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    Well when it first started I just didn't want to believe it period, hoping that the numbers would magically stop going up out of nowhere and i'd continue life as normal. Add on the fact my bosses from both jobs were saying the media is blowing this up and it isn't THAT big a deal and voila, that was my attitude. Also was thinking this would go away with the warmer weather like the flu, when in reality there is zero proof of that and it isn't going anywhere for a long, long time. It's super depressing to be honest man. I was making almost 1300 a week between both my jobs, and that's kickass money for where I live. I doubt i'll ever make that again in a restaurant.

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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    Speaking of the Spanish flu, I understand that it really started in March, faded a bit over the summer and came back worse the next winter. Even the fast hopes don't have a vaccine out by next season. If it does seasonal.

    Unfortunately there is a good argument to be made for how and why these zoonosis events are becoming more common and the trend will continue/worsen. And overall our ability to travel and transport viruses is only getting better as is our population density and close quarters living
    Yeah, the second wave was the big hitter with Spanish Flu. Mutated version spread by infected WWI soldiers, apparently?

    https://www.history.com/news/spanish...ave-resurgence
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    Originally Posted by WoofieNugget View Post
    Hate to say it but gym industry as well. At least not in its' current form. Nobody is going to want to be packed into a space with a hundred other people all breathing hard for a very long time. Group exercise is probably done. Most workouts will be online and done at home for safety. Lots of home gym conversions.

    As a personal trainer I'm anticipating that most clients are going to move online and have to pivot my entire business model.

    Restaurants, if they reopen will have to have far less tables. I have been in places where you're literally sitting right next to people at another table and that just isn't going to happen anymore.
    disagreed

    remember...America forgets and moves on quickly from things.

    I give it around a 2-3 month grace period after the day lockdowns are lifted where people will be cautious and wear masks and gloves still. after that, people will move on, plan vacations until a next wave potentially hits.

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    Gov Cuomo accepting 1000 ventilators from China.. Why? Why do this?
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    Originally Posted by chalup View Post
    Gov Cuomo accepting 1000 ventilators from China.. Why? Why do this?

    for sure it has nothing to do with people's health... if anything .... future elections... votes... you know all about politics brah .... nothing that comes from that communist sh!t hole called china is good
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    Originally Posted by chalup View Post
    Gov Cuomo accepting 1000 ventilators from China.. Why? Why do this?
    What is the alternative, let people die instead?

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    What is the alternative, let people die instead?
    China has already sent out faulty equipment and they are making a power play to try and show the world they are the #1 Country in the world now. I have no idea what the alternative is but this isn't good.
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    China probably has their very best equipment 3+ deep for the top CCP officials, the second best or rest of the best getting shipped overseas as a flex, and whatever is leftover (at best) for the vast majority of their own population they don't GAF about. I'll bet the vents they send to the US are all very good, because politics. And I wouldn't want to be the governor deciding whether or not to accept them. It's a sht situation with no winning decision, unless you can see the future and know if you'll need them and if so how they'll work.
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    Originally Posted by chalup View Post
    China has already sent out faulty equipment and they are making a power play to try and show the world they are the #1 Country in the world now. I have no idea what the alternative is but this isn't good.
    I am sure they'll asses whether the ventilators are good or not and use them accordingly. Jeopardizing your citizens lives for PR supremacy is third world/authoritarian politics. Better to accept the aid now and remember it and be prepared next time.

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    I haven't posted ITT in a while but I think it so fuking funny how quickly the media went from, "Don't wear a mask, it won't help you" to "For the love of god please, make a mask out of whatever household items you have!!"

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    Originally Posted by io31 View Post
    I am sure they'll asses whether the ventilators are good or not and use them accordingly. Jeopardizing your citizens lives for PR supremacy is third world/authoritarian politics. Better to accept the aid now and remember it and be prepared next time.
    Yeah I don't think we need to jeopardize any lives but it's a serious wake up call for the nation. A LOT of hospitals are close to being broke right now because they are only doing essential surgery's and nobody is going to the ER because they don't want to be around people who possibly have the virus. Our nation and life is going to be completely different.
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    We could see 2000-3000 people dying a day just in NY in two weeks. They already have 10,400 infected showing and its only 12.
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    Originally Posted by bov188 View Post
    I haven't posted ITT in a while but I think it so fuking funny how quickly the media went from, "Don't wear a mask, it won't help you" to "For the love of god please, make a mask out of whatever household items you have!!"
    It's not like the media made the decision. The CDC just reversed their stance on masks not being helpful and so they're spreading the word.
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    Originally Posted by GaloisTheory View Post
    It's not like the media made the decision. The CDC just reversed their stance on masks not being helpful and so they're spreading the word.
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    Originally Posted by bov188 View Post
    I haven't posted ITT in a while but I think it so fuking funny how quickly the media went from, "Don't wear a mask, it won't help you" to "For the love of god please, make a mask out of whatever household items you have!!"
    The media is like the majority of the populace...a bunch of idiots who lap up whatever the politicians tell them. Many of us knew damn well from before this started that masks help. That's just...duh. The media, again like most of the populace, refuses to use critical thinking or do their own legit objective research.

    People are sheep, including most of the members of the media.

    Something I hope at least a few people learn from the mask thing is to turn off the ****ing media and re-learn how to think critically

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    Trump said he aint wearing that chit. Like a true G
    When you and everybody around you gets tested regularly and you have literally the secret service disinfecting anything probably five times before it makes it to you...why would you need to wear a mask lol
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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    Speaking of the Spanish flu, I understand that it really started in March, faded a bit over the summer and came back worse the next winter. Even the fast hopes don't have a vaccine out by next season. If it does seasonal.

    Unfortunately there is a good argument to be made for how and why these zoonosis events are becoming more common and the trend will continue/worsen. And overall our ability to travel and transport viruses is only getting better as is our population density and close quarters living
    If you’re interested in a good publication on Spanish influenza origins and virulence, I recommend this. Written (mostly) by my old undergrad professor and advisor. Not terribly dense and jargon is kept to a minimum.

    https://academic.oup.com/emph/article/2019/1/18/5298310

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    buying weights

    guys i have a plug for a barbell and a potential plug for weights but it might take 4 weeks to ship, does anyone know anywhere I can get plates for repetitively cheap?

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    Originally Posted by duncan42 View Post
    guys i have a plug for a barbell and a potential plug for weights but it might take 4 weeks to ship, does anyone know anywhere I can get plates for repetitively cheap?
    Stalk craigslist.

    And expect to pay a premium if you find anything, with gyms closing everybody is trying to set up a home gym right now

    Be aware that you are "buying high" right now, it's a big time seller's market
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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    Stalk craigslist.

    And expect to pay a premium if you find anything, with gyms closing everybody is trying to set up a home gym right now

    Be aware that you are "buying high" right now, it's a big time seller's market
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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    Stalk craigslist.

    And expect to pay a premium if you find anything, with gyms closing everybody is trying to set up a home gym right now

    Be aware that you are "buying high" right now, it's a big time seller's market

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    Farley! How are you??? How are you feeling? How are your grandparents and your uncle?
    3/4 report to have turned the corner and symptoms improving. Grandpa hasn't yet, home blood ox (the fingertip thing) says 98% for grandma but only 93% for him and he isn't breathing the best and feels like ****, but the local docs and health dept that check on their cases (by phone, they live at home) haven't decided to admit them so there's that. One of the threshold they were told, literally, is to hospitalize for, as an example, a fever of 104*. That's crazy high but I guess they don't want non-critical people in any hospitals right now
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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    3/4 report to have turned the corner and symptoms improving. Grandpa hasn't yet, home blood ox (the fingertip thing) says 98% for grandma but only 93% for him and he isn't breathing the best and feels like ****, but the local docs and health dept that check on their cases (by phone, they live at home) haven't decided to admit them so there's that
    Alright- so that's a big plus that they don't need to be admitted! Do the docs recommend anything for the breathing issue? That must be hard!! Is anyone able to check on them?
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    Alright- so that's a big plus that they don't need to be admitted! Do the docs recommend anything for the breathing issue? That must be hard!! Is anyone able to check on them?
    No family members for hundreds of miles. My aunt (good one, different one) has seriously considered driving there for awhile but there's so much risk and not a lot of reward she's been told not to by enough people to listen.

    Hopefully non admittance stays that way. Hydrate and monitor for now it seems

    A ****tier one is my neighbor whose dad is stage 4 cancer up in the NYC area and tested positive and sick and doesn't seem to have a good prognosis, short term. Neighbor is really struggling with not going up for obvious infection risk reasons, also he's a sole proprietor working for himself (in people's homes...) and only house hold income so going and risking infection and quarantining when coming back...it's sht all around
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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    No family members for hundreds of miles. My aunt (good one, different one) has seriously considered driving there for awhile but there's so much risk and not a lot of reward she's been told not to by enough people to listen.

    Hopefully non admittance stays that way. Hydrate and monitor for now it seems

    A ****tier one is my neighbor whose dad is stage 4 cancer up in the NYC area and tested positive and sick and doesn't seem to have a good prognosis, short term. Neighbor is really struggling with not going up for obvious infection risk reasons, also he's a sole proprietor working for himself (in people's homes...) and only house hold income so going and risking infection and quarantining when coming back...it's sht all around
    That's nice of your aunt to be thinking about them, but yes, she has to consider her own health and the risks involved. Don't they have some kind of "visiting nurses" or medical aids or something that can check on them, through insurance? IDK...

    ...The second paragraph: Are you saying YOUR neighbor is infected?
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    Originally Posted by etet1919 View Post
    That's nice of your aunt to be thinking about them, but yes, she has to consider her own health and the risks involved. Don't they have some kind of "visiting nurses" or medical aids or something that can check on them, through insurance? IDK...

    ...The second paragraph: Are you saying YOUR neighbor is infected?
    Neighbor's dad who lives up there is infected, neighbor wants to go see him but probably won't
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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    Neighbor's dad who lives up there is infected, neighbor wants to go see him but probably won't
    Tough decision. I hope his father isn't alone. Not judging though. NYC is not the place to be right now. This just all-around sucks for everyone!! I'll let you get back to your gun slinging bros. Tell your neighbor and your family that we wish them well- the best!! They are all still fighting.
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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    If you are getting groceries delivered, it's not very hard to sanitize the surfaces. You can buy only food that is contained within a sealed package, sanitize the outer, done. Takeout...you have to assume the whole thing is contaminated and possibly the food itself.
    Based on current info, the chances of catching it via eating food is incredibly low?

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