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    Originally Posted by 2RDEYE View Post
    if covid is similar to a cold, and she had a cold at the same time, that could easily lead to death i think. my pneumonia as a kid started as a cold on a rainy day, then when i got home it quickly happened

    i think even covid + allergies would be hell. covid + sinus infection. idk

    80% of people that get covid is mild symptoms. that 20% that gets severe symptoms is still a huge chunk of risk and people

    85% of people recover from concussion/head injury after a week. 90%+ recover after 3 months. others well, recover after years or never recover. and i'm one of the people that didn't recover after 3 months for example of that percentage of risk.

    how many people don't have their "underlying health issues" even diagnosed because they are unaware they even exist?
    blood pressure issues and diabetes often don't show themselves until the symptoms cannot be ignored any more,

    not everybody runs to the doctor for every small discomfort they experience, i haven't been in years and i have issues here and there, when i go it's almost time for hospitalization

    it is not a good idea for anybody to be infected with this virus, even those who feel invincible to it (as i kinda do, because i am not aware of any underlying health issues and have never smoked, not drinking alcohol for 10+ years etc., i do have the worst blood type for it tho)


    and that is not even counting being able to reinfected (if that is true), what if after the first time you survived it but took damage to your lungs, what are your chances the second time?
    you can't let this one run its course and hope for herd immunity, the UK goverment understood this as did the netherlands even if it took them longer than others
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    Anyone heard about this? Apparently in India, doctors used a combination of HIV drugs, Anti-Malaria drugs, and swine flu drugs to "cure" an Italian tourist from coronavirus.
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    Originally Posted by BetaAsPhuck View Post
    A 21 year old with no underlying health conditions died here in the UK...



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJRMEmvMB24
    Possible no underlying conditions were actually found before she died? She may have had a condition that doctors haven't diagnosed yet, no?
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    Originally Posted by Shortfuze View Post
    Anyone heard about this? Apparently in India, doctors used a combination of HIV drugs, Anti-Malaria drugs, and swine flu drugs to "cure" an Italian tourist from coronavirus.
    source: https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...w/74584859.cms
    All those drugs are currently being investigated with more rigorous trials to examine efficacy.

    lol @ oseltamivir (Tamiflu) though. That crap barely works for the flu.
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    Originally Posted by freshnevafrozen View Post
    Possible no underlying conditions were actually found before she died? She may have had a condition that doctors haven't diagnosed yet, no?
    There's going to be anomalies inevitably... And of course, they're going to be blown out of proportion. Now, even healthy people in their 20's will all die if they get COVID-19....
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    Originally Posted by R3L3NTL3SS View Post
    There's going to be anomalies inevitably... And of course, they're going to be blown out of proportion. Now, even healthy people in their 20's will all die if they get COVID-19....
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    No one is safe
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    Originally Posted by BetaAsPhuck View Post
    A 21 year old with no underlying health conditions died here in the UK...



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJRMEmvMB24
    Was she a smoker? Drug user?
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    Originally Posted by A-GAME View Post
    Was she a smoker? Drug user?
    Doesnt have to be an underlying agent for her to die...the virus was too strong for her body..simple and easy
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    Originally Posted by MEDITATE View Post
    Doesnt have to be an underlying agent for her to die...the virus was too strong for her body..simple and easy
    I mean, it isn't really strange. Young people die of the flu as well and I think in a higher percentage than have died from COVID-19 thus far.
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    Originally Posted by MEDITATE View Post
    Doesnt have to be an underlying agent for her to die...the virus was too strong for her body..simple and easy
    i don’t get the constant looking for some type of pre existing condition to help justify the death
    Maybe self comforting?
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    Originally Posted by 5x10 View Post
    i don’t get the constant looking for some type of pre existing condition to help justify the death
    Maybe self comforting?
    It isn't really that comforting anyways. Most people have some kind of underlying issues. Obesity is one and we know how many fat asses are walking around.
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    Originally Posted by R3L3NTL3SS View Post
    There's going to be anomalies inevitably... And of course, they're going to be blown out of proportion. Now, even healthy people in their 20's will all die if they get COVID-19....
    yep. they need to stop reairing that ****ing video of florida beach goers which was from almost 10 days ago when the CDC recommendation at the time was avoiding crowds of 250+. talk about writing the ****ing narrative

    obviously, everyone across all age groups and demographics are able to get the virus. even reasonable to say there are more people who have the virus who have not been tested or won't be reflected in the figures.

    there will be more "healthy" 20-,30- year olds who will probably keel over and die from coronavirus but they will make up the vast minority. there will even probably be infants and children who will die. regardless, they are outliers and the people who will most likely die are those who are older and with comorbidities.
    just avoid close contact and stop going outside frequently if you have health conditions or are old as sin

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    Originally Posted by A-GAME View Post
    Was she a smoker? Drug user?
    Yes she was a heroin junkie and smoked 10-packs a day.

    Got to love the denial in the MIsc. Obviously it is very rare but young ppl can die from this.
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    So... Spain's death toll has already exceeded China's, with a smaller population than Hubei and only a little over half as many cases.

    I'm thinking China might have hidden a few deaths. Shocked, I tell you.
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    Originally Posted by ANumber1 View Post
    So... Spain's death toll has already exceeded China's, with a smaller population than Hubei.

    I'm thinking China might have hidden a few deaths.
    Yes they did and who knows what other type of information they have hidden from us.
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    Originally Posted by dondadas View Post
    how many people don't have their "underlying health issues" even diagnosed because they are unaware they even exist?
    blood pressure issues and diabetes often don't show themselves until the symptoms cannot be ignored any more,

    not everybody runs to the doctor for every small discomfort they experience, i haven't been in years and i have issues here and there, when i go it's almost time for hospitalization

    it is not a good idea for anybody to be infected with this virus, even those who feel invincible to it (as i kinda do, because i am not aware of any underlying health issues and have never smoked, not drinking alcohol for 10+ years etc., i do have the worst blood type for it tho)


    and that is not even counting being able to reinfected (if that is true), what if after the first time you survived it but took damage to your lungs, what are your chances the second time?
    you can't let this one run its course and hope for herd immunity, the UK goverment understood this as did the netherlands even if it took them longer than others
    actually our health officer said yesterday so far it appears that people with mild symptoms who have recovered appear to be immune to getting covid-19 again, for possibly for weeks to a few months

    that's pretty good news, if proven
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    Originally Posted by 5x10 View Post
    i don’t get the constant looking for some type of pre existing condition to help justify the death
    Maybe self comforting?
    I don't get posting one teenager dying as a sign it'll kill many young people. Are you suggesting that 95% of young people aren't asymptotic? Wouldn't the chances of her having an underlying condition be higher than the virus will kill other young people? Why are we even talking about it? How many young kids does cancer kill a day? Car wrecks? ODs? The stupidity of posting that and acting like its some big shadow over all young people now is asinine.
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    We’ll probably hit 1k deaths today. It took longer to go from 10 to 100 deaths, than 100 to 1000.

    Nothing to worry about here folks!

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    Originally Posted by Reliance012 View Post
    We’ll probably hit 1k deaths today. It took longer to go from 10 to 100 deaths, than 100 to 1000.

    Nothing to worry about here folks!
    Just wait for the entire economy to collapse on itself. 1000 deaths is nothing, people die every day from sickness.
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    Originally Posted by chalup View Post
    I don't get posting one teenager dying as a sign it'll kill many young people. Are you suggesting that 95% of young people aren't asymptotic? Wouldn't the chances of her having an underlying condition be higher than the virus will kill other young people? Why are we even talking about it? How many young kids does cancer kill a day? Car wrecks? ODs? The stupidity of posting that and acting like its some big shadow over all young people now is asinine.
    im not suggesting anything

    I’m asking why every death posted is followed by a question of what pre existing condition they had
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    Originally Posted by chalup View Post
    Just wait for the entire economy to collapse on itself. 1000 deaths is nothing, people die every day from sickness.
    Yeah, because the economy wouldn’t collapse if we let this spread uncontrolled anyways.

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    Originally Posted by Reliance012 View Post
    Yeah, because the economy wouldn’t collapse if we let this spread uncontrolled anyways.
    We have taken extreme measures that we can ease up on in a couple of weeks. Lets pray our economy is still intact by then. No idea what Cuomo was thinking nor why the liberal media is hailing him as someone who can run against Trump we he failed is state. 90% of the country, especially the rural areas, didn't need to go on a complete in house shelter. The infected will start going down in 4-5 days. The death rate will take another 14 before it stops progressing. if we do somehow hit 5000 deaths from Cuomo's failure, the amount of suicides is going to go up in an extreme percentage. Why aren't any of you doomsayers talking about that?
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    doubt suicides would go up, homelessness would go up though
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    I find it extremely unlikely deaths will decrease with the half-assed measures that have been taken. cuomo makes it sound like chit is about to hit the fan in NY, although i suspect the rest of the country wont get it as bad as they are. There's around 200 cases in my immediate area but im not too concerned atm

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    well it seems like spain might overtake italy daily deaths by the end of the week, by the end of next week france is gonna be around there, too
    germany starting to ramp up albeit slower


    no way is trump gonna open up the country to business as usual by mid next month

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    Originally Posted by rikugunchusa View Post
    I find it extremely unlikely deaths will decrease with the half-assed measures that have been taken. cuomo makes it sound like chit is about to hit the fan in NY, although i suspect the rest of the country wont get it as bad as they are. There's around 200 cases in my immediate area but im not too concerned atm
    It’s because **** is about to hit the fan in NY. I live in the state and the few ER doctors I know are all saying they are low on PPE and working more shifts than healthy. Mostly bc they’re all still trying to handle all the COVID cases so that 65+ doctors do not have to.
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    Originally Posted by chalup View Post
    No idea what Cuomo was thinking nor why the liberal media is hailing him as someone who can run against Trump we he failed is state. 90% of the country, especially the rural areas, didn't need to go on a complete in house shelter. The infected will start going down in 4-5 days. The death rate will take another 14 before it stops progressing. if we do somehow hit 5000 deaths from Cuomo's failure, the amount of suicides is going to go up in an extreme percentage. Why aren't any of you doomsayers talking about that?
    Fukkin' LOL at blaming this on any state's governor. How are you even drawing a connection to blaming Cuomo for shelter-in-place orders in the rest of the country? New York didn't even go first, and most of the country is not subject to shelter-in-place orders, although polling shows its actually what most people think should be done. I'm not aware of any state that kept five figures of spare ventilators laying around for a once-in-a-century pandemic, although all states and the federal government have been aware of the risk for over a decade.

    I dislike his political style, but once the scale of the problem became apparent to people who weren't looped in the way the President and the Senate Intelligence Committee were, Cuomo has provided solid leadership and his criticisms of the limited federal response are not misguided.

    As for suicides, like I said, look into what actually happened during the Great Depression. There was a spike in suicides, but it wasn't "extreme" and took years to appear. Overall mortality declined because people stopped spending money on chit that got them killed and average life expectancies actually increased by several years. It was a terrible time but that aspect is more urban legend than anything else.

    Originally Posted by rikugunchusa View Post
    There's around 200 cases in my immediate area but im not too concerned atm
    Yeah, I remember feeling like that. Buckle up, just in case.
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