2020 Part 6: preworkouts & forums

[sloop]

Dark Energy Update: Took a half scoop, turned on Ride the Lightning. I can't remember the last time I've felt this awake. Definitely flips the switch.

Did my accessory work first (stir-the-pot, reverse hypers, pullups) and then finished with my strict overhead pressing. 200x3 moved smoothly after the foundation volume of the 5/3/1 Spinal Tap layout.

I'm very stim tolerant, but will be very judicious about using this one (especially at more than a half-scoop).

Hell to the Yeah

Good stuff! What flavor did you go with?

[superhuman67]

Dark Energy Update: Took a half scoop, turned on Ride the Lightning. I can't remember the last time I've felt this awake. Definitely flips the switch.

Did my accessory work first (stir-the-pot, reverse hypers, pullups) and then finished with my strict overhead pressing. 200x3 moved smoothly after the foundation volume of the 5/3/1 Spinal Tap layout.

I'm very stim tolerant, but will be very judicious about using this one (especially at more than a half-scoop).

Smart man to start with 1/2 serving and since you said it worked well at that dose might as well continue
at that dose and slowly add more IF you need it.

[Joe D]

It seems like every single supplement company is doing the same thing with their cookie cutter supplement lines, pre, protein, bcaa’s and test booster. There isn’t anymore innovation with companies coming out with anything new.

[82ndAirborne]

It seems like every single supplement company is doing the same thing with their cookie cutter supplement lines, pre, protein, bcaa’s and test booster. There isn’t anymore innovation with companies coming out with anything new.

I would suggest looking at CORE (+ Merica labs), SNS, Morphogen, and Evomuse. These companies are always innovating, and or perfecting products. I would say these companies have their consumers' best interests at the forefront.

[eatyourspinach]

It seems like every single supplement company is doing the same thing with their cookie cutter supplement lines, pre, protein, bcaa’s and test booster. There isn’t anymore innovation with companies coming out with anything new.

getting an approved NDI isn't easy https://www.nutritionaloutlook.com/v...w-proceed-2020

[Farley1324]

It seems like every single supplement company is doing the same thing with their cookie cutter supplement lines, pre, protein, bcaa’s and test booster. There isn’t anymore innovation with companies coming out with anything new.

It's a little more difficult to take random largely unknown substances and just throw them at the wall to see what sticks

Also, don't buy bcaa it's a waste of money so no issue there. And protein? What kind of 'new' are you looking for, it's protein

[nkiritsis13]

Have you tried PES PB Cup?

You know, Ithe last time that I ever had PES peanut butter cup was so long ago that it doesn't even really count, so it's up there with ones I have to keep a lookout for. More recently, I have to hand it to them on both their cake pop and peanut butter cookie flavors.

After the disappointment that was the Isomix, I had to lay it out there that it is simply not worth the asking price, and PES is a great one to bring up because it's only $31.99 where I bought the Astroflav, and it would have been even less with a discount code. I always hear positive reviews on their proteins, and I've even been tempted to try their Thinmints iteration, which is saying a lot from someone like me who is really picky about mint.


PES, Dymatize, Nutrabio, Inspired, VMI, also just recently the Ryse chocolate peanut butter cup, Ghost (only peanut butter cereal), and of course the Black Magic Supply chocolate PB puffs can all be acquired for a more reasonable price.

Even if we lower the bar a bit and compare plain and simple chocolate peanut butter flavors, that Ryse absolutely obliterates the Astroflav, no question. Ryse's chocolate peanut butter cup manages to even smell smooth; it's brilliant.

Have you tried the other Black Magic Supply flavors? I'm tempted by the devil's cake, horchata, and milk chocolate. They offer samples but with shipping it would cost me close to 18 bucks for the 3 pack of random sample flavors.

Of those three, I have only tried the Devil's Cake but it really is fantastic. It took me a bit to nail it down, but it really is a red velvet of flavor where you taste this cream cheese frosting note alongside the chocolate cake base. I wound up buying a second tub on a discount because of the limited edition aspect, but I wouldn't even be mad if they kept it along permanently.

Although I already find myself drawn to more out there flavors, this is still a really safe flavor to go with because it has enough nuances to please about anybody without being too niche.

Other than that and the PB puffs, I've also tried the Blueberry Muffin, which really impressed me because they basically nailed a true blueberry muffin with a fluffy, not-too-sweet base and the right touch of blueberry that doesn't overwhelm it.

What is consistent across all of them is that Black Magic has mastered incredible consistency with the protein blends, and they hit the subtleties in flavor profiles that make what they taste (and even smell) like match what's on the label.

Horchata has me curious as I've never had it in any form, but I haven't heard any reviews on how that flavor specifically tastes, and my only concern is if there's any almond flavor because I sometimes have issues with that particular taste.

[Joe D]

It's a little more difficult to take random largely unknown substances and just throw them at the wall to see what sticks

Also, don't buy bcaa it's a waste of money so no issue there. And protein? What kind of 'new' are you looking for, it's protein

i mean in the sense that companies tried to bring different stuff out, like muscle tech tried with clear muscle, phosphatic acid.

[Farley1324]

i mean in the sense that companies tried to bring different stuff out, like muscle tech tried with clear muscle, phosphatic acid.

That's a great example of stuff we don't want

[Joe D]

That's a great example of stuff we don't want

Yes and I said tried. Companies don’t even bother anymore.

[Iluvmud]

My dark energy tub today came with a sample of Panda protein???? Anyone ever heard of it??

[PISINxONxDATDER]

Tried dvst8 a couple of times didn't enjoy it.

Took Dark energy for the first time today its like the old school dmaa pre's 10/10.

[superhuman67]

Tried dvst8 a couple of times didn't enjoy it.

Took Dark energy for the first time today its like the old school dmaa pre's 10/10.

Which DVST8 did you take DVST8 or DVST8 State of Union because they are both completely different
formulas? and for Dark Energy wait a few days and try again cause I've seen a bunch of feedback where
people have said it hit GREAT the first time and then it never hit the same after they tried it again.

[superhuman67]

My dark energy tub today came with a sample of Panda protein???? Anyone ever heard of it??

Is it Panda Supps Fuel cause this is a review on one of their flavors.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zG4yRZS_PEw

[PISINxONxDATDER]

Which DVST8 did you take DVST8 or DVST8 State of Union because they are both completely different
formulas? and for Dark Energy wait a few days and try again cause I've seen a bunch of feedback where
people have said it hit GREAT the first time and then it never hit the same after they tried it again.

state of union, lsd flavor.

prob gonna try it a few more times.

[UncleWade]

Hell to the Yeah

Good stuff! What flavor did you go with?

I went with Mystery Research. I'm using way more water than they'd probably recommend (if it was for human consumption), but still tastes pretty good.

Like:

Smart man to start with 1/2 serving and since you said it worked well at that dose might as well continue
at that dose and slowly add more IF you need it.

It will be a dark day when I need more than what half a scoop has delivered.

[dougefresh93]

It seems like every single supplement company is doing the same thing with their cookie cutter supplement lines, pre, protein, bcaa’s and test booster. There isn’t anymore innovation with companies coming out with anything new.

Glaxon does some good work, imo

[sloop]

I went with Mystery Research. I'm using way more water than they'd probably recommend (if it was for human consumption), but still tastes pretty good.

Nice, I only have the orange and it's pretty good too.

[UncleWade]

Nice, I only have the orange and it's pretty good too.

Can't tell if the stim hangover is what's making me depressed, or the Browns and Buckeyes games.

[Farley1324]

lol, druggy problems

[Iluvmud]

Is it Panda Supps Fuel cause this is a review on one of their flavors.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zG4yRZS_PEw

That be the one.... will be trying the sample sometime this week. I'll post on this flavor when I do.

[superhuman67]

Glaxon does some good work, imo

They're marketing and packaging is innovative and I've already seen a co. trying to mimic they're
marketing so I guess they accomplished what they wanted which was to stand out from other
companies.

[Anthony21]

Which DVST8 did you take DVST8 or DVST8 State of Union because they are both completely different
formulas? and for Dark Energy wait a few days and try again cause I've seen a bunch of feedback where
people have said it hit GREAT the first time and then it never hit the same after they tried it again.

Sounds just like what drug addicts explain in terms of "chasing the dragon".

[sloop]

I heard the appetite suppression on this is crazy

Time to party.

[tiwariz]

hhi everyone

[Farley1324]

Hi, Dr Nick

[gwgtopshelf]

the new core fury is hands down the best overall pre I've used

[superhuman67]

the new core fury is hands down the best overall pre I've used

Core put's out good stuff as well as their other brand Mericalabz which has A Bomb as their newest
PW and they have a thermo/Pre dropping called Red White Boom Napalm which should get you heated
while you train.

[TMac26]

Remember when sally's used to hit the ****ing bricks

[Farley1324]

What's the word on greens supplements these days?

BTW, I tried the search function, just for poops and grins knowing it would be bad and give me like 2006 threads...nope...literally "greens" searching the whole supp section returns 0 results

lol ok

Bonus points for pills/capsules!