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    Originally Posted by JUGGERNAUT1333 View Post
    I think this is a reality, but enforcing it could be hard. Lots of smaller cities only have 2-5 cops. A lot of this will rely on the citizens actually listening, which I have a lot of doubt in.
    They're not going to let the local police do that on their own. New Rochelle already supplementing with National Guard to make sure it's actually enforced and to hose things down with disinfectant and make sure oldcels get food.
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    Italy 2,547 infected and 250 dead since yesterday

    175 recovered
    yea its a good number. if they continued yesterday's trend we would see almost 3200 new cases.

    based on hubei they coulda easily did 100k cases all said and done. they may wind up under half that.
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    Originally Posted by JUGGERNAUT1333 View Post
    Myself and a few others hold this belief as well. We aren't suddenly getting 200+ new infections a day....we're just discovering the existing ones. With how fast blew up in Wuhan, it had to be circulating since late November/early December. That is roughly 1.5 months of travel in and out of there all over the globe without people taking the extra caution they are now.
    They've identified patient zero. There were no Wuhan virus infections anywhere in the world prior to November 17th. There's a pretty good paper trail that it didn't arrive in the US until January 15th.

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    Originally Posted by 2020Wellness View Post
    Exactly, people aren't going to listen. They'll 'need' to go out to the store for something they 'need.'
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    Originally Posted by ANumber1 View Post
    They're not going to let the local police do that on their own. New Rochelle already supplementing with National Guard to make sure it's actually enforced and to hose things down with disinfectant and make sure oldcels get food.
    Legitimate question, but does the National Guard have the numbers to do this? I imagine big cities do, but what about rural areas?
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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    Our neighbors are going to the bar today for "one hast hurrah"

    That's exactly what I'm talking about. So many people are to entitled, so any national protocol isn't going to be followed. Again, they 'need' to go the bar.
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    Originally Posted by JUGGERNAUT1333 View Post
    Legitimate question, but does the National Guard have the numbers to do this? I imagine big cities do, but what about rural areas?
    Figure there's 500k, plus 200k reservists. I assume a large number of veterans and retired police/firefighters would volunteer to be mobilized in a crunch, too. New York is already calling up retired nurses and doctors.

    I also doubt they'd let most patrol their own hometowns. Invites too many cases of letting Tommy open his hardware store for a few hours because he went to high school with the sergeant.
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    Originally Posted by JUGGERNAUT1333 View Post
    Legitimate question, but does the National Guard have the numbers to do this? I imagine big cities do, but what about rural areas?


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    Originally Posted by waytoodeep03 View Post
    Trump speaking at 3pm


    The shutdown is coming folks.

    This is not a conspiracy post either.

    I posted late last night my wife was sent an email ( works with the pentagon) they are considering shutting down the country excluding non essential personnel ( military, defense, police, medical etc) for two weeks
    We still gonna have electricity and internet and all that?
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    If this thing is mostly contained in China, a place that has a way bigger population and chittier conditions, why is it going to be so bad here?

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    Originally Posted by Brandon556211 View Post
    We still gonna have electricity and internet and all that?
    Yeah, but in all seriousness, if you have some specialty food that you like, you should probably go buy it. I'm guessing they'll make sure there's rice and bread and milk, but things like chorizo might end up hit and miss if they start shutting down factories.

    I'm looking at my stash of Aero bars and know it ain't gonna cut it.

    Originally Posted by RubberBandMang View Post
    If this thing is mostly contained in China, a place that has a way bigger population and chittier conditions, why is it going to be so bad here?
    I mean, you understand what China had to do to stop it, right?
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    Trump made the statement from the oval office about payroll loans for small businesses, but he has not declarated a disaster yet, so the SBA cannot give out any loans for payroll.

    I checked in NY and Washington (heavily hit areas) and they are also not declared a disaster yet.

    This is from my business email. I have substantial payroll.

    When the declaration is made (supposed to happen today), this is the process for applying. https://disasterloan.sba.gov/ela/Doc...ster_Loans.pdf

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    If this thing is mostly contained in China, a place that has a way bigger population and chittier conditions, why is it going to be so bad here?
    Because Americans are idiots and feel like we are entitled. Look at all the dumb fuks just on here acting like it's nothing. They won't do anything until a family member or someone they know dies.
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    I mean, you understand what China had to do to stop it, right?
    Not really, complete quarantine + mass building hospitals?

    I feel that the US should be more capable than China with regards to quarantine, not producing more hospitals

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    If this thing is mostly contained in China, a place that has a way bigger population and chittier conditions, why is it going to be so bad here?
    For starters, let's ask this...how much faith and trust do you have in the official CCP numbers?

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    Not really, complete quarantine + mass building hospitals?

    I feel that the US should be more capable than China with regards to quarantine, not producing more hospitals
    In reality it isn't America that's the issue, it's the hordes of people who DGAF about this, and will go out and neglect any lockdown or quarantine.
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    Originally Posted by metroins View Post
    Trump made the statement from the oval office about payroll loans for small businesses, but he has not declarated a disaster yet, so the SBA cannot give out any loans for payroll.

    I checked in NY and Washington (heavily hit areas) and they are also not declared a disaster yet.

    This is from my business email.


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    Originally Posted by RubberBandMang View Post
    If this thing is mostly contained in China, a place that has a way bigger population and chittier conditions, why is it going to be so bad here?
    1) China has a way different culture than the US (collectivism over individualism)
    2) China put their entire country on lockdown.

    Just read this thread alone and you'll get an idea of what would to happen if you were to propose a lockdown in the US.. people would still go out for something they "need" (they don't). And most people are selfish, so as long as this virus doesn't effect them or anyone they know, they will live their lives in such a way that nothing is wrong.

    Of course, when it hits them personally, they'll go spam Instagram with the desire to social distance and what not (of course ignoring the nights before where they were out partying or doing god knows what else) to gather social sympathy and likes.
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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    For starters, let's ask this...how much faith and trust do you have in the official CCP numbers?



    That's the funniest damn thing I've heard all week!
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    In reality it isn't America that's the issue, it's the hordes of people who DGAF about this, and will go out and neglect any lockdown or quarantine.
    Originally Posted by XFactor416 View Post
    1) China has a way different culture than the US (collectivism over individualism)
    2) China put their entire country on lockdown.

    Just read this thread alone and you'll get an idea of what would to happen if you were to propose a lockdown in the US.. people would still go out for something they "need" (pro tip -- they don't). And most people are selfish, so as long as this virus doesn't effect them or anyone they know, they will live their lives in such a way that nothing is wrong.

    Of course, when it hits them personally, they'll go spam Instagram with the desire to social distance and what not (of course ignoring the nights before where they were out partying or doing god knows what else) to gather social sympathy and likes.
    I just imagine china as a massively overpopulated zone that couldn't entirely quarantine even if they desperately wanted to. Also in times of panic , which i'm sure occured in China, i feel like alot of the collectivism goes out the window and people do whatever the fuk they want.

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    If this thing is mostly contained in China, a place that has a way bigger population and chittier conditions, why is it going to be so bad here?
    Another angle: Why is it so bad in Italy, who has a way smaller population, and at least as good healthcare?
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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    Another angle: Why is it so bad in Italy, who has a way smaller population, and at least as good healthcare?
    uh they have way more old people and they are fatter and they have a higher population density farley.


    any more brain busters? if you correct for all that chit the italian numbers track with the chinese numbers.
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    Originally Posted by RubberBandMang View Post
    I just imagine china as a massively overpopulated zone that couldn't entirely quarantine even if they desperately wanted to. Also in times of panic , which i'm sure occured in China, i feel like alot of the collectivism goes out the window and people do whatever the fuk they want.
    China can quickly corral their people. Government influence is strong as **** and they also used the military to bar people in their homes.

    The mere thought of quarantining the US without strong military intervention OR significant fines (like what they have in Italy now) isn't gonna happen. People have zero self-discipline and will not learn unless this thing hits them personally in some fashion.

    You don't have to resort to massive quarantine, but you HAVE to test rigorously ala South Korea (+ SK has a culture of mask wearing) and the US isn't doing either. What you see in Italy right now is what's going to happen to the US and it's gonna happen FAST (give it one week maximum if they actually test people for real).
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    Originally Posted by RubberBandMang View Post
    I just imagine china as a massively overpopulated zone that couldn't entirely quarantine even if they desperately wanted to. Also in times of panic , which i'm sure occured in China, i feel like alot of the collectivism goes out the window and people do whatever the fuk they want.
    Much of China is rural.

    They can quarantine because they aren't selfish douchebag pricks AND they have a literal communist regime governing them that will do whatever they want including "weld the doors shut" quarantine measures for cities and "nope you aren't traveling turn around"
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    Originally Posted by AltarOfPlagues View Post
    uh they have way more old people and they are fatter and they have a higher population density farley.


    any more brain busters? if you correct for all that chit the italian numbers track with the chinese numbers.
    Finally a country fatter than the US. Everything's gonna be alright

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    Local schools closed for 5 days..... wtf at 5 days...

    I guess they are going to do in in week intervals with the hopes something improves. PA currently @ 6 confirmed, 27 suspected (pending CDC validation). Barely tested anyone though.
    YEah it's going to be at least 2 weeks because our current best estimates at timetable say that even if it's flatlining a week from now, that doesn't mean it isn't about to spike
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    Originally Posted by RubberBandMang View Post
    Not really, complete quarantine + mass building hospitals?

    I feel that the US should be more capable than China with regards to quarantine, not producing more hospitals
    The issue is that no matter how "capable" we are, the economic disruption is going to be severe.

    I'm 200 miles from New Rochelle and non-perishable groceries are already getting difficult. I have no idea what's going to happen if they start closing highways and shutting down manufacturing operations relevant to that supply chain.

    At the extreme end, Chinese chicken farmers couldn't get chicken feed, so had to slaughter their flocks, so flooded the market with chicken, which crashed the price of chicken and destroyed the chicken farmers. Chit like that. It's not like it's NBD to start turning out the lights on entire markets and sectors of the economy.
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