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    Originally Posted by 2RDEYE View Post
    not every american feels that way. just like not every canadian feels that way. i have scottish canadian friends, they say they are scottish not canadian for example. they could give a rat's ass about canada, but if u offend scotland or scottish people then they'll defend it. i'm sure that many italian americans, still feel that italians are their people.



    china is not the only country infected right now. i guess u should ban travel to and from the rest of the world.
    I don't care how you "feel" about it, if they are serving in the United States armed forces, they are American.

    And I don't care if people of chinese ancestry want to defend the ****ing bull**** that is the chinese government. You shouldn't either
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    Originally Posted by MEDITATE View Post
    whats to not understand?
    Seems like either their fatality rate is extraordinarily high or they aren't diagnosing most cases. Assuming 1% fatality rate, 20 days between infection and death, and 20%/day growth, they might have 2.2M infected already. Something is off. Germany has 260 deaths and 43.5k cases. A factor of 9 difference.
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    Originally Posted by io31 View Post
    Seems like either their fatality rate is extraordinarily high or they aren't diagnosing most cases. Assuming 1% fatality rate, 20 days between infection and death, and 20%/day growth, they might have 2.2M infected already. Something is off. Germany has 260 deaths and 43.5k cases. A factor of 9 difference.

    they are reporting every single case ,nothing strange or extraordinary , some countries are presenting a higher dr vs infecties .... its just the destruction rate is more deviated from the narrow bell curve every one been talking about.


    people still think they can predict what this virus can do .... they cant , no one can... pretty sure in the next week or two we will be seeing numbers that we havent seen before
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    Originally Posted by 2RDEYE View Post



    china is not the only country infected right now. i guess u should ban travel to and from the rest of the world.
    China is the only country with lack of transparency and that is actively lying to cover up their fuk ups.
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    Originally Posted by leoslayer1 View Post
    He's 59 and has high blood pressure, he was a gonner anyway

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    Almost got into a physical altercation with a 'FLu bRo' today at the grocery store
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    Originally Posted by iabs View Post
    China is the only country with lack of transparency and that is actively lying to cover up their fuk ups.
    forgot to mention syria and iran
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    2/4 -This is not the case. Indeed, if anything, our latest estimates suggest that the virus is slightly more transmissible than we previously thought. Our lethality estimates remain unchanged.

    3/4 - My evidence to Parliament referred to the deaths we assess might occur in the UK in the presence of the very intensive social distancing and other public health interventions now in place.

    4/4 - Without those controls, our assessment remains that the UK would see the scale of deaths reported in our study (namely, up to approximately 500 thousand).
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    does anyone have that graphic comparing corona virus to other various illnesses? Tuberculosis , dengae, flu, swine etc etc. Need to prove someone wrong.
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    you should seek professional mental help.
    ...Coming from a guy who thinks coronavirus is "just a flu".

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    So what is going to happen to this max influx of ventilators after this is over with?
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    https://twitter.com/neil_ferguson/st...94815200124928

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    curiois, when do you think NY started social distancing?
    IMO, NY didn’t take it seriously early enough

    3/2 and we have Diblasio telling NYers to go out and not worry about the virus
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    So what is going to happen to this max influx of ventilators after this is over with?
    The ones that belong to the US government will be sent back to the stockpile. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strate...onal_Stockpile


    The ones being privately bought by hospitals will be put in their storage, usually in the basement or a certain floor or wing designated for storage, or in a separate climate controlled warehouse for those who have them.

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    Originally Posted by 5x10 View Post
    curiois, when do you think NY started social distancing?
    IMO, NY didn’t take it seriously early enough

    3/2 and we have Diblasio telling NYers to go out and not worry about the virus
    I don't think anything with teeth was enacted till like 3/20 honestly. Thats when Executive Order 102 came out that really started to clamp down. If I had to guess I would hazard a very uninformed wild ass guess that maybe 20-30% of residents had already been voluntarily social distancing from mid March, ramping up to where we are now. Even now I believe there are still plenty of folks trying to skirt the rules. It's a culture thing, you can see it here on the misc. We are just not cohesively taking this seriously as a culture for any number of reasons. Sad, but true.
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    I don't care how you "feel" about it, if they are serving in the United States armed forces, they are American.

    And I don't care if people of chinese ancestry want to defend the ****ing bull**** that is the chinese government. You shouldn't either
    and that's just how you feel about it too. if everyone felt that way asian americans wouldn't be getting harassed, shamed, or attacked on the streets.

    i'm not defending the chinese government, i could give two ****s about the chinese government. i'm defending chinese people in general, i'm not even chinese for the record. but regarding the chinese only ban post that would just make things worse for asian americans and makes no sense to ban travel to and from only china when the virus has spread to so many other countries.
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    does anyone have that graphic comparing corona virus to other various illnesses? Tuberculosis , dengae, flu, swine etc etc. Need to prove someone wrong.
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    He's 59 and has high blood pressure, he was a gonner anyway

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    and that's just how you feel about it too. if everyone felt that way asian americans wouldn't be getting harassed, shamed, or attacked on the streets.

    i'm not defending the chinese government, i could give two ****s about the chinese government. i'm defending chinese people in general, i'm not even chinese for the record. but regarding the chinese only ban post that would just make things worse for asian americans and makes no sense to ban travel to and from only china when the virus has spread to so many other countries.
    Nobody here is ****ing talking about Americans in America
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    das not it manes. a refrigerated truck to store bodies...

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    Nobody here is ****ing talking about Americans in America
    Okay 1) As much as I dislike the idea of a THIRD (30th?) thread for this topic, we really should get into a chat thread and let this thread be for posting actual content and updates.

    2) There has certainly been harassment of Asian Americans in NYC and around the country, and I'm sure its the same in Canada. He made a poorly phrased example trying to point out that genetics/ethnicity do not make you part of the CCP.

    3) On the flip side, China should be held accountable for this, and it will unfortunately affect Chinese citizens who may not be directly responsible in any way.

    I'm not going to respond to this topic in this thread again, perhaps we should jump into the speculation thread or start a COVID-19 Chat thread.
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    Originally Posted by Witrebel View Post
    I don't think anything with teeth was enacted till like 3/20 honestly. Thats when Executive Order 102 came out that really started to clamp down. If I had to guess I would hazard a very uninformed wild ass guess that maybe 20-30% of residents had already been voluntarily social distancing from mid March, ramping up to where we are now. Even now I believe there are still plenty of folks trying to skirt the rules. It's a culture thing, you can see it here on the misc. We are just not cohesively taking this seriously as a culture for any number of reasons. Sad, but true.
    I agree with you, wasn’t taken seriously until the last week or so

    So if you take the fact that limited action was taken, and run it through the following modeling tool, it expects 7.7k hospitalizations by 3/27

    https://covidactnow.org/state/NY


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    I agree with you, wasn’t taken seriously until the last week or so
    All sports and most schools were cancelled a full 2 weeks ago

    Our current numbers, in the US, right now, infected, hospitalized, and even deaths, are lower, right now, as a result of the steps that were taken, that took it seriously, two weeks ago
    We will never know if we overreacted and did too much. We most certainly will know if we did too little.
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    Originally Posted by 5x10 View Post
    I agree with you, wasn’t taken seriously until the last week or so

    So if you take the fact that limited action was taken, and run it through the following modeling tool, it expects 7.7k hospitalizations by 3/27

    https://covidactnow.org/state/NY


    Anyone know how many total hospitalizations there are in ny today?
    https://covidtracking.com/data/state/new-york/
    Great tracking tool, includes testing, autoscrapes from .gov state websites.

    As of 5pm
    Date Screenshot: 26 Mar 2020 Thu

    Positive: 37,258
    Negative: 84,846
    Pending: 0
    Hospitalized: 6,844
    Deaths: 385
    Total Test Results: 122,104
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    Originally Posted by Witrebel View Post
    https://covidtracking.com/data/state/new-york/
    Great tracking tool, includes testing, autoscrapes from .gov state websites.

    As of 5pm
    Date Screenshot Positive Negative Pending Hospitalized Deaths Total test results
    26 Mar 2020 Thu 37,258 84,846 0 6,844 385 122,104
    thanks
    We may be on track the model, it has ny with 18k by 3/31


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    Originally Posted by LukeLissen View Post
    The ones that belong to the US government will be sent back to the stockpile. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strate...onal_Stockpile


    The ones being privately bought by hospitals will be put in their storage, usually in the basement or a certain floor or wing designated for storage, or in a separate climate controlled warehouse for those who have them.

    For example, Wake Med's warehouse - https://www.wral.com/wakemed-warehou...reak/18995175/
    Do the private companys have infinite storage for 10s of thousands of ventilators for an indefinite time in their budget? Surely you see the problem here right?
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    Originally Posted by chalup View Post
    Do the private companys have infinite storage for 10s of thousands of ventilators for an indefinite time in their budget? Surely you see the problem here right?
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    how accurate is this site?

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/


    just a page refresh and USA cases for day jump by 100+

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