[eatyourspinach]

Do those guys even lift?

resistance band home workouts

[SOH11]

If you listened to Priceplow, Myprotein is the greatest line of supplements out when they are mediocre at best

Their protein is an awesome value TBH

[superhuman67]

Their protein is an awesome value TBH

Especially when they have the deal on the Impact Whey 3 bags of 2lb for $30
my only gripe is that they don't keep the flavor selections consistently in stock here
in the U.S. or have the flavor selections that they have on their U.K. site.

[eatyourspinach]

Their protein is an awesome value TBH

Especially when they have the deal on the Impact Whey 3 bags of 2lb for $30
my only gripe is that they don't keep the flavor selections consistently in stock here
in the U.S. or have the flavor selections that they have on their U.K. site.

Do you use more than 6 oz of water? Or is it one of those iT tAsTeS gReAt WiTh MiLk powders? Every time I've gotten chocolate I feel like I end up having to add things to give it any flavor

[superhuman67]

Do you use more than 6 oz of water? Or is it one of those iT tAsTeS gReAt WiTh MiLk powders? Every time I've gotten chocolate I feel like I end up having to add things to give it any flavor

Choc,Van,and C&C are NOT their strong flavors so I usually don't order those. When I do the straight
casein then I do choc and van cause I usually mix 1 scoop with a another flavor. When I buy the Impact
Whey I go for the more unique flavors which I think they do better than the basics such as French Toast,
Snicker Doodle, Smore's, Salted Caramel, Mocha, and some of their other unique flavors and usually 8oz
of water still has a strong flavor taste.