2020 Part 6: preworkouts & forums

[Farley1324]

What facts are wrong?

We'll start with the most glaringly obvious, influenza viruses and corona viruses are different. They are not the same. sars-cov-2 is a corona virus, not an influenza.

[faipdeooiad]

It's fuk'n ridiculous, we can all congregate at a grocery store, touch the products on shelves and transfer money back and forth but we cant touch a piece of gym equipment

We had an arrest last week that brought us to the ER, I asked the Doc his opinion on the virus. He said the virus is real, but not me or any of my staff members have been infected, and hundreds of cases have passed through these doors

Well you aren’t breathing heavily in a supermarket, with excess bodily fluids all over the place are you? Your gym and your local supermarket are hardly the same sort of environment. A big issue in re-opening fitness facilities is going to be communal shower facilities & changing rooms.

I don’t know if you’re trying to make a point with your 2nd paragraph but it’s even less relevant than your supermarket example of you are.

[Farley1324]

Well you aren’t breathing heavily in a gym, with excess bodily fluids all over the place are you? Your gym and your local supermarket are hardly the same sort of environment. A big issue in re-opening fitness facilities is going to be communal shower facilities & changing rooms.

I don’t know if you’re trying to make a point with your 2nd paragraph but it’s even less relevant than your supermarket example of you are.

This pandemic has taught me that many people are even less capable of logical thought and deductive reasoning than I previously believed

[DASBUNKER]

Ran out of citrulline but found a place to get citrulline malate 2:1 just in time, gotta say I think it works more like 1:1.. miss my pure citrulline, pump and endurance isn't as good with this cm, malic acid taste is strong. Can't wait to get a decent pre again.

[Fiz-iks]

What's the consensus go-to pre-workout these days? I have been using the BB signature series for the past year or so, which I really like (value is really good), but potentially interested in trying something else with the pre-workout sales today.

[TheFugitive]

We'll start with the most glaringly obvious, influenza viruses and corona viruses are different. They are not the same. sars-cov-2 is a corona virus, not an influenza.

You're missing the point and thinking like the media has told you to do is not logical. The current unemployment rate is what's concerning and will lead to far greater problems than this virus

[Farley1324]

You're missing the point and thinking like the media has told you to do is not logical.

The point is that I can't take a person's opinion seriously when they are clearly ignorant to the most basic of relevant facts.

PS: I don't watch the media so you'll have to construct some other baseless straw man

[eatyourspinach]

What's the consensus go-to pre-workout these days? I have been using the BB signature series for the past year or so, which I really like (value is really good), but potentially interested in trying something else with the pre-workout sales today.

White Warped is great for less than $1 per serving right now

[dougefresh93]

These guys own the canned energy market when it comes to flavor and profile



Watermelon Frost is outstanding!

C4 smart energy murders them, i have never been impressed with Raze's flavors.

[TheFugitive]

C4 smart energy murders them, i have never been impressed with Raze's flavors.

Try their watermelon frost, it's outstanding

[taydbear7]

C4 smart energy murders them, i have never been impressed with Raze's flavors.

Raze has some good flavors. Raze Galaxy Burst is really good. It seems like my favorite flavor is hard to find. I can't find Bang's Champagne, Reign's Carnival Candy, and Raze Mango.

[superhuman67]

I've been hit with Golfers elbow in my right arm and I stopped training about 2 weeks ago and I've been
doing nothing but PT moves to try to heal it for the past 2 weeks and these are the supps that I take
regularly to keep the tendons and joints moving fluidly is there some kind of magic concoction or addition
to this list of supps that someone has had great results with for Golfers elbow ? Thanks in advance
Cissus XT
Glucosamine,Chondroitin,MSM
Fish Oil
Microlactin
Tart Cherry
Tumeric & Black Pepper

[TheFugitive]

I've been hit with Golfers elbow in my right arm and I stopped training about 2 weeks ago and I've been
doing nothing but PT moves to try to heal it for the past 2 weeks and these are the supps that I take
regularly to keep the tendons and joints moving fluidly is there some kind of magic concoction or addition
to this list of supps that someone has had great results with for Golfers elbow ? Thanks in advance
Cissus XT
Glucosamine,Chondroitin,MSM
Fish Oil
Microlactin
Tart Cherry
Tumeric & Black Pepper

Tart Cherry might provide some relief

[eatyourspinach]

I've been hit with Golfers elbow in my right arm and I stopped training about 2 weeks ago and I've been
doing nothing but PT moves to try to heal it for the past 2 weeks and these are the supps that I take
regularly to keep the tendons and joints moving fluidly is there some kind of magic concoction or addition
to this list of supps that someone has had great results with for Golfers elbow ? Thanks in advance
Cissus XT
Glucosamine,Chondroitin,MSM
Fish Oil
Microlactin
Tart Cherry
Tumeric & Black Pepper

Black seed oil + curcumin with a better delivery system i.e BCM 95, Meriva, Longvida (worked best for me)

[82ndAirborne]

I've been hit with Golfers elbow in my right arm and I stopped training about 2 weeks ago and I've been
doing nothing but PT moves to try to heal it for the past 2 weeks and these are the supps that I take
regularly to keep the tendons and joints moving fluidly is there some kind of magic concoction or addition
to this list of supps that someone has had great results with for Golfers elbow ? Thanks in advance
Cissus XT
Glucosamine,Chondroitin,MSM
Fish Oil
Microlactin
Tart Cherry
Tumeric & Black Pepper

Celadrin
Solgar No 7
DMSO

[superhuman67]

Black seed oil + curcumin with a better delivery system i.e BCM 95, Meriva, Longvida (worked best for me)

Never tried Black Seed Oil and is it the same as Black Current also any particular brand cause I've
seen a big difference in $ for the caps and is 1000mg a day the right dose?

[superhuman67]

Celadrin
Solgar No 7
DMSO

I always like to rotate my joint products around since I use many different ones but I haven't used
Celadrin in a while so thanks for reminding me about that one.

[Jeff the Repper]

I always like to rotate my joint products around since I use many different ones but I haven't used
Celadrin in a while so thanks for reminding me about that one.

same here Celadrin topical works quite well.

on another note, anybody using a GDA?

[eatyourspinach]

Never tried Black Seed Oil and is it the same as Black Current also any particular brand cause I've
seen a big difference in $ for the caps and is 1000mg a day the right dose?

no, black seed oil is nigella sativa, it depends on the thymoquinone content

[dougefresh93]

I've been hit with Golfers elbow in my right arm and I stopped training about 2 weeks ago and I've been
doing nothing but PT moves to try to heal it for the past 2 weeks and these are the supps that I take
regularly to keep the tendons and joints moving fluidly is there some kind of magic concoction or addition
to this list of supps that someone has had great results with for Golfers elbow ? Thanks in advance
Cissus XT
Glucosamine,Chondroitin,MSM
Fish Oil
Microlactin
Tart Cherry
Tumeric & Black Pepper

Braco Tennis/Golfer's Elbow Strap.

[Iluvmud]

MERRY Xmas all!!

not sure why i come on and see my Avi has been changed.....


oh well

[TheFugitive]

MERRY Xmas all!!

not sure why i come on and see my Avi has been changed.....


oh well

Merry Christmas!

[LoudyRowdy]

Fug...your thoughts on this whole Gerald Floyd incident?

I'm going to guess the whole country will riot if those officers are not charged at least 2nd degree murder. The last video I've seen in which police were OBVIOUSLY in the wrong was Rodney King but yeah....we all know what happened after that

[Farley1324]

The last video I've seen in which police were OBVIOUSLY in the wrong was Rodney King but yeah....we all know what happened after that

Never heard of Daniel Shaver?

[82ndAirborne]

same here Celadrin topical works quite well.

on another note, anybody using a GDA?

yes to GDA

[BenBlue]

Fug...your thoughts on this whole Gerald Floyd incident?

I'm going to guess the whole country will riot if those officers are not charged at least 2nd degree murder. The last video I've seen in which police were OBVIOUSLY in the wrong was Rodney King but yeah....we all know what happened after that

this one looks really bad on the part of the officers...

Also interested in Fugs take.

[Jeff the Repper]

yes to GDA

whatcha using?

[gbullock32]

Fug...your thoughts on this whole Gerald Floyd incident?

I'm going to guess the whole country will riot if those officers are not charged at least 2nd degree murder. The last video I've seen in which police were OBVIOUSLY in the wrong was Rodney King but yeah....we all know what happened after that

Murder is harder to prove, you need intent; given they did not move or make any attempt to get off him you could build an argument for intent based on that, but it would likely not hold up. Manslaughter would be a better charge, but they always charge with the highest crime since you can always lower it later, but you cannot go with a more serious charge later if you go low. Possibly negligent homicide too, forgot which was more severe punishment wise, pretty sure it was manslaughter.

Not sure on most PDs, but CDCR considers any neck shots "red zones" which require the same justification as deadly force to use. Chock holds, ect are completely off limits simply as a means of control. If I go for the neck it's either an accident (erratic movement while fighting) or I have justification for deadly force.

[Farley1324]

Murder is harder to prove, you need intent; given they did not move or make any attempt to get off him you could build an argument for intent based on that, but it would likely not hold up. Manslaughter would be a better charge, but they always charge with the highest crime since you can always lower it later, but you cannot go with a more serious charge later if you go low. Possibly negligent homicide too, forgot which was more severe punishment wise, pretty sure it was manslaughter.

Not sure on most PDs, but CDCR considers any neck shots "red zones" which require the same justification as deadly force to use. Chock holds, ect are completely off limits simply as a means of control. If I go for the neck it's either an accident (erratic movement while fighting) or I have justification for deadly force.

https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/cite/609.195

2019 Minnesota Statutes

609.195 MURDER IN THE THIRD DEGREE.
(a) Whoever, without intent to effect the death of any person, causes the death of another by perpetrating an act eminently dangerous to others and evincing a depraved mind, without regard for human life, is guilty of murder in the third degree and may be sentenced to imprisonment for not more than 25 years.

[gbullock32]

https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/cite/609.195

2019 Minnesota Statutes

609.195 MURDER IN THE THIRD DEGREE.
(a) Whoever, without intent to effect the death of any person, causes the death of another by perpetrating an act eminently dangerous to others and evincing a depraved mind, without regard for human life, is guilty of murder in the third degree and may be sentenced to imprisonment for not more than 25 years.

Hmm interesting, never seen (not that I did much research) a murder charge with no intent.